George Steinbrenner, A Hero Like Michael Jackson, To Me, And Owner Of The Yankees, Dies'

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i'm about to post an article, that i haven't fully read. there may be bad things in it, and if there are, i don't agree with them, as being truly bad things. in many ways, i compare him to Michael Jackson. he was charitable, and spent money on people...big money. he treated people like they had worth, instead of treating things better than people. he made the Yankees into winners, for those who like baseball. he made a statement, a lot like Michael. he said, that the Yankees are like the mona lisa. just like Michael said the Beatles catalogue is like a Picasso.

i just feel we lost the true meaning of living, and giving, and how to treat money, when we lost Michael and George. i'll forever miss them both. Steinbrenner is the reason i became a Yankees fan, even though i never lived, or don't live in New York. too bad we are left with the kinds of sports owners we have, today. here is the sports page article on my other hero, George:

NEW YORK -- George Steinbrenner, whose big wallet and win-at-all-cost attitude whipped the New York Yankees into a billion-dollar sports empire, died Tuesday morning. He had just celebrated his 80th birthday July 4.


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Steinbrenner had a heart attack, was taken to St. Joseph's Hospital in Tampa, Fla., and died at about 6:30 a.m. ET, according to multiple reports.
"George was 'The Boss,' make no mistake," Hall of Famer Yogi Berra said. "He built the Yankees into champions, and that's something nobody can ever deny. He was a very generous, caring, passionate man. George and I had our differences, but who didn't? We became great friends over the last decade and I will miss him very much."
In 37-plus seasons as owner, Steinbrenner led the Yankees to seven World Series championships, 11 American League pennants and 16 AL East titles.
"He was and always will be as much of a New York Yankee as Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford and all of the other Yankee legends," baseball commissioner Bud Selig said. "Although we would have disagreements over the years, they never interfered with our friendship and commitment to each other. Our friendship was built on loyalty and trust and it never wavered."
New York was 11 years removed from its last championship when he headed a group that bought the team from CBS Inc. on Jan. 3, 1973, for about $10 million.
He revolutionized the franchise -- and sports -- by starting his own television network and ballpark food company. Forbes now values the Yankees at $1.6 billion, trailing only Manchester United ($1.8 billion) and the Dallas Cowboys ($1.65 billion).

The Boss' Quick Hook

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In George Steinbrenner's 38 years as owner, the Yankees won seven World Series and appeared in the postseason 19 times. But that didn't mean the team had stability in the dugout. The Boss employed 15 different managers, including Billy Martin (pictured), who managed the Bronx Bombers five times.
Managers under Steinbrenner 1973 Sept. 30: Ralph Houk resigned 1974 Jan. 3: Bill Virdon hired. 1975 Aug. 1: Virdon fired. Billy Martin hired. 1978 July 24: Martin resigned. July 25: Bob Lemon hired. 1979 June 18: Lemon fired. Martin hired. Oct. 28: Martin fired. Dick Howser hired. 1980 Nov. 21: Howser resigned. Gene Michael hired. 1981 Sept. 6: Michael fired. Lemon hired. 1982 April 26: Lemon fired. Michael hired. Aug. 3: Michael fired. Clyde King hired as interim manager. 1983 Jan. 11: Martin hired. Dec. 16: Martin fired. Yogi Berra hired. 1985 April 28: Berra fired. Martin hired. Oct. 27: Martin fired. Lou Piniella hired. 1987 Oct. 19: Piniella promoted. Martin hired. 1988 June 23: Martin fired. Piniella hired. Oct. 7: Piniella fired. Dallas Green hired. 1989 Aug. 18: Green fired. Bucky Dent hired. 1990 June 6: Dent fired. Stump Merrill hired. 1991 Oct. 7: Merrill fired. Oct. 29: Buck Showalter hired. 1995 Oct. 26: Showalter resigns. Nov. 2: Joe Torre hired. 2007 Oct. 18: Torre rejects new contract offer. Oct. 30: Joe Girardi hired

"He was an incredible and charitable man," his family said in a statement. "He was a visionary and a giant in the world of sports. He took a great but struggling franchise and turned it into a champion again."
The Steinbrenner family said that funeral arrangements will be private; however, details about an additional public service will be announced at a later date.
He ruled with obsessive dedication to detail, overseeing everything from trades to the airblowers that kept his ballparks spotless. He admittedly was overbearing, screaming at all from commissioners to managers to secretaries.
His reign was interrupted for suspensions, including a 15-month ban in 1974 after his guilty plea to conspiring to make illegal contributions to President Richard Nixon's re-election campaign. He was pardoned 15 years later by President Ronald Reagan.
Steinbrenner's death on the day of the All-Star Game was the second in three days to rock the Yankees. Bob Sheppard, the team's revered public address announcer from 1951-07, died Sunday at 99.
"He was truly the most influential and innovative owner in all of sports," former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said. "He made the Yankees a source of great pride in being a New Yorker."
The son of a shipping magnate, Steinbrenner lived up to his billing as "the Boss," a nickname he earned and clearly enjoyed as he ruled with an iron fist. While he lived in Tampa he was a staple on the front pages of New York newspapers.
Steinbrenner's mansion, on a leafy street in an older neighborhood of south Tampa, was quiet Tuesday. Private security guards milled around on the empty circular driveway inside the gates. A police officer turned away reporters along the narrow street. News vehicles lined the other side of the street.
"The passing of George Steinbrenner marks the end of an era in New York City baseball history," rival Mets owners Fred and Jeff Wilpon and Saul Katz said. "George was a larger than life figure and a force in the industry."
Steinbrenner was known for feuds, clashing with Berra and hiring manager Billy Martin five times while repeatedly fighting with him. But as his health declined, Steinbrenner let sons Hal and Hank run more of the family business.
Steinbrenner was in fragile health for years, resulting in fewer public appearances and pronouncements. Yet dressed in his trademark navy blue blazer and white turtleneck, he was the model of success.
"Few people have had a bigger impact on New York over the past four decades than George Steinbrenner," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said. "George had a deep love for New York, and his steely determination to succeed combined with his deep respect and appreciation for talent and hard work made him a quintessential New Yorker."
He appeared at the new Yankee Stadium just four times: the 2009 opener, the first two games of last year's World Series and this year's home opener, when captain Derek Jeter and manager Joe Girardi went to his suite and personally delivered his seventh World Series ring.
"He was very emotional," said Hal Steinbrenner, his father's successor as managing general partner.
Till the end, Steinbrenner demanded championships. He barbed Joe Torre during the 2007 AL playoffs, then let the popular manager leave after another loss in the opening round. The team responded last year by winning another title.
"I will always remember George Steinbrenner as a passionate man, a tough boss, a true visionary, a great humanitarian, and a dear friend," Torre said. "It's only fitting that he went out as a world champ."
Steinbrenner had fainted at a memorial service for NFL great Otto Graham in 2003, appeared weak in 2006 at the groundbreaking for the new stadium and later became ill while watching his granddaughter in a college play. At this past spring training, he used a wheelchair and needed aides to hold him during the national anthem.
In recent times, Steinbrenner let sons Hal and Hank run more of the family business. Still, the former Big Ten football coach took umbrage when others questioned his fitness.
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George and I had our differences, but who didn't? We became great friends over the last decade and I will miss him very much.
” -- Yogi Berra​
"I am not ill. I work out daily," Steinbrenner said in 2006. "I'd like to see people who are saying that to come down here and do the workout that I do."
When Steinbrenner bought the team, he famously promised a hands-off operation.
"We're not going to pretend we're something we aren't," he said. "I'll stick to building ships."
It hardly turned out that way. Consider his dealings with Dave Winfield. Steinbrenner paid to dig up dirt on the outfielder and derided the future Hall of Famer as "Mr. May" in 1985 after poor performances.
"There is nothing quite so limited as being a limited partner of George Steinbrenner's," one of them, John McMullen, said later.
Still, Steinbrenner could poke fun at himself. He hosted "Saturday Night Live," clowned with Martin in a commercial and chuckled at his impersonation on "Seinfeld." He gave millions to charity, often with one stipulation, that no one know who made the donation.
Steinbrenner spent freely, shelling out huge amounts for Jeter, Reggie Jackson, Alex Rodriguez, Torre and others in hopes of yet another title. And the team's value increased more than 100-fold from the $8.7 million net price his group paid in 1973.
"Winning is the most important thing in my life, after breathing," Steinbrenner was fond of saying. "Breathing first, winning next."
All along, he envisioned himself as a true Yankee Doodle Dandy. It was fitting: George Michael Steinbrenner III was born on the Fourth of July, in 1930.
He joined the likes of Al Davis, Charlie O. Finley, Bill Veeck, George Halas, Jack Kent Cooke and Jerry Jones as the most recognized team owners in history. But Steinbrenner's sporting interests extended beyond baseball.
He was an assistant football coach at Northwestern and Purdue in the 1950s and was part of the group that bought the Cleveland Pipers of the American Basketball League in the 1960s.
He was a vice president of the U.S. Olympic Committee from 1989-96 and entered six horses in the Kentucky Derby, failing to win with Steve's Friend (1977), Eternal Prince (1985), Diligence (1996), Concerto (1997), Blue Burner (2002) and the 2005 favorite, Bellamy Road.

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"His influence on the U.S. Olympic Movement, his devotion to sport and the pursuit of excellence will forever be remembered," the USOC said in a statement.
To many, though, the Yankees and Steinbrenner were synonymous. His fans applauded his win-at-all-costs style. His detractors blamed him for spiraling salaries and wrecking baseball's competitive balance.
Steinbrenner never managed a game, but he controlled everything else. When he thought the club's parking lot was too crowded, Steinbrenner stood on the pavement -- albeit behind a van, out of sight -- and had a guard personally check every driver's credential.
Steinbrenner made no apologies for his bombast, even when it cost him. He served two long suspensions: He was banned for 2½ years for paying self-described gambler Howie Spira to dig up negative information on Winfield, and for 15 months following a guilty plea for his conduct during the Watergate era.
"I haven't always done a good job, and I haven't always been successful," Steinbrenner said in 2005. "But I know that I have tried."
Steinbrenner negotiated a landmark $486 million, 12-year cable television contract with the Madison Square Garden Network in 1988 and launched the Yankees' own YES Network for the 2002 season.
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He was and always will be as much of a New York Yankee as Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Whitey Ford and all of the other Yankee legends.
” -- Bud Selig​
The Yankees later became the first team with a $200 million payroll, provoking anger and envy among other owners. After the 1982 season, Baltimore owner Edward Bennett Williams said Steinbrenner hoarded outfielders "like nuclear weapons."
He also changed managers nearly two dozen times and got rid of more than a dozen general managers. When a Yankees public relations man went home to Ohio for the Christmas holiday, then returned in a hurry for a news conference to announce David Cone's re-signing, Steinbrenner fired him.
After Steinbrenner dismissed Berra as manager 16 games into the 1985 season, the Hall of Famer vowed he wouldn't go to back to Yankee Stadium for a game until Steinbrenner apologized.
One night in 1982, reliever Goose Gossage let loose and called Steinbrenner "the fat man." And in 1978, Martin said of Jackson and Steinbrenner: "The two of them deserve each other -- one's a born liar, the other's convicted."
There was no denying the results, however.
When Steinbrenner bought the Yankees, they had gone eight seasons without finishing in first place, their longest drought since Babe Ruth & Co. won the team's first pennant in 1921.
"George has been a very charismatic, controversial owner," commissioner Bud Selig said in 2005. " But look, he did what he set out to do -- he restored the New York Yankees franchise."
Former AL president Gene Budig sometimes was on the wrong end of Steinbrenner's barbs. After he left office, Budig maintained a friendship with him and even promoted Steinbrenner for the Hall of Fame.
Steinbrenner liked to quote military figures and saw games as an extension of war. No surprise that in the tunnel leading from the Yankees' clubhouse to the field, he had a sign posted with a saying from Gen. Douglas MacArthur: "There is no substitute for victory."
“ He was a visionary and a giant in the world of sports. He took a great but struggling franchise and turned it into a champion again.
” -- Steinbrenner family statement​
Steinbrenner also had a soft side. He sometimes read about high school athletes who had been injured and sent them money to go to college. He paid for the medical school expenses of Ron Karnaugh after the swimmer's father died during the opening ceremony at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics.
Steinbrenner kept older friends from his football days on the payroll, had a way of rehiring those he had once fired and liked to give second chances to those who had fallen from favor, such as Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden.
"I'm really 95 percent Mr. Rogers," Steinbrenner said as he approached his 75th birthday, "and only 5 percent Oscar the Grouch."
While Steinbrenner grew up in the Cleveland area as a Yankees fan, his first passion was football. He fondly recalled watching the Browns on cold winter days and many believe the NFL's must-win-today mentality shaped how he approached all sports.

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It was while he was under suspension that the Yankees ushered in baseball's new free-agent era by signing Catfish Hunter to a $3.75 million contract. Even though he was officially barred from participating in the daily operation of the team, no one believed that Steinbrenner was not involved in that deal.



Steinbrenner was raised in a strict, no-nonsense household headed by his father, Henry. The oldest of three children, Steinbrenner attended Culver Military Academy in Indiana. At Williams College, he was a track man and specialized in hurdles.
After that, he enlisted in the Air Force. Steinbrenner always was partial to the military and at Yankee Stadium, men and women in uniform were admitted free.
Following his discharge, he enrolled at Ohio State, pursuing a master's degree in physical education. It was his intention to go into coaching, but after working at a high school in Columbus and at Purdue and Northwestern, he turned to the business world. Steinbrenner married Elizabeth Zieg in 1956 and they had four children.
In 1963, Steinbrenner purchased Kinsman Transit Co., a fleet of lake ore carriers, from his family and built a thriving company. Four years later, Steinbrenner and associates took over American Shipbuilding and revitalized the company.
It was in Cleveland that Steinbrenner met veteran baseball executive Gabe Paul and became involved with the group that bought the Yankees. With 13 partners, Steinbrenner purchased the team from CBS Inc.
"When you're a shipbuilder, nobody pays any attention to you," he said. "But when you own the New York Yankees ... they do, and I love it."
With that, the Bronx Zoo days began. It was while he was under suspension that the Yankees ushered in baseball's new free-agent era by signing Catfish Hunter to a $3.75 million contract. Even though he was officially barred from participating in the daily operation of the team, no one believed Steinbrenner was not involved in that deal.


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For the first five years of the free agency, Steinbrenner signed 10 players at an approximate cost of $38 million. Steinbrenner's $18.2 million, 10-year deal with Winfield was the richest free agent contract in history.
Winfield, now an ESPN baseball analyst, said Tuesday that Steinbrenner was all about winning.
"He didn't want to lose at all. A [player] had to come in there and want to win, know how to win, and lay it all on the line. Otherwise, they were in trouble ... they'll have to look at him as one of the top owners in sports."
During those days, Yankee Stadium underwent a $100 million facelift and reopened in 1976. That year, the Yankees won the AL pennant, but got swept in the World Series by Cincinnati's Big Red Machine. The Yankees surged back to win the World Series in 1977 and 1978 and the AL pennant in 1981.
While the Yankees' roster continually changed, so did the team's front office. However, the one constant for most of Steinbrenner's time, was winning. Asked his formula for success, he said: "Work as hard as you ask others to. Strive for what you believe is right, no matter the odds. Learn that mistakes can be the best teacher."
In addition to his sons, Steinbrenner is survived by his wife, Joan, daughters Jennifer and Jessica and 13 grandchildren.
Information from The Associated Press was used in this report
 
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I loved this man. Greatest owner in sports EVER.!!! We are weeping here in the BRONX. Just got back from the home office of baseball (yankee stadium) where i place a bouquet to honor the owner of the 27th times world champions ny yankees, GEORGE M STEINBRENNER III.

He was fearless. Gave as good as he got. Yes he was indeed a WINNER. Ruled over THE GREATEST, AND MOST SUCCESSFUL SPORTS FRANCHISE IN HISTORY. Departed this earth a WORLD CHAMPION. Goodbye BOSS.!!
 

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I loved this man. Greatest owner in sports EVER.!!! We are weeping here in the BRONX. Just got back from the home office of baseball (yankee stadium) where i place a bouquet to honor the owner of the 27th times world champions ny yankees, GEORGE M STEINBRENNER III.

He was fearless. Gave as good as he got. Yes he was indeed a WINNER. Ruled over THE GREATEST, AND MOST SUCCESSFUL SPORTS FRANCHISE IN HISTORY. Departed this earth a WORLD CHAMPION. Goodbye BOSS.!!

Agreed.

It's another sad loss for Yankee fans.

I really didn't know much about Steinbrenner though except for his tough reputation. I didn't know about all his charitable giving.
 

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My condolences to the Steinbrenner family and the fans of the Yankees. I personally don't care for the Yankees. The way that he drove insane salary amounts up in baseball, is proof that baseball needs a salary cap.......this coming from a Twins fan who's team just spent 180 million dollars on a catcher.

Insane but at the same time I blame Steinbrenner for raising the bar for greedyness in baseball.
 

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My condolences to the Steinbrenner family and the fans of the Yankees. I personally don't care for the Yankees. The way that he drove insane salary amounts up in baseball, is proof that baseball needs a salary cap.......this coming from a Twins fan who's team just spent 180 million dollars on a catcher.

Insane but at the same time I blame Steinbrenner for raising the bar for greedyness in baseball.

if any of the players that Steinbrenner paid, were a Mercedes Benz, would you argue about the asking price for the car?
 

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My condolences to the Steinbrenner family and the fans of the Yankees. I personally don't care for the Yankees. The way that he drove insane salary amounts up in baseball, is proof that baseball needs a salary cap.......this coming from a Twins fan who's team just spent 180 million dollars on a catcher.

Insane but at the same time I blame Steinbrenner for raising the bar for greedyness in baseball.


All the profits from steinbrenner's yankees are put right back into the team, unlike most baseball owners who pockets the money, especially the millions steinbrenner's yankees pays annually in luxury tax. Yes steinbrenner wanted the best for his BRONX BOMBERS, and was willing to pay for it. Credible studies shows that other owners drove players salaries up much more than mr steinbrenner, but the yankees are an easy target.

Mr steinbrenner made tons of money for every one in baseball. His BRONX BOMBERS are the best draw in baseball, putting fannies in the seats where ever they visit. I don't hear any belly aching when the baseball owners pockets the millions from mr steinbrenner's yankees.

Baseball has the most powerful union in professional sports. Hell will freeze over before there is a salary cap in baseball.
 

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sorry but ....one thing that i just can't seem to possibly understand about americans is how they remembered this man but don't talk about the fact that the stadiums built are used with the tax payers money (where do THE people who paid for this come in during all this?) and when people actually want to see the game, they jack up the prices how is that in anyway democratic ?? or for the people?? it has become a business of exploitation rather then an actual sport and i'm using baseball as an example but the business of sports in general has blown out of proportion these days especially when they are overpaying their players,etc.
 

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sorry but ....one thing that i just can't seem to possibly understand about americans is how they remembered this man but don't talk about the fact that the stadiums built are used with the tax payers money (where do THE people who paid for this come in during all this?) and when people actually want to see the game, they jack up the prices how is that in anyway democratic ?? or for the people?? it has become a business of exploitation rather then an actual sport and i'm using baseball as an example but the business of sports in general has blown out of proportion these days especially when they are overpaying their players,etc.

see my earlier post, above. why do people see more value in things, than they do, in people? George gave much, to charity, in secret.
 

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Mr steinbrenner made tons of money for every one in baseball. His BRONX BOMBERS are the best draw in baseball, putting fannies in the seats where ever they visit. I don't hear any belly aching when the baseball owners pockets the millions from mr steinbrenner's yankees.

So true. I've heard from friends who live in other states that say their home stadiums have more seats filled when the Yankees come to town. They are a big draw all over America.

Also, I went to a Yankee/Oreole's game with friends in Baltimore and I couldn't believe how many other Yankee fans were there (it was my first and only time seeing a game away from home). It was awesome...though my Baltimore friends weren't as thrilled, lol.
 
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sorry but ....one thing that i just can't seem to possibly understand about americans is how they remembered this man but don't talk about the fact that the stadiums built are used with the tax payers money (where do THE people who paid for this come in during all this?) and when people actually want to see the game, they jack up the prices how is that in anyway democratic ?? or for the people?? it has become a business of exploitation rather then an actual sport and i'm using baseball as an example but the business of sports in general has blown out of proportion these days especially when they are overpaying their players,etc.


The new yankee stadium was built with mr steinbrenner's money. NYC provided a few perks like a new subway station, extra parking etc. But know yankee stadium, was built with YANKEE MONEY. I admit that the majority of sports owners hold their cities hostage when it is time for a new stadium. Sports is fun and games, but it is a business too, and run like any other business.

Don't understand the massive resentment of players salaries. And the same people have zero problem with the pay checks of hollywood stars. The players make the big bucks, because the owners can afford to pay. The players are the talent. They should absolutely have their share of the profits too.

Love attending sporting events , and could care less about the salaries of the highly skilled athletes.
 

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i'm about to post an article, that i haven't fully read. there may be bad things in it, and if there are, i don't agree with them, as being truly bad things. in many ways, i compare him to Michael Jackson. he was charitable, and spent money on people...big money. he treated people like they had worth, instead of treating things better than people. he made the Yankees into winners, for those who like baseball. he made a statement, a lot like Michael. he said, that the Yankees are like the mona lisa. just like Michael said the Beatles catalogue is like a Picasso.

i just feel we lost the true meaning of living, and giving, and how to treat money, when we lost Michael and George. i'll forever miss them both. Steinbrenner is the reason i became a Yankees fan, even though i never lived, or don't live in New York. too bad we are left with the kinds of sports owners we have, today. here is the sports page article on my other hero, George:

Not all people, case in point Dave Winfield and Howie Spira, although the former is somewhat more forgiving.

I think your analogy is faulty. I consider Picasso's work to be degenerate art so let's say Rembrandt? The product of Michael's and Rembrand't's talent could be created irrespective of their wealth on a level playing field. All George did was throw more money from the Yankees' bottomless pockets at the talented free agents. He didn't create anything.

Michael forgot the value of a dollar later in life and wound up hundreds of millions of dollars in debt but I'd prefer not to say more on him in this thread.

I guess it isn't all Steinbrenner's fault, just his influence on the commissioner(s), that helped keep the unlevel playing field in baseball intact (unlike the NFL and the NBA) where small market teams like the Brewers and Royals perennially have little or no chance against the big-market spenders, personified by Steinbrenner.

Steinbrenner's loss loses for "you the true meaning of living"?:rolleyes:

Howie Spira, hired by George Steinbrenner to help smear Dave Winfield, still holds grudge
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Howie Spira (below) is one man who isn't mourning the death of New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

Howie Spira knows it is not polite to speak ill of the dead, and he tries to restrain his contempt for George Steinbrenner. He feels sorry for Steinbrenner's wife, kids and grandchildren, he says. You never want to wish terrible things on anyone, he adds blandly, like he's reading from a script.

But it doesn't take long for the bile in Spira's gut to boil over. Steinbrenner ruined his life, he says, and he's glad the Yankee owner will finally be accountable.

"I do not forgive him for all the terrible things he did to me," Spira said. "I stand by what I've said: He ruined my life, my health and my reputation.

"I'm very relieved that man has to face the most powerful test there is for what he has done. He has to face God. I wouldn't want to be George right now. And this time, he can't take Howard Rubenstein," Spira added, referring to Steinbrenner's longtime crisis management expert.

Spira is the gambler who received $40,000 from Steinbrenner to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield, the Hall of Fame outfielder dubbed "Mr. May" by The Boss after he failed to carry the team to a championship during the 1980s the way Reggie (Mr. October) Jackson had done in the 1970s.

In 1990, Major League Baseball commissioner Fay Vincent punished The Boss for his association with Spira by banning him from playing any role in the Yankees' day-to-day operations for 30 months.

Some fans believe Steinbrenner's banishment was the best thing to happen to the Yankees since Jackson's three home runs in the 1977 World Series. With the meddling and overbearing owner in exile, there was nobody ordering Yankee officials to field a team full of over-the-hill veterans, leaving general manager Gene Michael to build the Bernie Williams-Derek-Jeter-Mariano Rivera-Jorge Posada foundation of the team's recent championships.

Spira was an unpaid publicist for Winfield and his charity, the Dave Winfield Foundation, during the 1980s. He was also a gambler who found himself in a deep hole: He owed $100,000 to Mafia-connected bookies. He says he also owed money to Winfield - he had borrowed $15,000 from the player, who Spira says charged him outrageous interest rates.

When Winfield sued Steinbrenner in 1989 for failing to pay the Winfield Foundation the $300,000 guaranteed in the outfielder's contract, Spira figured he could solve his money woes by teaming up with the Yankee owner. He approached Steinbrenner and said he wanted $150,000, a job with his shipping company and a room in his Tampa hotel. In return, Spira said he could give him proof that Winfield had been squandering his foundation's money on trysts with girlfriends.

Eager for any dirt he could throw on Winfield, Steinbrenner paid Spira $40,000 (their arrangement was first reported in March of 1990 by the Daily News). Spira says he hectored Steinbrenner to fulfill the rest of their deal, but Steinbrenner called his repeated phone calls extortion.

According to Spira, the Yankee owner sicced his friends from the Tampa FBI office on the gambler from the Bronx. Spira wound up serving 22 months in federal prison for extortion.

Spira says he developed post-traumatic stress disorder after the FBI showed up at his home in the Bronx to execute a search warrant. He lives with his parents, relies on disability checks and Medicaid and suffers from a variety of maladies. "I literally throw up blood every day," he says.

Spira says he's tried to sell his life story, but authors, movie producers and TV executives have backed off because nobody wants to get on the wrong side of the New York Yankees.

"George made me out to be such a persona non grata," Spira said, "that people treat me like I am a terrorist or a mass murderer." Spira said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b..._dave_winfield_still_holds.html#ixzz0tnqabLlF
 

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So true. I've heard from friends who live in other states that say their home stadiums have more seats filled when the Yankees come to town. They are a big draw all over America.

Also, I went to a Yankee/Oreole's game with friends in Baltimore and I couldn't believe how many other Yankee fans were there (it was my first and only time seeing a game away from home). It was awesome...though my Baltimore friends weren't as thrilled, lol.


You don't know the half of it. Teams love having the NEW YORK YANKEES in town to fill the coffers, but get embarassed because more often than not yankee fans out number the home town fans. When the yankees are coming to town the BALTIMORE ORIOLES management pleas with their fans not to sell their tickets to yankee fans.
 

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Not all people, case in point Dave Winfield and Howie Spira, although the former is somewhat more forgiving.

I think your analogy is faulty. I consider Picasso's work to be degenerate art so let's say Rembrandt? The product of Michael's and Rembrand't's talent could be created irrespective of their wealth on a level playing field. All George did was throw more money from the Yankees' bottomless pockets at the talented free agents. He didn't create anything.

Michael forgot the value of a dollar later in life and wound up hundreds of millions of dollars in debt but I'd prefer not to say more on him in this thread.

I guess it isn't all Steinbrenner's fault, just his influence on the commissioner(s), that helped keep the unlevel playing field in baseball intact (unlike the NFL and the NBA) where small market teams like the Brewers and Royals perennially have little or no chance against the big-market spenders, personified by Steinbrenner.

Steinbrenner's loss loses for "you the true meaning of living"?:rolleyes:

Howie Spira, hired by George Steinbrenner to help smear Dave Winfield, still holds grudge
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Howie Spira (below) is one man who isn't mourning the death of New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

Howie Spira knows it is not polite to speak ill of the dead, and he tries to restrain his contempt for George Steinbrenner. He feels sorry for Steinbrenner's wife, kids and grandchildren, he says. You never want to wish terrible things on anyone, he adds blandly, like he's reading from a script.

But it doesn't take long for the bile in Spira's gut to boil over. Steinbrenner ruined his life, he says, and he's glad the Yankee owner will finally be accountable.

"I do not forgive him for all the terrible things he did to me," Spira said. "I stand by what I've said: He ruined my life, my health and my reputation.

"I'm very relieved that man has to face the most powerful test there is for what he has done. He has to face God. I wouldn't want to be George right now. And this time, he can't take Howard Rubenstein," Spira added, referring to Steinbrenner's longtime crisis management expert.

Spira is the gambler who received $40,000 from Steinbrenner to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield, the Hall of Fame outfielder dubbed "Mr. May" by The Boss after he failed to carry the team to a championship during the 1980s the way Reggie (Mr. October) Jackson had done in the 1970s.

In 1990, Major League Baseball commissioner Fay Vincent punished The Boss for his association with Spira by banning him from playing any role in the Yankees' day-to-day operations for 30 months.

Some fans believe Steinbrenner's banishment was the best thing to happen to the Yankees since Jackson's three home runs in the 1977 World Series. With the meddling and overbearing owner in exile, there was nobody ordering Yankee officials to field a team full of over-the-hill veterans, leaving general manager Gene Michael to build the Bernie Williams-Derek-Jeter-Mariano Rivera-Jorge Posada foundation of the team's recent championships.

Spira was an unpaid publicist for Winfield and his charity, the Dave Winfield Foundation, during the 1980s. He was also a gambler who found himself in a deep hole: He owed $100,000 to Mafia-connected bookies. He says he also owed money to Winfield - he had borrowed $15,000 from the player, who Spira says charged him outrageous interest rates.

When Winfield sued Steinbrenner in 1989 for failing to pay the Winfield Foundation the $300,000 guaranteed in the outfielder's contract, Spira figured he could solve his money woes by teaming up with the Yankee owner. He approached Steinbrenner and said he wanted $150,000, a job with his shipping company and a room in his Tampa hotel. In return, Spira said he could give him proof that Winfield had been squandering his foundation's money on trysts with girlfriends.

Eager for any dirt he could throw on Winfield, Steinbrenner paid Spira $40,000 (their arrangement was first reported in March of 1990 by the Daily News). Spira says he hectored Steinbrenner to fulfill the rest of their deal, but Steinbrenner called his repeated phone calls extortion.

According to Spira, the Yankee owner sicced his friends from the Tampa FBI office on the gambler from the Bronx. Spira wound up serving 22 months in federal prison for extortion.

Spira says he developed post-traumatic stress disorder after the FBI showed up at his home in the Bronx to execute a search warrant. He lives with his parents, relies on disability checks and Medicaid and suffers from a variety of maladies. "I literally throw up blood every day," he says.

Spira says he's tried to sell his life story, but authors, movie producers and TV executives have backed off because nobody wants to get on the wrong side of the New York Yankees.

"George made me out to be such a persona non grata," Spira said, "that people treat me like I am a terrorist or a mass murderer." Spira said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b..._dave_winfield_still_holds.html#ixzz0tnqabLlF


GEORGE M STEINBRENNER 111 numerous good deeds dwarfs the one or two mistakes he made. Mr steinbrenner admitted his mistake, kissed and made up with mr winfield. Today mr winfield is a happy and proud member of the yankee family. So what's your beef.???

Enough of the small market/big market whining. GEORGE STEINBRENNER bought the NEW YORK YANKEES. How is he responsible for the poor management of the ROYALS, PIRATES and others.? Small market teams stop pocketing the MILLIONS you get annually from steinbrenner's yankees and other big markets teams and invest the millions in your damn teams.

STEINBRENNER'S BRONX BOMBERS are good for baseball. When the yankees are numero uno, baseball is thriving making millions for every one. Today baseball is bigger, richer than ever,thanks in large part to GEORGE M STEINBRENNER.

Yankee fans get it.! we know yankee bashing is massive pinstripe envy.
 

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Not all people, case in point Dave Winfield and Howie Spira, although the former is somewhat more forgiving.

I think your analogy is faulty. I consider Picasso's work to be degenerate art so let's say Rembrandt? The product of Michael's and Rembrand't's talent could be created irrespective of their wealth on a level playing field. All George did was throw more money from the Yankees' bottomless pockets at the talented free agents. He didn't create anything.

Michael forgot the value of a dollar later in life and wound up hundreds of millions of dollars in debt but I'd prefer not to say more on him in this thread.

I guess it isn't all Steinbrenner's fault, just his influence on the commissioner(s), that helped keep the unlevel playing field in baseball intact (unlike the NFL and the NBA) where small market teams like the Brewers and Royals perennially have little or no chance against the big-market spenders, personified by Steinbrenner.

Steinbrenner's loss loses for "you the true meaning of living"?:rolleyes:

Howie Spira, hired by George Steinbrenner to help smear Dave Winfield, still holds grudge
600029e9.jpg

Howie Spira (below) is one man who isn't mourning the death of New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner.

Howie Spira knows it is not polite to speak ill of the dead, and he tries to restrain his contempt for George Steinbrenner. He feels sorry for Steinbrenner's wife, kids and grandchildren, he says. You never want to wish terrible things on anyone, he adds blandly, like he's reading from a script.

But it doesn't take long for the bile in Spira's gut to boil over. Steinbrenner ruined his life, he says, and he's glad the Yankee owner will finally be accountable.

"I do not forgive him for all the terrible things he did to me," Spira said. "I stand by what I've said: He ruined my life, my health and my reputation.

"I'm very relieved that man has to face the most powerful test there is for what he has done. He has to face God. I wouldn't want to be George right now. And this time, he can't take Howard Rubenstein," Spira added, referring to Steinbrenner's longtime crisis management expert.

Spira is the gambler who received $40,000 from Steinbrenner to dig up dirt on Dave Winfield, the Hall of Fame outfielder dubbed "Mr. May" by The Boss after he failed to carry the team to a championship during the 1980s the way Reggie (Mr. October) Jackson had done in the 1970s.

In 1990, Major League Baseball commissioner Fay Vincent punished The Boss for his association with Spira by banning him from playing any role in the Yankees' day-to-day operations for 30 months.

Some fans believe Steinbrenner's banishment was the best thing to happen to the Yankees since Jackson's three home runs in the 1977 World Series. With the meddling and overbearing owner in exile, there was nobody ordering Yankee officials to field a team full of over-the-hill veterans, leaving general manager Gene Michael to build the Bernie Williams-Derek-Jeter-Mariano Rivera-Jorge Posada foundation of the team's recent championships.

Spira was an unpaid publicist for Winfield and his charity, the Dave Winfield Foundation, during the 1980s. He was also a gambler who found himself in a deep hole: He owed $100,000 to Mafia-connected bookies. He says he also owed money to Winfield - he had borrowed $15,000 from the player, who Spira says charged him outrageous interest rates.

When Winfield sued Steinbrenner in 1989 for failing to pay the Winfield Foundation the $300,000 guaranteed in the outfielder's contract, Spira figured he could solve his money woes by teaming up with the Yankee owner. He approached Steinbrenner and said he wanted $150,000, a job with his shipping company and a room in his Tampa hotel. In return, Spira said he could give him proof that Winfield had been squandering his foundation's money on trysts with girlfriends.

Eager for any dirt he could throw on Winfield, Steinbrenner paid Spira $40,000 (their arrangement was first reported in March of 1990 by the Daily News). Spira says he hectored Steinbrenner to fulfill the rest of their deal, but Steinbrenner called his repeated phone calls extortion.

According to Spira, the Yankee owner sicced his friends from the Tampa FBI office on the gambler from the Bronx. Spira wound up serving 22 months in federal prison for extortion.

Spira says he developed post-traumatic stress disorder after the FBI showed up at his home in the Bronx to execute a search warrant. He lives with his parents, relies on disability checks and Medicaid and suffers from a variety of maladies. "I literally throw up blood every day," he says.

Spira says he's tried to sell his life story, but authors, movie producers and TV executives have backed off because nobody wants to get on the wrong side of the New York Yankees.

"George made me out to be such a persona non grata," Spira said, "that people treat me like I am a terrorist or a mass murderer." Spira said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b..._dave_winfield_still_holds.html#ixzz0tnqabLlF

well, you can't prove my analogy to be faulty by you going by reports of Michael's finances, as told by a lying media, while at the same time, everybody chased Michael to get him to perform, because they saw the dollar signs, and fifty concerts sold out in a depressed economy, where no one else had that ability. nor can you prove me wrong, when all networks do depend on the Yankees to keep them on the air. many teams had a farm system, but only Steinbrenner's willingness to invest in those people made the difference between the Yankees and other teams. you are always going to look for a chink, if you don't like something, but the overwhelming evidence really flies in the face of all your arguments.

there are two dominant teams in the nba, and both their owners were willing to pay over the luxury tax, more than the other teams. the lakers and the celtics. so the same basic principle, that i like, still applies. if small market team owners in mlb were like Steinbrenner, then there would be more teams like the Yankees. it's not the fault of Steinbrenner. the Royals have nobody to blame but themselves. and that is AFTER George had to give some of his money to that team, as well.

back to Michael. you say, MJ's success could be done by others on a level playing field..but MJ is the only one who did it. because 'he didn't know the value of a dollar'. and that is a good thing. everybody else who 'knows the value of a dollar' are too busy loving that dollar, to be successful, like Mike. the bigger the success..the bigger the target. and MJ was the only big target. and yet, his kids are still set. and i'm sure you prefer to believe the media, but MJ's kids being set, have nothing to do with what happened after his death. that was just added on, later.

back to Dave Winfield. he sucked, during the period that George gave him a hard time.. so, Steinbrenner let him know it. that's no different from the managers who sucked. when George arrived at a player or manager, who didn't suck, George stayed with him. Joe Torre will tell you that. and so will Derek Jeter. how else is it supposed to be?
 
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STEINBRENNER'S BRONX BOMBERS are good for baseball. When the yankees are numero uno, baseball is thriving making millions for every one. Today baseball is bigger, richer than ever,thanks in large part to GEORGE M STEINBRENNER.

Yankee fans get it.! we know yankee bashing is massive pinstripe envy.

well my point exactly.... if the "new york yankees" are making millions why aren't those millions being invested in trying to to help the city of the Bronx?? it has only become profitable for a small minority of the business i haven't seen any changes and hopes of trying to rebuild the bronx and yet people want to talk about how great and amazing they are? So if this is all true and they are getting alot of money they should be trying to help the community and not making everyone suffer by raising prices on this and that just because of a small bunch of corporate thieves
 

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well my point exactly.... if the "new york yankees" are making millions why aren't those millions being invested in trying to to help the city of the Bronx?? it has only become profitable for a small minority of the business i haven't seen any changes and hopes of trying to rebuild the bronx and yet people want to talk about how great and amazing they are? So if this is all true and they are getting alot of money they should be trying to help the community and not making everyone suffer by raising prices on this and that just because of a small bunch of corporate thieves



George Steinbrenner was the owner of the NY YANKEES not GOD or the mayor of NYC. You are definitely barking up the wrong tree. MR STEINBRENNER has done more for the BRONX than any politican. I dare you call the BRONX boro president RUBEN DIAZ JR or the mayor of NYC MIKE BLOOMBERG and ask them how GEORGE STEINBRENNER and his yankees helpes the BRONX community. Mr steinbrenner largest is not limited to the BRONX or NYC. When there is disaster any where like HAITI, NEW ORLEANS or the masacre on the campus at VIRGINIA TECH the NY YANKEES are always the first sports team with million dollar donations.

And while you are at it, check out what MR STEINBRENNER did for his hometown community TAMPA FLORIDA. I swear every building honors him for his extraordinary giving.
I told you before MR STEINBRENNER was not one of those greedy owners who pocketed all his profits.
 

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Can't stand the Yankees, the Boss and a lot of their fans. They use their deep pockets to get all the free agents. Always root against them and love it when they lose.

Why does anyone watch this crap anyway? Steinbrenner turned a blind eye to all the steroid cases on his team, A-rod, Clemens, Giambi, Petit, etc. The guy approved of these cheats. Boys and girls,, only cheats like what the Boss stands for.
 

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Can't stand the Yankees, the Boss and a lot of their fans. They use their deep pockets to get all the free agents. Always root against them and love it when they lose.

Why does anyone watch this crap anyway? Steinbrenner turned a blind eye to all the steroid cases on his team, A-rod, Clemens, Giambi, Petit, etc. The guy approved of these cheats. Boys and girls,, only cheats like what the Boss stands for.

So you are the face of massive pinestripe envy, eh? Damn proud yankee fan here.!!!!!
 
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