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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankyboy5 View Post
    It may seem like HTW was rehearsed but it's sounds like playback that has been downpitched. It could simply be a remix with live band instrumental.
    It was rehearsed as I remeber: somebody even put an amateur audio recording on the forum

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    June 22 : Michael & the TII team resume the rehearsals at the Staples Center in L.A.

    June 23 : Michael's rehearsals at the Staples Centers are filmed.

    June 24 : Michael rehearses for the last time at the Staples Center.
    http://mjjtimeline.over-blog.com/article-26529471.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankyboy5 View Post
    I've been wondering what day songs were rehearsed.

    So far I have come up with this:

    Unknown Rehearsal #1 SUNGLASSES WITH RED TROUSERS, LIGHT BLUE SHIRT INSIDE - WBSS, Speechless, Human Nature, Smooth Criminal, TWYMMF.

    Unknown Rehearsal #2 BLUE SHIRT WITH SILVER PATTERNING - Billie Jean, MITM. However, Kenny Ortega tells everyone to "have a good Sunday." So it could have been on the 21st, but that's Father's day, so maybe the 20th... Black or White was mentioned to have been done a soundcheck.

    Unknown Rehearsal #3 RED SHIRT with funny shoulders jacket - Human Nature, IJCSLY, Thriller, Beat It (without silver jacket).

    Unknown Rehearsal #4 SPARKLY GOLDEN PANTS and Fedora: WBSS (break), Human Nature, Jackson 5 Medley, Ending of I'll Be There (saying brothers' names), and Smooth Criminal.

    Unknown Rehearsal #5 Golden Rainbow Shirt - I'll Be There, IJCSLY, Will You Be There (briefly shown on bonus; audio heard)

    June 22 - Only Dancers Rehearsal

    June 23 RED SHIRT 777 - WBSS, TDCAU, JAM, Human Nature, Smooth Criminal (Wears original SC uniform over top of red shirt), TWYMMF (end with Blue Jacket) J5 Medley, Shake Your Body, Beat It (scenes with the Silver Jacket), BoW. These are identifiable by the red shirt with 777 on the side and Orianthi's wearing the sparkling boots, and some camera angles are in SD.

    June 24 - Dangerous, Earth Song and Thriller - Also has SD scenes.

    Does anyone know the unknown dates, I only know they're the same rehearsal dates.
    This is (in my opinion) the order in which the rehearsals took place:

    -The earliest rehearsal at The Forum which was shown is most likely the one where Michael is wearing the black shirt with the silver patterning (identical to the one he wore at the O2 press conference on March 5th 2009 and at Culver Studios on June 4th.)
    You can see that this is an early rehearsal because they didn't even start building the big LED screen in the back and because ''The Way You Make Me Feel'' was rehearsed with Tyne Stecklein (the blonde girl) instead of Mekia Cox.


    -The next one would be the one where Michael is wearing the ''funny shoulders jacket'' and the red shirt.
    Again, the LED screen was not built yet and according to Judith Hill that performance of 'I Just Can't Stop Loving You' was the very first time they performed it together.


    -Then comes the rehearsal where MJ is wearing the blue jacket with silver patterning.
    At this point, the team had started work on the LED screen but it wasn't fully ready yet. The performance of 'Billie Jean' from this day is (again according to Judith Hill) the first time Michael ever rehearsed it in front of them. Another thing that indicates that this is an early rehearsal is that Michael holds a little speech at the end and tells the band and the dancers to ''give their all''.
    At the end Kenny Ortega wishes everybody a ''happy Sunday'' - This means that this rehearsal took place on a Saturday or on a Sunday.
    The only dates on which it could have taken place are June 6th, June 7th, June 13th or June 14th.
    My guess is that the date is probably June 7th.


    -The fourth rehearsal is the one where Michael is wearing the sparkly gold pants.
    This time, the LED screen is ready.
    However, Michael has to tell the band how to play the 'Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'' intro and 'The Way You Make Me Feel' was (again) rehearsed with Tyne Stecklein. These are all indications that this rehearsal took place in the first two weeks of June 2009.


    -Then, the infamous orange pants rehearsal.
    Band is on point. LED screen is ready. Mekia Cox is the TWYMMF girl..... definitely a later rehearsal at The Forum.

    -The last rehearsal at The Forum which was shown in the movie is the rainbow jacket rehearsal.
    The rainbow jacket is the jacket that Michael was supposed to wear in IJSCLY during the actual show.
    Also, when he explains to Orianthi how to play her solo, he is wearing the 'Black Or White' shirt that he would have also worn in the show if he didn't like the jacket Zaldy made for him.
    To me, the fact that MJ is wearing the final outfits is an indication that this is a later rehearsal.

    -June 23rd


    -June 24th


    If anybody knows the exact dates on which some of the rehearsals at The Forum took place, please let me know. Also, tell me if I missed any rehearsals.
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    The video description says that the date is june 3rd.

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    @dethorro

    Which rehearsal is this one? (TDCAU)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
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    Which rehearsal is this one? (TDCAU)

    That's June 23rd.
    Pretty much all of the footage from TII in which MJ isn't wearing sunglasses is June 23rd apart from 'Earth Song' and 'Thriller (which are from June 24th).
    You can see that on those 2 days at the Staples Center, they finally used the LED screen and also tested the 3D short films which were done at Culver Studios from June 1st to June 11th.
    On June 23rd though, there was a small portion in the screen that wasn't working (where the door was going to be) however, by June 24th they had fixed it and the screen was finally completely ready.

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    Date Chuckie got his hair cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dethorro View Post
    This is (in my opinion) the order in which the rehearsals took place:

    -The earliest rehearsal at The Forum which was shown is most likely the one where Michael is wearing the black shirt with the silver patterning (identical to the one he wore at the O2 press conference on March 5th 2009 and at Culver Studios on June 4th.)
    You can see that this is an early rehearsal because they didn't even start building the big LED screen in the back and because ''The Way You Make Me Feel'' was rehearsed with Tyne Stecklein (the blonde girl) instead of Mekia Cox.


    -The next one would be the one where Michael is wearing the ''funny shoulders jacket'' and the red shirt.
    Again, the LED screen was not built yet and according to Judith Hill that performance of 'I Just Can't Stop Loving You' was the very first time they performed it together.


    -Then comes the rehearsal where MJ is wearing the blue jacket with silver patterning.
    At this point, the team had started work on the LED screen but it wasn't fully ready yet. The performance of 'Billie Jean' from this day is (again according to Judith Hill) the first time Michael ever rehearsed it in front of them. Another thing that indicates that this is an early rehearsal is that Michael holds a little speech at the end and tells the band and the dancers to ''give their all''.
    At the end Kenny Ortega wishes everybody a ''happy Sunday'' - This means that this rehearsal took place on a Saturday or on a Sunday.
    The only dates on which it could have taken place are June 6th, June 7th, June 13th or June 14th.
    My guess is that the date is probably June 7th.


    -The fourth rehearsal is the one where Michael is wearing the sparkly gold pants.
    This time, the LED screen is ready.
    However, Michael has to tell the band how to play the 'Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'' intro and 'The Way You Make Me Feel' was (again) rehearsed with Tyne Stecklein. These are all indications that this rehearsal took place in the first two weeks of June 2009.


    -Then, the infamous orange pants rehearsal.
    Band is on point. LED screen is ready. Mekia Cox is the TWYMMF girl..... definitely a later rehearsal at The Forum.

    -The last rehearsal at The Forum which was shown in the movie is the rainbow jacket rehearsal.
    The rainbow jacket is the jacket that Michael was supposed to wear in IJSCLY during the actual show.
    Also, when he explains to Orianthi how to play her solo, he is wearing the 'Black Or White' shirt that he would have also worn in the show if he didn't like the jacket Zaldy made for him.
    To me, the fact that MJ is wearing the final outfits is an indication that this is a later rehearsal.

    -June 23rd


    -June 24th



    If anybody knows the exact dates on which some of the rehearsals at The Forum took place, please let me know. Also, tell me if I missed any rehearsals.
    Michael Jackson did not rehearse at all on June 13th, 2009.

    As confirmed also by Travis Payne's e-mails that were presented during the Dr. Conrad Murray’s trial in 2011, on that day there was a planned rehearsal for Michael Jackson but he took a doctor’s ordered sick day.

    That cancellation of his planned rehearsals was something that greatly alarmed the ‘This Is It’ team, in particular Kenny Ortega.

    The ‘Billie Jean’ rehearsal with the blue jacket with silver patterning (in the ‘This Is It’ film) took place at the Forum on June 6th, 2009.

    Also, on June 19th, there was another planned rehearsal day for Michael Jackson that eventually was cancelled because he collapsed while stepping onto the stage.

    They helped him to stand up on his two feet and they put him on a chair to just watch the backup dancers’ rehearsals, but after some time he was feeling so unwell that he left for home.

    Also, according to reliable accounts, Michael Jackson rehearsed very little during the first two weeks of June (his very few rehearsals took place only at Culver Studios and at The Forum).

    The biggest part of the ‘This Is It’ footage in general comes from the last two days (23-24 June) when he rehearsed extensively and nearly fifteen songs in these two days (but not the ‘Dirty Diana’ song which was planned to be rehearsed for the day that he died).

    He rehearsed extensively in these two last days because they increased the dosages of drugs that they gave him which in turn began to have a far more stimulant effect on his on-stage moves and dancing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Michael Jackson did not rehearse at all on June 13th, 2009.

    As confirmed also by Travis Payne's e-mails that were presented during the Dr. Conrad Murray’s trial in 2011, on that day there was a planned rehearsal for Michael Jackson but he took a doctor’s ordered sick day.

    That cancellation of his planned rehearsals was something that greatly alarmed the ‘This Is It’ team, in particular Kenny Ortega.

    The ‘Billie Jean’ rehearsal with the blue jacket with silver patterning (in the ‘This Is It’ film) took place at the Forum on June 6th, 2009.

    Also, on June 19th, there was another planned rehearsal day for Michael Jackson that eventually was cancelled because he collapsed while stepping onto the stage.

    They helped him to stand up on his two feet and they put him on a chair to just watch the backup dancers’ rehearsals, but after some time he was feeling so unwell that he left for home.

    Also, according to reliable accounts, Michael Jackson rehearsed very little during the first two weeks of June (his very few rehearsals took place only at Culver Studios and at The Forum).

    The biggest part of the ‘This Is It’ footage in general comes from the last two days (23-24 June) when he rehearsed extensively and nearly fifteen songs in these two days (but not the ‘Dirty Diana’ song which was planned to be rehearsed for the day that he died).

    He rehearsed extensively in these two last days because they increased the dosages of drugs that they gave him which in turn began to have a far more stimulant effect on his on-stage moves and dancing.
    Alright, so that rehearsal is June 6th....thanks for the info!

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    The reason why TII film does not show dates is because it is not all within the dates advertised. There is a large amount of footage that was from The Forum, where Michael rehearsed many songs that did not make TII. You Are Not Alone, Dangerous, Will You Be There, Dirty Diana, Stranger In Moscow, Heal The World etc.

    What was live and playback is up for debate... The timelines we see online are not fully accurate. He was at rehearsal for several hours a night, and for the ambiguous 'what happened on June 18th' - did he or did he not go to rehearsal... He did! 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    The reason why TII film does not show dates is because it is not all within the dates advertised. There is a large amount of footage that was from The Forum, where Michael rehearsed many songs that did not make TII. You Are Not Alone, Dangerous, Will You Be There, Dirty Diana, Stranger In Moscow, Heal The World etc.

    What was live and playback is up for debate... The timelines we see online are not fully accurate. He was at rehearsal for several hours a night, and for the ambiguous 'what happened on June 18th' - did he or did he not go to rehearsal... He did! 100%
    Yeah...all of these songs were rehearsed at The Forum for sure. They were even rehearsed by the band as early as late May at Center Staging (I don't think Michael rehearsed with them at this point, although he was there to ''guide'' them).
    I don't understand what you mean by ''What happened on June 18th''. I guess you meant June 19th
    There wasn't any debate on whether he attended rehearsals on that day, actually. He left early because he wasn't feeling well.
    Kenny had to give him a blanket because he had chills and he watched the rehearsals for the rest of the evening.
    (Btw the photos where Michael is wearing some of the outfits made by Zaldy are from June 19th.)

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    ^ There has been constant debate about if MJ went to rehersal after being read the riot act or not. In court they first said he did not show, than it evolved to showed up late. At times is still spoken about like he did not go!

    Considering it was his last days, it's important to have the details precise..
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