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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Thanks for posting this.
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Michael Jackson's Coroner's Report states:
    The standard of care for administering propofol was not met... Recommended equipment for patient monitoring, precision dosing and resuscitation was not present," ... A blood-pressure cuff and portable pulse oximeter (measures oxygen in the blood) were found in a closet in a room next to Michael Jackson's, the investigator notes. One oxygen canister was present; which was empty.

    You might like to read the full coroner's report for Michael Jackson.
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    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson1.html
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    My concern is that we only have Conrad Murray's version of this relationship. Michael is not here to give his side ...
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by twinklEE View Post
    Michael had no pills in his stomach neither did he ask for pain medication. Maybe you should read the autopsy report and try to go by facts instead of whatever illusions you have in your head. Not even his organs showed signs of long time drug (ab)use, if he had popped as many pills as you claim to know, sure his autopsy report would have showed something else :smilerolleyes::smilerolleyes::smilerolleyes:
    I have just read what you wrote to me in my "Latest Reputation Received".
    "ignorant, mind, Michael never asked for pills"

    I DO NOT tolerate any aggressive behavior against me because I DO NOT treat anybody in here like I have been treated by you!
    Just because I stated MY opinion. I DID NOT mention your name and I DID NOT cause you any harm by stating my opinion!

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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Petals View Post
    I have just read what you wrote to me in my "Latest Reputation Received".
    "ignorant, mind, Michael never asked for pills"

    I DO NOT tolerate any aggressive behavior against me because I DO NOT treat anybody in here like I have been treated by you!
    Just because I stated MY opinion. I DID NOT mention your name and I DID NOT cause you any harm by stating my opinion!

    I ask for respect!

    I have reported you and I have contacted the president of this forum.

    Thank you.
    You Go Girl!! Enough of this attacking people for simply having a differing opinion than someone elses.
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Can we not have any threads that don't resort to these petty attacks? It's really getting boring.
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    This place is really going in circles isn't it All these personal attacks don't do anyone any good. It alienates fans for having thoughts of their own. Michael wouldn't have liked this at all.

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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Beachlover View Post
    You Go Girl!! Enough of this attacking people for simply having a differing opinion than someone elses.
    Yeah attacking people is useless and unnecessary.
    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by StaceyMJ View Post
    Can we not have any threads that don't resort to these petty attacks? It's really getting boring.
    I know it's boring and unnecessary. I apologize. But like I said b4, I dont tolerate aggressive comments towards me for simply stating my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by thrillerchild View Post
    This place is really going in circles isn't it All these personal attacks don't do anyone any good. It alienates fans for having thoughts of their own. Michael wouldn't have liked this at all.
    I know right! :-\

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    My concern is that we only have Conrad Murray's version of this relationship. Michael is not here to give his side ...
    Well that's the trouble, everyone is here to give their side expect michael but there is nothing we can do about that.
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Hmmmmmmmm........well, I understand where the writer og this article is coming from. And what he say is true, people are often trying to find anything that can work and help if they are desperate. And when doctors tell them that something is imposible or require something else then a pill or surgery to fix the problem that is not welcomed. But in this case i do think that the situation had some extraordinary elements. And that is the fact that people with integrity is hard to find when the possibility of earning a lotof money is present. That is kind of a paradox, but combine that with a person who has some real health problems and there is potential for disaster. However, in this case there are also so many unexplainable things that I will not simply accept that this was an "accident" or an unfortunate combination of a patient in need and a all to willing doctor bending the rules and any form of common sense in terms of treatment.

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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    The article is just so true!
    Thanks for posting it!

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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by Petals View Post
    yes! that's what I'm talking about. sleeping pills.

    sometimes he was "grog" he would sign gifts and give them back to the fans instead of taking the gifts.

    it hurts me that those people who worked with him did nothing.

    by the way, I'm not here to fight. I'm here to discuss things with mature people. :sigh:
    We know that Michael had huge problems to sleep.
    It seemed quite common he had sleepless nights, maybe sometimes he didn´t sleep for two nights in a row and of course you get very tired and stressed when you´re not able to sleep.
    You do mistakes, like signing gifts and give them back.
    More accidents happens because people are tired then because they have taken drugs.
    It´s also used as torture, not letting people sleep.

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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    pleeasee..if people want to avoid fighting, then make sure your posts STRESS that you are giving ONLY your personal opinion, because that's what it is. posting threads like this do scare me.

    i mean, people are leaving out some statements that he made, such as he was a nightowl because of his creativity, and even Janet Jackson said that he was a nightowl, when they did Scream. nothing, in those statements spoke of insomnia...just creativity. so..we are left with our OPINIONS.
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    Default Re: Was Michael Jackson Part of the Cause and the Victim of a Doctor-Patient Relationship

    Quote Originally Posted by nena View Post
    Well that's the trouble, everyone is here to give their side expect michael but there is nothing we can do about that.
    exactlyyyy
    In Love of Money Land(Branca,sony,mainstream media), it's always a pride and snowy day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petals View Post
    i have just read what you wrote to me in my "latest reputation received".
    "ignorant, mind, michael never asked for pills"

    i do not tolerate any aggressive behavior against me because i do not treat anybody in here like i have been treated by you!
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