Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Themidwestcowboy

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Safechuck's family waste company has shareholders, who should receive a share of the profits, according to their shareholding and whatever agreements are in place. The plaintiff (Complainant) is saying that he hasn't received his expected share of profits since 2010. He's also saying that Safechuck, or someone else associated with the Comapny has pressured him to sell his shareholding. The amount in dispute is unclear, but seems to be in excess of $200k. The date on the complainants claim is April 2013.

I swear I must be dumb but i like understood 20% of what you wrote haha.
 

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I only skimmed before as I was checking headlines following the documentary airing over here. They both reference a Radar Online article.. so I guess its BS and US fans have probably already seen this.

Very unclear where this 11 new victims information comes from but they're reporting it.

Jesus Christ. Well those two are dirt tabloids but WTF...whyyyy? What kind of 'inside source' would that be. Who have these alleged victims come forward to exactly?? Argh this needs to stop. I can't stomach this going on and on
 

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-neverland-body-exhumed-14041454

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...on-documentary-leaving-neverland-body-exhumed

I only skimmed before as I was checking headlines following the documentary airing over here. They both reference a Radar Online article.. so I guess its BS and US fans have probably already seen this.

Very unclear where this 11 new victims information comes from but they're reporting it.

Jesus Christ. Well those two are dirt tabloids but WTF...whyyyy? What kind of 'inside source' would that be. Who have these alleged victims come forward to exactly?? Argh this needs to stop. I can't stomach this going on and on

Guys...Please remember that online media and newspapers routinely copy and paste each others articles and so we are getting the same 'reports' with the same 'news' and we are consequently going round in circles. There are no new alleged victims.
 

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AG5050;4246959 said:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-neverland-body-exhumed-14041454

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...on-documentary-leaving-neverland-body-exhumed

I only skimmed before as I was checking headlines following the documentary airing over here. They both reference a Radar Online article.. so I guess its BS and US fans have probably already seen this.

Very unclear where this 11 new victims information comes from but they're reporting it.

Radar Online also reported that child porn was part of the “evidence” that the police still had in their possession. Even though that kind of crap was never found. Radar Online and other Tabloids are full of crap.
 

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I swear I must be dumb but i like understood 20% of what you wrote haha.

No worries....If you invest in a business (put your own money into it to buy equipment or pay staff at start-up) you expect to get money back over time, and eventually make a profit. This complainant put money into the business, but says he has has stopped receiving any money back, and also that someone wanted him to sell his 'interest' (shares - representing the money he paid upfront) cheaply.

If Safechuck had to pay a large sum to this complainant (and we don't know that he does, as we don't know the court result), he would need to find a way to raise that money.
 

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Guys...Please remember that online media and newspapers routinely copy and paste each others articles and so we are getting the same 'reports' with the same 'news' and we are consequently going round in circles. There are no new alleged victims.


Thank you! 11 new alleged victims my ass.
 

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-neverland-body-exhumed-14041454

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...on-documentary-leaving-neverland-body-exhumed

I only skimmed before as I was checking headlines following the documentary airing over here. They both reference a Radar Online article.. so I guess its BS and US fans have probably already seen this.

Very unclear where this 11 new victims information comes from but they're reporting it.

Everyone here in the UK, knows the tabloids are pure crap.
Stop paying attention and clicks to such rubbish.
 

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But why have it in the first place?
I don't understand. There can be many reasons for the alarm system that I already mentioned. Imagine... You have a wife Lisa Marie (or any other women, I assume he had women before Lisa as well) and you have sex. She has children, you may have guest children visiting. They may be somewhere in a property, on the other side of the house. They either could rush in or listen behind the door cause you don't know when they may come. Another version... If we think that Michael was fearing for his life. He may be afraid that somebody would come to kill him let's say while he is sleeping and make it look as a suicide (money can do ppl crazy). Or... you hire Staff but you never know when they may betray you. They may listen behind the door without you knowing. Doesn't these reasons shouldn't be enough? Why there always should be something to do with accusations?
I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle since the begging, since 2005. Try to think about other reasons than the using children. Try to put yourself in Michael's shoes and think how it is to be the biggest star in the world. It is not all gold and fun. It was very hard for Michael, emotional hard. Try to vindicate him by yourself and look for other reasons rather than these accusations.
 

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Guys...Please remember that online media and newspapers routinely copy and paste each others articles and so we are getting the same 'reports' with the same 'news' and we are consequently going round in circles. There are no new alleged victims.

Everyone here in the UK, knows the tabloids are pure crap.
Stop paying attention and clicks to such rubbish.


Thanks, I didn't share to 'spread the news' I just think its important we keep up to date with what's out there and what is being said. Any new victims would be widely reported, the original radar online article is from yesterday.
 

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Privacy? Have you forgotten about the nanny who used to trespass and hop in the bed with MJ while he was sleeping? Or workers who stole underwear and other things?
Really? wow hehe I haven't heard these things either. I am fan since '93.
 

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I'm still on the fence if Michael is innocent or guilty. Obviously I'd like to think he's innocent, but with the lack of response from the estate, it's not looking good.

The Estate will continue to make money after this even if they do nothing.....and that's my fear.

Sharing his bed was wrong but it's hardly new information.
While I agree with many haters that MJ shouldn't have been doing that,I also like to add that he was always happy to say it on TV or wherever.

Hardly something you'd shout from the rooftops if indeed you were up to no good.
 

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Safechuck's family waste company has shareholders, who should receive a share of the profits, according to their shareholding and whatever agreements are in place.

The plaintiff (Complainant) is saying that he hasn't received his expected share of profits since 2010. He's also saying that Safechuck, or someone else associated with the Comapny has pressured him to sell his shareholding. The amount in dispute is unclear, but seems to be in excess of $200k. The date on the complainants claim is April 2013.

There is no indication as to whether this case has been resolved, and if so who won.

I think Safechuck's complaint against MJ dates from May 2014.
that you. So this is the reason why he needs money. Good to know. Cause I was unclear why exactly he is for this. I mean, yes, the money, but I thought there must be reason why and why now.
 

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The Estate will continue to make money after this even if they do nothing.....and that's my fear.

Sharing his bed was wrong but it's hardly new information.
While I agree with many haters that MJ shouldn't have been doing that,I also like to add that he was always happy to say it on TV or wherever.

Hardly something you'd shout from the rooftops if indeed you were up to no good.

MJ was brought up, and lived to the age of 10 in a house with a total of 11 family members and two bedrooms. All the kids shared rooms, and I believe that some shared beds. He then moved to LA with the family, and they had a much larger house. However, the J5 went on extended tours, and spent huge amounts of time living in hotels (MJ said he rarely saw his mom). If you look up all their tour dates, it's actually horrendous how much time the younger Jacksons spent away from home.

Living in hotels, means that your bedroom (also mostly shared) is also your living room. Friends would be invited there, and you'd spend a lot of your time there chatting, reading, watching TV, whatever. The J5 couldn't leave their hotels easily because they'd be mobbed.

So MJ shared a 'bedroom' from when he was born, through most of his J5 working life. The bed tends to be the most comfortable place to sit/ relax, especially if you are reading or watching TV.

It's not that surprising that he also invited friends into his 'bedroom' (with TV, books, games etc just like a hotel), when he moved to Neverland. (The room layout of which was not designed by him.)

Funnily enough, when he was interviewed (? possibly during the Victory tour), a reporter asked why he had not left home. He had spent some time in New York during filming 'The Wiz' - he rented a flat and La Toya also lived there), but leaving home completely was a huge step for him. He was still living at Hayvenhurst when he did the Motown 25 performance (I think). I only come from a small family, but I can imagine how strange it would seem living on your own after living with maybe 6 or 7 other people (after Jermaine ,Rebbie etc had left).
 
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Back to the old school again I see with the targeted media hit-pieces on a dead man.

We've got some serious issues to sort out with our society.

I am too observant about this, but has anyone noticed Wade's had a hair transplant? Gotta pay for those cosmetic bills somehow right? Definitely looks like he's had one, either way, pretty sure he's had some cosmetic surgery somehow.
 

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In the 70's my cousin who went to one of the Jackson's show said a woman was able to get into their hotel room and she was in the bathtub during the Trumiph tour.
 

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MJ was brought up, and lived to the age of 10 in a house with a total of 11 family members and two bedrooms. All the kids shared rooms, and I believe that some shared beds. He then moved to LA with the family, and they had a much larger house. However, the J5 went on extended tours, and spent huge amounts of time living in hotels (MJ said he rarely saw his mom). If you look up all their tour dates, it's actually horrendous how much time the younger Jacksons spent away from home.

Living in hotels, means that your bedroom (also mostly shared) is also your living room. Friends would be invited there, and you'd spend a lot of your time their chatting, reading, watching TV, whatever. The J5 couldn't leave their hotels easily because they'd be mobbed.

So MJ shared a 'bedroom' from when he was born, through most of his J5 working life.

It's not that surprising that he also invited friends into his 'bedroom' (with TV, books, games etc just like a hotel), when he moved to Neverland. (The room layout of which was not designed by him.)
yes. Ppl have to understand that Michael had a totally different experience what we had since the very young age. He didn't have a normal life what normal is to us. His world mostly was his own inside world his whole life.
 

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Back to the old school again I see with the targeted media hit-pieces on a dead man.

We've got some serious issues to sort out with our society.

I am too observant about this, but has anyone noticed Wade's had a hair transplant? Gotta pay for those cosmetic bills somehow right? Definitely looks like he's had one, either way, pretty sure he's had some cosmetic surgery somehow.
I hadn't clocked that but now you say mention it he clearly has. In the footage from the '05 trial his hairline is clearly receding.
 

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I hadn't clocked that but now you say mention it he clearly has. In the footage from the '05 trial his hairline is clearly receding.
I'm glad I wasn't seeing things. Dumbass is spending money he doesn't have.

Good luck getting the $1.5 bill again both. All the best!
 

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Those tabloids linked with stories that there are 11 accusers are tabloids that make stuff up about all subjects and all people, they are not credible sources, I wouldn't believe it from them.
Also the thing saying he could be exhumed is highly likely to be complete bulls--- and clickbait. They don't even say what the point would be of getting the DNA. The only point in this is if they had smoking gun evidence like one of the boys underwear or clothes with what they claim to be MJs semen on it and they want to prove it was really his. Which I don't think would even be likely to still exist after all this time.
 
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