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    If I listen to KYHU, then MTS or Best of Joy, I'd be fooling myself to believe it's the same person....I never once thought KYHU sounded anything like the Mike I hear in his other ballads....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosje View Post
    This was mentioned before and I tried to hear it, but honestly only with very much effort I can hear a slight difference, and I really really have to look hard for it. If I would dissect a song like Hollywood Tonight in the same manner I would have to assume it was fake as well. Which leads me to believe we are driving each other crazy here and eventually you will hear what the fake consensus would want you to believe. Also I wonder, isn't it possible to play around with your habitual vibrato and change it up a little bit for a particular sound or song? Just wondering...
    non-fans thinks Hollywood Tonight and Best of Joy are fake, so there we are. Non-fans don't know which songs are supposedly fake, so they go look for it, and since they have to find it, they pick whatever of all the ten songs. Crazy times =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mariemarie View Post
    non-fans thinks Hollywood Tonight and Best of Joy are fake, so there we are. Non-fans don't know which songs are supposedly fake, so they go look for it, and since they have to find it, they pick whatever of all the ten songs. Crazy times =)
    Indeed. The fact that people randomly assume the wrong tracks to fake does show that one starts hearing stuff when told beforehand that the songs are fishy. Also it could be an indication that the reason songs are misheard as not Michael's in the first place is not them being all fakes, but just simply overproduction, which has happened to more tracks than just the controversial three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosje View Post
    This was mentioned before and I tried to hear it, but honestly only with very much effort I can hear a slight difference, and I really really have to look hard for it. If I would dissect a song like Hollywood Tonight in the same manner I would have to assume it was fake as well. Which leads me to believe we are driving each other crazy here and eventually you will hear what the fake consensus would want you to believe. Also I wonder, isn't it possible to play around with your habitual vibrato and change it up a little bit for a particular sound or song? Just wondering...
    But why would they change the vibrato if they had a perfect one, such as Mike's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj4ever23 View Post
    But why would they change the vibrato if they had a perfect one, such as Mike's?
    Exactly...and ultimately making it sound WORSE and FORCED


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj4ever23 View Post
    But why would they change the vibrato if they had a perfect one, such as Mike's?
    Well, we don't know if 'they' changed it, or maybe Michael himself. I'm no musical expert but this is what Wiki says about the use of vibrato in pop music:

    In pop
    In pop music, the effect is heard in some singers. In the case of some pop balladists, the vibrato can be so wide as to constitute a pronounced wobble, although not as pronounced as that present in some badly trained or over-worked operatic voices. Many singers use the vocoder in which the effect can be reduced or eliminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roosje View Post
    Many singers use the vocoder in which the effect can be reduced or eliminated.
    Or a PVC tube... don't forget the tube...

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    ^I was quoting Wikipedia, not Sony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJJC News View Post
    This thread is created purely for those who wish to discuss the authenticity of the song "Keep Your Head Up"

    The will be no talk of those who believe this is Michael and support this song.

    Lets dissect analyse and make our feelings and concerns known - In a respectful manner of course,

    If you do not agree with those wish to discuss in this manner then please do not come here to read and respond.
    How can you make a thread titled the great debate and then say people who are on the opposite side of the argument are not allowed to post in here?

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    3/4 of this song is painful to listen to.

    The vocals sound totally out of tune with the music to me, as well as the forced vibrato at the end of EVERY SINGLE line.

    I do doubt this song most out of the 3 Cascio tracks. The only Cascio track I doubt more is All I Need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mj4ever23 View Post
    But why would they change the vibrato if they had a perfect one, such as Mike's?
    I think Teddy (don't quote me on that :p ) mentioned that he 'needed' to speed up Michael's vocals (and autotune them :/ ).. which caused the vibrato to sound creepy like it does.

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    I have proof that this track is all MJ

    But to keep it simple....Listen right now to the Chorus ONLY

    If you can't hear MJ right there, than you were never a MJ fan

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    BabyBeMine, do you not realize these 3 threads are not a debate about real vs. fake? They're here ONLY for the people who believe the tracks are not 100% MJ. Why do you keep posting in all of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJJC News View Post

    The will be no talk of those who believe this is Michael and support this song.
    I think the title of these threads needs to be more clear. It seems to be attracting people who want to debate people of the other opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhabib View Post
    This doesn't make you raise your eyebrows?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCm5aUbaQwE
    Yeah those two are definitely the same singer... and they are both MICHAEL JACKSON, All I Need is an MJ track that leaked with Blue Gangsta, as i have always said, people hear what they wanna hear, if you go in with a pre-conceived notion your going to cloud your own judgment.

    There is only one word for this post... FAIL


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