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  1. Square One - Documentary about the '93 allegations

    Calm, factual, and rational. Well done. And it’s creepy all over again how similar Dan Reed’s claim of a “love” relationship is to Victor Gutierrez’s words.
  2. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Even apart from how I feel about MJ, I find it stunning that they would call this one-sided interview a good example of a documentary. Somehow manipulation is everything and truth is nothing.
  3. Marlon Brando Made Michael Jackson Cry Over Molestation Claims

    ”Not that we’re transparently trying to get you to listen to our podcast, but...” In other words, nothing he said was of any legal consequence. So, picking and choosing what to report on. No wonder this article is a jumble of nonsequiturs. This sounds like just another version of what we’ve...
  4. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Reed really is puffed up with his own importance. The only thing i’ll consider him for is the Milli Vanilli Award.
  5. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Ugh. Margo Jefferson was probably the biographer who irritated me the most. People like Dimond and Orth are just mouth-breathing knuckledraggers, but Jefferson was capable of much more, and she just threw up her hands and claimed that there was no way to know whether Michael was innocent or not...
  6. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    The problem may be not that she’s misquoted, but that she’s selectively quoted. Her full answers may well be more complex and nuanced, and the writer has cherry-picked sentences that he feels ‘work’ for the article. When she talks about the dark side, the article gives the impression she means...
  7. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    She’s got a transcript on her website that is more coherent than the short video. http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/2005trialtruth.html
  8. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    He posted the same story just recently (Jan 2019) on ResetEra.
  9. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    You’re most likely thinking of Joy Robson’s 2005 testimony. It’s on VindicateMJ’s site.
  10. Anthony Pellicano released from prison - do you expect him to sell out Michael Jackson?

    Maybe Bambi’s mother is buried in the rose garden at Neverland. The guy says a lot of things. At the time, he said he was stepping down to spend more time with his family, which is code for getting fired. Many people connected it with the physical threats allegedly made against the 3 bodyguards...
  11. Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

    Under the American legal system, you can be criminally charged in either of two ways: you can be indicted by a grand jury, or the prosecutor can directly file charges. in 1993, a grand jury was convened to review the evidence. Jordan Chandler declined to testify, so the grand jury did not...
  12. Donald Trump elected as America's 45th President.

    This article just unintentionally underscores the absurdity of challenging the American power structure by electing a 1%-er. All of those issues that Reich pinpoints as triggers for the white working class -- skyrocketing CEO pay, loss of manufacturing jobs, the crash of the economy in 2008 --...
  13. [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate I'm not an expert either, but I would guess narcissistic personality disorder, not unlike other people who have latched onto MJ. Wade's feelings of victimization are real to him, it's just that he's not...
  14. Joseph Fiennes To Play MJ In 9/11 Programme

    Try and parse that gobbledygook. Given that Michael had vitiligo, pale skin wasn't a look that he cultivated and doesn't represent anything about his thought process or identity. Yet, the thing apparently uppermost in the casting director's mind was to match Michael's skin color in 2001. That...
  15. Joseph Fiennes To Play MJ In 9/11 Programme

    Detached like a white actor who gets himself cast as a black icon in the current atmosphere of disillusionment about black people's access to Hollywood?
  16. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

    SPOILERS I suppose the temptation to link Plagueis to Snoke is to make a confrontation with Snoke represent coming full circle. Anakin went Dark Side thinking he could master Plagueis' ability to use the Force to preserve life. But if Snoke isn't Plagueis, then the question is, who is he, where...
  17. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

    SPOILER I'm about 100% on Rey being Luke's daughter. They drew umpteen parallels between the two characters, plus there's those two synergistic scenes of someone handing someone else a lightsaber. In one, the son is (purportedly) handing his father the lightsaber, but hands him his death...
  18. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)

    Kylo Ren doesn't bring the kind of visceral menace that Darth Vader did. He's pretty solidly in wannabe territory at this point, which is probably intentional. He crosses a threshold here, obviously, but I question whether he will ever become truly frightening, or just petty and vicious. Rey's...
  19. Debates with the public

    I suspect he's referring to what was in Jordan Chandler's deposition, which could not be presented in court because Jordan was not willing to show up and defend his own claims. That's basic Constitutional law, which requires a defendant be allowed to cross-examine witnesses against him, and...
  20. [Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

    Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate Well, if he keeps saying things like this -- -- which evince a contempt for the legal process, he's not going to have to worry about anyone wanting him to testify as an expert witness.
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