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  1. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    The 'blacklash' is mostly media created. If we got by sells, Michael is actually selling more as a form of support for him.
  2. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I have news update on my phone, and outside of the first day, NL isn't mentioned and it isn't mentioned on MSNBC or CNN who is too busy covering Trump. So it isn't 'everywhere'. And Barbara's comments would have been covered since her point was both disturbing and disgusting no matter which side...
  3. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Actually it isn't. If I didn't visit this site or my Twitter feed, I wouldn't hear about NL since it first aired outside of TMZ, which I never watched. My mom does and she doesn't even mentions it.
  4. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    The different is that Michael was accused several times in the past and one of them went to trial (even though it shouldn't). Compared to Lee who had no such record being accused. That and Stan, RIP, was white while Michael was black.
  5. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I find it more strange that fans think that the Estate is just copying and pasting stuff the fans dug up when they're the ones who fought the court case for several years and did the discovery. I mean, it wasn't the fans who found all those emails like Wade shopping a book or got Wade's mom on...
  6. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    On a private site like ResetEra, you don't have Freedom of Speech. It's what the owners allow.
  7. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Most of his statements comes from that trash book that is pedo porn. However, the way Safechucks seems obsess with Michael in his own story, how he 'teaches' Michael stuff, and how their relationship comes off as a love story more than Wade's is a strange.
  8. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    You know, I always found Wade' methodical and to the point when he makes his claims. He honestly always sound like a robot. Safechuck, however, always comes off as if he's the one who had a crush on Michael and he's admits to being obsessed with him. It's almost boards on he wanted him and...
  9. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I don't remember anyone mocking him except on here.
  10. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I honestly never saw any victim think what was happening to them was the bolded. Most think it's 'normal' until they get older, and then the trauma set in. But almost none of them would call the experience 'loving' unless they were heavily brainwash and that usually happens to those who were...
  11. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I wished this site have a different name. I would inked everyone to their site when Michael's innocent is questionable since they put all the information in one place, but everyone thinks it a pro-Michael site and therefore bias because of the name.
  12. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    This guy is a real comic book character.
  13. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I do agree it's mostly the media being anti-Michael and even then it's only certain media outlets since I haven't heard anything from MSNBC about this doc at all and CNN talked about it a little after it aired and then never mentioned it again. Even then, there have been some outlets like Wendy...
  14. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    An old member here, very active when I was around. I also think they posted on the KOP forum too.
  15. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Twitter for Ivy and TSCM, although Ivy doesn't Twitter that often. That's how I kept up with MJ news for years without coming here.
  16. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Unless you have a box, you can't give ratings to anything.
  17. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    I think this is the most important part: Robson filed a $1.5 billion civil lawsuit/creditor’s claim in 2013. He first filed it under seal (a procedure allowing sensitive or confidential information to be filed with a court without becoming a matter of public record), in the hope of...
  18. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Maybe he's saying all of Michael's song were all for grooming. Like mass hypnotism.
  19. Ramona122003

    Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Read this on my Twitter Feed: @loakim45: 'The Simpsons' Showrunner Thinks That Michael Jackson Used His Episode 'To Groom Boys' https://t.co/3vzH8WH79k Yeah, my mind actually blanked reading the title and his reasons make even less sense when you read the full answer.
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