One non-believer here. I guess I'm atheist because I don't believe in God. I don't personally like to use the word atheist that much because it makes it sound like it is a religion.
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Dawkins rocks, can't get enough of his stuff.
I'm glad you chose logic and reason over a comforting fairy tale MJresercher.
Former Catholic here and I've been atheist/secular humanist for 11 years. Fortunately my parents aren't fanatical nor obssessed over religion, actually many Mexicans are casual believers because they do so when it's convenient to them; I've encounter discrimination for it nonetheless.
I don't have any problem with believers/religious people for the mere fact of their beliefs, anyone is free to believe in whatever or whoever they want but it really bothers me when many of them attribute EVERYTHING to their god/dess(es) like this recent, spectacular and beautiful lunar eclipse. Many delusionals were attributing it to Jesus and the apocalypse taking away credit to our universe and how it works in this case.
In my case, there's no way back, I'd have to completely lose my mind to be a believer again. I'm aware we're still a minority, even us MJ fans nonbelievers. It seems it's very common to be an MJ fan and believing in deities. Even if this thread is not very active, I'm glad I'm not alone.
It's a shame most women in Islam can't proudly say they're a former Muslims. I don't think all religious people are bad but in many cases, it takes religion to do evil. Islam frightens me to be honest knowing how Theo van Gogh was brutally murdered for telling the truth, thousands of little girls are forced to get marry with older men and they ended up being raped and tortured in many Islamic countries where pedophilia is legal.
Now to BUMPER.
I admit we have bad representatives for atheism
but you have to remember that not in all cases those dictators comitted atrocities and other crimes against humanity in the name of atheism but for their political views and totalitarian governments.
Even though Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong and Kim Jong Ill didn't believe in any deity, they thought they were gods themselves. Nowadays Jong Ill's family forve North Koreans to venerate them as gods.
I never said in all Muslim countries child marriage is permitted. But North Africa, India (talking about Islamic nations) has the highest rate of child brides. Afganistan wants to low the legal age to get marry from 18 to 14 if I remember correctly.
Snow White luvs Peter Pan;3986322 said:To MJresearcher.
Yeah, it irks me when they do that. Doctors and nurses in general studying 8 years of medicine for such an usurper taking all the credit when they improved their health or saved their lives. Although, it puzzles me physicians being believers to be honest. It also irks me when people in general achieve something and they thank to their chosen deities.
I don't see it as a bad thing feeling prooud of oneself every time you achieve your goals and dreams. If people work their ass off to make it happen, why not. I LOVE Michael with all my "heart" (hypothalamus) and I truly respect him as a human being and artist; however I can't help disagreeing with his theist views. Every time I listened to him thanking his god for his enormous talent and multiple achievements, I wanted to tell him: "no Michael, you inherited your talent from your parents, you developed it, cultivated it through the years to be the best in what you do. As a result of your dedication and your hard work, you achieved all those accomplishments, it is because of you and all the people who have helped you, no one else."
I'm sorry to hear your brother has gone through all that hate and suffering just because a bunch of homophobic bigots think it's an abomination or something abnormal. Many species from the animal kingdom are have shown homosexual or bisexual behavior which is completely natural, so is for mammal humans. I wish he doesn't suffer anymore and finds happiness. In a way I can relate to him on discrimination, I didn't choose to born premature, to have physical limitations and using a walker. I just can tell I wish no one to go through it because it's idiotic and horrible.