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    Default Re: Breaking News - The Great Debate

    So are you saying, that in every instance where one song shares a sequence of notes with another song, that's down to influence (i.e. there are no coincidences)?

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    Default Re: Breaking News - The Great Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    I was partially right !

    A musican just told me :

    Best of Joy

    si b , la b, sol fa , fa fa fa fa sol mib mib,
    mib fa sol laaaab sib sol fa mib

    breaking news :

    sol sol la sib la sol fa re do re

    So 4 consecutiv notes are the same !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Hi Ioka

    I think you could find that particular sequence in an awful lot of songs. To test this, I set iTunes to shuffle and got:

    Just Good Friends - "She's getting to you" (0:38)

    Next, "There Must Be More To Life Than This" (0:05)

    Next, Hand in My Pocket (Alanis Morissette) - "I'm poor but I'm kind" (0:13)

    Those were the first three random songs that came up. There are only 12 notes in music. There are only so many sequences that sound good together and they are repeated all of the time. As others have said, four consecutive notes are not enough to prove anything. You would really need a full line and even then, it could be total coincidence, based on the chord structure of the song, the note you choose to start and end with, etc. (The start of Breaking News sound exactly like Britney Spears / Bobby Brown's song My Perogative. It even begins with the same word, exact same melody, "Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson"/"Everybody talking all this stuff about me" )
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    Default Re: Breaking News - The Great Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    it's more serious than your 'snort' story...

    ps : as i said : there are 2 "snorts" in BN and and it's a keyboard sound put into the instrumental loop. It even doesn't appear in a moment where the singer needs to breathe.
    Why does it have to be "serious"? It's true and funny. You can't deny it. There is instrument doing that sound on Breaking News or Critical, lol. It's a mistake he does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mundy View Post
    Hi Ioka
    (The start of Breaking News sound exactly like Britney Spears / Bobby Brown's song My Perogative. It even begins with the same word, exact same melody, "Everybody wanting a piece of Michael Jackson"/"Everybody talking all this stuff about me" )
    believe me...being a New Jack swing fan since 1988 I noticed this as soon as I heard it.

    I talked about it on MJFRANCE as soon as "BN" was leaked

    I can aslo tell you that "what ever happens" contains same background vocals from "on my own" by Bobby Brown

    some elements of Billie Jean are coming ffrom "bullshit" from Grace Jones too

    there so many examples like that...

    -come back to the topic :

    4 consecutives notes are similar in 2 MJ songs...Not a coincidence IMO.

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    So Malachi said "don't you in one of his song ?

    songs where MJ is singing the words "don't you" :

    JAM !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaEssrU1r1Q

    Monkey business (all my tender on you, so don't you stuck no stuff in me)
    Unbreakable
    who is it
    2 bad
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuD8Uj5OsM

    leave me alone
    beat it
    smooth criminal
    they don't care about us (don't you black or white me)
    what ever happens
    leave me alone (don't you come walkin back mama)
    Last edited by loka; 08-01-2011 at 07:35 PM.

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    Default Re: Breaking News - The Great Debate

    Regardless of the quite unbelievable claim that 4 consecutive notes cannot be coincidental, I'm not sure what it would actually mean if true (and that's a BIG if). It would signify involvement in the song, but wouldn't give any further clarity of who is singing lead vocals, which is the primary issue here. A red herring, and not particularly worth debating IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kopwatcher View Post
    Regardless of the quite unbelievable claim that 4 consecutive notes cannot be coincidental, I'm not sure what it would actually mean if true (and that's a BIG if). It would signify involvement in the song, but wouldn't give any further clarity of who is singing lead vocals, which is the primary issue here. A red herring, and not particularly worth debating IMO.
    it could mean that MJ knew BN and even sung some part of it...

    My theory :

    yes MJ sung into these songs but they were not finished like always with MJ who rarely finished a song in even 3 months...

    so they called an impersonnator to fill the Blanks in order to give them to the Estate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    it could mean that MJ knew BN and even sung some part of it...
    It would suggest the first part, but in no way whatsoever suggest the second part. But it's irrelevant anyway as there's no way of knowing if it's a coincidence or not.
    Last edited by kopwatcher; 08-01-2011 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    So Malachi said "don't you in one of his song ?

    songs where MJ is singing the words "don't you" :

    JAM !
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaEssrU1r1Q

    Monkey business (all my tender on you, so don't you stuck no stuff in me)
    Unbreakable
    who is it
    2 bad
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuD8Uj5OsM

    leave me alone
    beat it
    smooth criminal
    they don't care about us (don't you black or white me)
    what ever happens
    leave me alone (don't you come walkin back mama)
    LOL, that means Malachi IS Michael Jackson or the other way!!!!!! You know, since Malachi knew that MJ has songs that contain "don't you", you know? Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentum View Post
    LOL, that means Malachi IS Michael Jackson or the other way!!!!!! You know, since Malachi knew that MJ has songs that contain "don't you", you know? Right?
    did you try tu be funny ?

    lol

    ok,

    let's think about my theory

    Mj started to work on BN and Monster and they finsihed it...with Malachi, Porte or someone else.

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    to pentum

    listen this acapella of BN

    you will hear full of "snorts" which are not "snorts" but rather noises

    proof that the material was awfull...it was probably not made in the Hit Factory to say the least.

    The Malachi songs have better acapellas...

    this would proove that BN is not so fake.

    it could even contains some MJ vocals...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyjn9qKCUL0
    Last edited by loka; 08-01-2011 at 10:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loka View Post
    to pentum

    listen this acapella of BN

    you will hear full of "snorts" which are not "snorts" but rather noises

    proof that the material was awfull...it was probably not made in the Hit Factory to say the least.

    The Malachi songs have better acapellas...

    this would proove that BN is not so fake.

    it could even contains some MJ vocals...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyjn9qKCUL0
    The fact that you have to go all the way to obtain proof to support Michael's involvement in the Cascio tracks is alarming. Because, until now, there is absolutely no solid proof out there.

    After 12 songs recorded in the Cascio recording sessions, there was no trace of Michael's create input left.

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    The fact the singer says 'don't you' is not proof that it's Michael. All Malachi has to do is hear Michael Jackson do it and then copy him, how is that proof? It doesn't even sound like a very MJ 'don't you' to me anyway.
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    Default Re: Breaking News - The Great Debate (Cascio Controversy Thread)

    It has been ten days since the last reply in this thread,

    I also feel we have exhausted all there can be with regard to BN.

    This Thread is now closed.

    Please take your remaining discussion to the threads that are still open for debate.

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