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  1. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    There is no way no one could have known about Propofol though. Hence why testimony about his previous battle with addiction is so important. The narrative is: "He was addicted and doctor shopping. Murray was yet another doctor found to do what Michael pleased. We can't be held responsible...
  2. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Through testimony we've learned that Randy Philips did in fact suspect drugs, doctor misconduct, etc. Also, it was more than just him being groggy leaving Klein's office that lead to those suspicions. He just suspected Klein. If you suspect doctor misconduct I'm not sure why you wouldn't suspect...
  3. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Suspected doctor misconduct. Which AEG did suspect. Not what the doctor was doing, because even if what AEG suspected about Klein was true, there was no way for them to know exactly what Klein was giving to Michael. Hence, why it's so important for AEG to show secretive, doctor shopping...
  4. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    AEG suspected it though. They didn't know the specifics, which is understandable, but they suspected it. They simply suspected Klein and not Murray, but they did suspect it, so the "we couldn't possibly have known" stance goes out the window. The are trying to create the narrative that he was...
  5. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    They did suspect it though. That's another problem for them. Phillips for some reason suspected Klein and not Murray, which still makes no sense to me, but I digress... Had there been no proof that they suspected it, they could make that claim and it would make more sense. I think it's a blow...
  6. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Educate the jury on vitiligo and how he went about treating it. Most people aren't familiar with the treatments, etc. Overall too make him and his situation relatable. Just my educated guess. That's possible too. However, Debbie comes off as a person that's just there to tell the truth. She...
  7. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    I'm guessing to get Debbie to talk about his treatments and just why he received them. Helping the jury understand just why he ended up in the predicament that he was in. That he wasn't doctor shopping, but that he had legitimate health issues. It makes him sympathetic to the jury, which...
  8. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    If Michael is sympathetic then "blaming the victim" (which seems to be AEG's strategy) isn't going go over well with the Jury. That's just how I see it, I could be wrong.
  9. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Debbie's testimony makes Michael sympathetic. It gives you more knowledge of just how he Michael ended up in the situation that he did with prescription medication and dependency. Trusting people naively and unethical doctors. You understand he wasn't doctor shopping, simply trying to get what...
  10. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    That's assumption that the interventions were disingenuous and I don't believe they were.
  11. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    If they barely had contact, they also wouldn't be able to pressure him for money and to do concerts. Can't have it both ways. Also, if you are being alerted of issues from within his inner circle, that could spearhead an attempt at interventions, even without seeing things in depth for yourself...
  12. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Michael didn't accuse Randy. Michael accused Don Stabler. As I told you before, pay attention what Michael actually said and not what insinuated by the writer. Also, as we both know, Stabler wasn't the only person Randy introduced to Michael to handle his affairs. There have been many shady...
  13. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    I'm speaking of those saying the interventions never took place or that it's outright lies... that's what some don't want to deal with or don't want out in the public. Which, I do understand. However, I think we as fan base need to come to a point of acceptance. Michael had those issues. He had...
  14. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    What point would it serve to discuss his issues with the public prior to his death? Having the world know the extent of what he was going through wouldn't have helped him overcome and/or successfully combat his battle. That's where we disagree, because I don't see outright lies. I see things...
  15. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    If I suspect doctor misconduct, I suspect every known doctor involved unless a full investigation proves otherwise.
  16. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Thank you for reading my mind on what my response would be. lol No, I understand people being against this trial. There are many legitimate reasons that can be made for this trial not taking place. I understand people not wanting the information being paraded out and making international...
  17. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    That makes absolutely no logical sense. If you suspect doctor misconduct, it makes no sense to suspect one doctor and not at least have slight suspicion of the doctor that Michael wants as his personal physician. The logical approach would be to be suspicious of both. Instead AEG put more...
  18. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Michael didn't call out Randy. Michael called out Don Stabler. The rest was filled in by the writer of the article. Read Michael's comments carefully. I wouldn't want to deal anyone that questioned whether I was truly "black"... simply because I wouldn't sign a piece of paper. That is...
  19. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    - AEG suspected drugs and misconduct of a doctor. Phillips, for some reason, suspected Klein and not Murray though... which makes absolutely no sense. If anything, he should have suspected both. Also, no where does it state that AEG had to know what methods Murray was treating Michael with...
  20. Open General discussion - Katherine Jackson vs AEG

    Simple. It doesn't. Despite what everyone is saying. What Randy said is what the jury already knows. Michael had on/off addiction issues with prescription meds. Those that truly cared in his inner circle and his family intervened and Michael did in fact show signs rehabilitating his issues...
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