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    Default Re: Why is Latoya jackson Hugging Victor Gutierrez

    This is a guy who thanked NAMBLA in the preface of his disgusting book. Even if you don't particularly care for Michael Jackson, that alone should be enough to make you despise Gutierrez. I mean, seriously, who the f--k does that?

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    Latoya will do anything for the mighty $.what sort of sicko would talk to him. unless of course she was never forced to say anything by jack
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    Default Re: Why is Latoya jackson Hugging Victor Gutierrez

    LaToya hangs out with Victor Gutierrez, Rebbie with Stacy Brown - with a family like this who needs enemies? No wonder Michael distanced himself from his family.

    Victor Gutierrez was very instrumental in the allegations against Michael. There is suspicion that he may even have been their initiator. His book is not only slanderous of Michael, but it's actaually pedophile propaganda. The book was banned in the US because its content is basically child porn in a written form. It contains very graphic descriptions of sex between a child and a man, which the author apparently approves of and describes as a legitimate romance... Mind you, all that came from Gutierrez's own mind, since even the Chandlers denied Jordan ever having a diary. However Gutierrez knew the Chandlers and initially he probably collaborated with them and then they had a falling out. In an interview in 2005 with the German newspaper, Die Tageszeitung, Gutierrez advocates pedophilia! (Tageszeitung has a very questionable history in advocating for pedophilia, so no wonder Gutierrez was so open with them...) Also in his book in the credits he thanks NAMBLA!

    Here you can read about what he said in that 2005 interview with Die Tageszeitung: http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/201...-a-big-p-plan/

    Gutierrez started his mission for NAMBLA to make Michael their poster boy in 1986 and he talked to parents of kids who hung out with Michael and many employees of Michael, whispering things in their ears. It's known, for example, that he approached Wade Robson's mom before he approached the Chandlers, telling her stories about Michael being a pedophile. Of course, Joy Robson knew it was BS and reported it to Michael's people (this story is in Jermaine's book). But Michael at the time probably didn't realize what a threat this guy was. Gutierrez eventually met with Evan Chandler and he found his man in this sick, bi-polar person. The rest is history.

    Many of the prosecutions stories in 2005 came directly from Gutierrez's book. Many of their "witnesses" had contact with Gutierrez. For example the Neverland 5 consulted with him before going to the press (Ralph Chacon admits it in his testimony), the Chandlers were in contact with him, the Francias were in contact with him... So this guy pulled LOTS of strings from behind the scenes and his agenda should be clear to anybody who has read his opinion on pedophilia (see the link above)...

    He was also involved in making slanderous "documentaries" about Michael for TV channels, such as NBC. Apparently those TV channels weren't bothered by the fact that previously Gutierrez was convicted for lying about Michael.

    In an interview (I think it was his interview with GQ in 2006) he even claimed to have consulted Bashir before Bashir made his "documentary"...

    So this guy may be the single most significant player in the allegations against Michael, with a very sinister agenda, and LaToya hugs him. Congratulations...

    And it's not a good excuse that she didn't know all this. If Michael was my brother surely I would want to know everything about the allegations against him, research the facts to be able to defend him effectively, but Michael's family obviously doesn't give a d*mn about that. So sad.
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    Default Re: Why is Latoya jackson Huging Victor Gutierrez

    Quote Originally Posted by qbee View Post
    She knew
    It is posted above in the article above - about the Interview. Victor say he didnt think Latoya would even agree to the interview with him but finally they talked her into it. ( How probably $$$) He also said he knows MJ's bothers would never agree. Then adds that although he agrees with Latoya that MJ was murdered he still thinks he was a P***

    If she knew, then all those things that i think about her, which i will not post because i will get banned, are justified. I will say that she the lowest of the low though and that i don't think for a second that her husband made her say those things about MJ.




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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Also in his book in the credits he thanks NAMBLA!
    Yeah that's what I said in my previous post--the guy is obviously pro-pedophilia. That alone should make him abhorrent to the majority of the world... What are they thinking?

    His book was banned in some places for its lewdness, yes. It all obviously came from his head, also. Sick.

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    Default Re: LaToya with one of MJ's biggest haters: Victor Gutierrez :O

    The book by VG MJ was my lover is still around being sold by people at places like amazon and ebay! And also on amazon is that other book called Dangerous Liasons by a convicted pedo using MJ for his sick agenda too.


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    Default Re: LaToya with one of MJ's biggest haters: Victor Gutierrez :O

    Only from private sellers with high prices. They are not published anymore.

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    Default Re: LaToya with one of MJ's biggest haters: Victor Gutierrez :O

    ^True but should Amazon and Ebay let people sell things like that on their sites? Especailly by a convicted pedo! To me it's them condoning this ish!


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    The book by VG MJ was my lover is still around being sold by people at places like amazon and ebay! And also on amazon is that other book called Dangerous Liasons by a convicted pedo using MJ for his sick agenda too.
    I find it ludicrous that ppl are willing to buy books made from pedo's or sick minded ppl like victor. Yet there was michael who was found NOT GUILTY of molestation charges but ppl are willing to help victor & real pedo's make money from their disgusting lies-the world has seriouslx become mad!

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    Default Re: LaToya with one of MJ's biggest haters: Victor Gutierrez :O

    Hi, PCR, Are you still in Chile? Can you tell me some more stuff about VG's activities there? Thanks. Do you know where he lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbee View Post
    I dont think it was Jermaines son - What makes you say that ?
    It was one of Jermaine's sons (Jeremy?) with Margaret Maldonado. She talks about this incident in her book Jackson Family Values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severus Snape View Post
    This is a guy who thanked NAMBLA in the preface of his disgusting book. Even if you don't particularly care for Michael Jackson, that alone should be enough to make you despise Gutierrez. I mean, seriously, who the f--k does that?
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Guiterrez and Diane Dimond are both the true masterminds behind "Leaving Neverland" as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisTimeAround96 View Post
    Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Guiterrez and Diane Dimond are both the true masterminds behind "Leaving Neverland" as well.
    Diane was suspiciously silent when Leaving Neverland hit at first.

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    Default Re: LaToya with one of MJ's biggest haters: Victor Gutierrez :O

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    Diane was suspiciously silent when Leaving Neverland hit at first.
    Yeah cause she was insteaed buysy to cut her australian TV show with the friend of Dan Reed with Jocobshagen and Murray and which was shown only after the LN but was already finished and planned month ago.

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