I know this question has been asked before probably but was Tatiana and Michael together?

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Please don't get upset with me for asking but i never seen the answer to this question were they really together? Did Michael love her and why was she fired? Did Michael want her to be fired could he have stopped it? Or what was up with that?
 

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Fired from what? All I knew was she was in one of Michaels music videos. Nothing more, nothing less. Im sure they liked each other, but I doubt they had some kind of off-camera relationship.. If they did, it must have been brief... What would she have been fired from? Did she work for Michael?
 

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From what i know they were friends.. she was in the TWUMMF video and I believe did tour dates with him as well. One night on stage she kissed him during the performance of the song and after that MJ began acting strangely towards her, probably because she made things awkward. Shortly after that she was replaced on tour.

Someone else feel free to come in and correct me if I'm wrong or fill in the gaps.
 

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Well, According to Tatiana, they were.....

From her book 'The Way He Made Me Feel':
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In 1987 I signed with a new agency, Joseph, Heldfond and Rix, at the time a fairly powerful group. Julie, my agent, sent me on an audition for a Michael Jackson video, "The Way You Make Me Feel." I wasn't told, though, whose video this was for. But I discovered later that two hundred other hopeful young actresses tested for that part.
When they called me, I was told to walk and show some attitude. The scene took place on a street in a rough area. A bunch of guys start hassling the character I was reading for, taunting her with lines like. "Hey baby, what's up?"

Coincidentally, the very same thing had happened to me as I was on my way to the audition. Some guys had hassled me on the street, so you might say I was prepared. I ran through the scene a few times, and my audition was put on videotape.
A few days later I was summoned to a small dress rehearsal. It was the first time I learned that the video was with Michael Jackson. I was brought into a room by the video's choreographer, Vince Patterson. Michael was there but I was too shy to even look at him at first. Patterson directed me to go through some moves, which I followed perfectly. Finally I glanced up at Michael. He was sitting there in a red shirt, bopping to the music with this big, happy grin on his face. I saw him turn to the person next to him and say something. I later found out from David Banks, one of the video's writers, that Michael had said, "She's the one. The rest are extras."

I will never forget when my agent called to tell me that I had the job. I screamed so loud that all of Hollywood must have heard me. It was such a milestone accomplishment for me. I felt like I had finally made it, and my career would soon be taking off.
The shoot lasted five days, with the fifth day devoted to outtakes and close-ups of me. By the second day the ice was broken between Michael and me. It happened in the middle of a scene where was chasing me, and I was supposed to run through a broken-down, beat-up car in the middle of a street. My dress was so tight that in order to cross to the other side of the car to get out, I had to turn around. During one take, in the process of turning, my high-heeled boot got caught in the upholstery, and I couldn't get it out. Michael put his hand on my calf and then on my upper thigh to help pull me out. I got a little overheated, I guess, and lost it. I fell out of the car, landing on my butt. We both cracked up as he wiped my butt off. Then we looked into each other's eyes for a moment. After that a warm and friendly connection started to develop between the two of us. As we waited around on the set in the days after that scene, Michael began asking me questions about my life. A few times he was a little flirtatious, like when he told me I had an incredible walk. I said, "Well, it's just a walk." He looked at me and smiled. "No, you have a very sexy walk."

Not long after the video production was over, Michael's stand-in, Craig, who had become a friend of mine, called and said, "You know, Michael talks about you all the time. He asks me how you are and told me to tell you hello. I think he really likes you. He says stuff like how incredibly beautiful you are and how sweet you are."
Craig suggested that I come by and visit the set of another video Michael was shooting. I thought it was a great idea, so Craig asked Michael, and a few days later I was invited to drop by the set. It was fun being there and seeing Michael again. He showed me around the set, and then I watched the filming and had something to eat with him and his manager in his trailer. At the end of the day I realized I didn't have a ride home. Still a recent transplant from New York, I didn't drive yet. The cab to the studio had cost more than I had expected, and I didn't have enough cash for a cab home. Craig pushed me to ask Michael for a ride.
Too shy to go to Michael directly, I explained my situation to Miko Brando, Marlon Brando's son and Michael's right-hand man, and asked if he could lend me a few bucks or give me a ride. Miko offered to check it out with Michael but thought it would be no problem to give me a ride in the limo. A few minutes later I was on my way home, sitting next to Michael in his black stretch Mercedes, which Miko was driving. At first Michael seemed nervous and jittery like a kid. We talked a lot, mostly about our families. At one point we were sort of holding hands. When he dropped me off, I thanked him and said I hoped to see him again.
He said, "Oh, you will."

Shortly after that I was hired to go on Michael's Bad tour to perform the sketch from the video live in Kansas City and New York. If it worked out, there were to be more appearances in other cities on the tour. Naturally I was thrilled to be working with M.J. again.

We did the Kansas City shows and then arrived in New York where we had three dates at Madison Square Garden. I had an idea for the end of the performance that I thought would improve the piece. After Michael's hot, intense pursuit of the girl I played, all he did at the end was give me a hug. It was kind of a letdown for the audience. People would come up to me and say, "If Michael is so much in love with this girl, why does he just give her a hug at the end?" (that's what 1 of my friends said! )
I wanted to discuss this problem with Michael and ask him if it would be all right to give him a kiss instead of just the hug at the end. But during the busy tour I was not able to see him or speak to him except when we were actually onstage performing. So on the second night of the performance, at the end of the hug, I reached up and gave him a little kiss on the cheek. The crowd went ballistic, Michael seemed surprised, but he smiled. Afterward nothing was said by any of his handlers except the usual "Great show."
The next day was the last day I was scheduled to perform, and I called Michael's secretary to ask her if I could talk to him. She gave me his number but told me not to keep him on the phone for too long because he was very tired. I reached him and thanked him for giving me the opportunity to work with him. I also said that I hoped my little kiss did not throw him off.

Michael assured me that the kiss was okay. "Can I take it a step further tonight?" I asked him. "Yeah, that would be great." He said. I thanked him again and hung up.
I was very nervous that final night as I got onstage. I kept questioning whether or not I should really kiss him. I knew the crowd would love it. But I was also under the impression, both from my time with Michael and from what others in the production company had told me, that Michael had a crush on me. I had sensed it from our eye contact, from gestures, from hugs, from sweet little things he said or did.
We got to the end of the act, and I was standing in front of him. My hands were on his collar and I was looking right into his eyes. He had this very sexy look on his face. He bit his lip. I pulled myself forward, toward him, and he put both of his hands on my hips. We embraced, and then kissed each other full on the lips. The crowd freaked out. I pranced off the stage, and Michael went on singing and laughing, entertaining with more life in his voice than I had ever heard before.

When I got backstage, all of the dancers congratulated me on how great the show was and how happy Michael seemed to be. I loved the wonderful response to the show. But for me it was more than just a performance. I really liked him, and I knew that he liked me, too. I felt there was something there between us.
 

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I'm such a hater but I don't care. **pout**

MJ seemed like the type to take things sllllllooooowwwww. He described himself as a gentleman, u know? And he was mad shy. She probably moved a little too fast for him and he put on the breaks. He let her go after that kiss if I'm not mistaken.
 

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So they both felt something...but didn't take it further? How sad.
 

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My hands were on his collar and I was looking right into his eyes. He had this very sexy look on his face. He bit his lip. I pulled myself forward, toward him, and he put both of his hands on my hips. We embraced, and then kissed each other full on the lips. The crowd freaked out. I pranced off the stage, and Michael went on singing and laughing, entertaining with more life in his voice than I had ever heard before.

Ah... Such a turn on... Wow...
 

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Poor girl, she was head over heels for him. I mean it's fricking Michael Jackson! But I don't think he had such a big connection with her to actually make her his girlfriend. It was just flirting in my opinion.
 

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From what i know they were friends.. she was in the TWUMMF video and I believe did tour dates with him as well. One night on stage she kissed him during the performance of the song and after that MJ began acting strangely towards her, probably because she made things awkward. Shortly after that she was replaced on tour.

Someone else feel free to come in and correct me if I'm wrong or fill in the gaps.

you are correct this is the same information that I knew also..:)
 

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Poor girl, she was head over heels for him. I mean it's fricking Michael Jackson! But I don't think he had such a big connection with her to actually make her his girlfriend. It was just flirting in my opinion.

Poor girl, she was totally for it, and he was kind of luke-warm. But i get strong sensationalist vibes off this story though
 

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Poor girl, she was head over heels for him. I mean it's fricking Michael Jackson! But I don't think he had such a big connection with her to actually make her his girlfriend. It was just flirting in my opinion.


Sheeeeeet. I'd be head over heels for him too! Lord he was hot then, gorgeous smile, beautiful eyes, that sexy speaking voice, so polite and sweet and cute and hell he was Michael Jackson! But I'm telling you he doesn't seem like the type to dig on these fast girls... not saying she WAS fast but to MJ that kiss was probably fast.
 

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Poor girl, she was head over heels for him. I mean it's fricking Michael Jackson! But I don't think he had such a big connection with her to actually make her his girlfriend. It was just flirting in my opinion.

Michael was a hardcore tease.
 

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Well, According to Tatiana, they were.....

From her book 'The Way He Made Me Feel':
tatiana_bookcover-thumb.jpg


In 1987 I signed with a new agency, Joseph, Heldfond and Rix, at the time a fairly powerful group. Julie, my agent, sent me on an audition for a Michael Jackson video, "The Way You Make Me Feel." I wasn't told, though, whose video this was for. But I discovered later that two hundred other hopeful young actresses tested for that part.
When they called me, I was told to walk and show some attitude. The scene took place on a street in a rough area. A bunch of guys start hassling the character I was reading for, taunting her with lines like. "Hey baby, what's up?"

Coincidentally, the very same thing had happened to me as I was on my way to the audition. Some guys had hassled me on the street, so you might say I was prepared. I ran through the scene a few times, and my audition was put on videotape.
A few days later I was summoned to a small dress rehearsal. It was the first time I learned that the video was with Michael Jackson. I was brought into a room by the video's choreographer, Vince Patterson. Michael was there but I was too shy to even look at him at first. Patterson directed me to go through some moves, which I followed perfectly. Finally I glanced up at Michael. He was sitting there in a red shirt, bopping to the music with this big, happy grin on his face. I saw him turn to the person next to him and say something. I later found out from David Banks, one of the video's writers, that Michael had said, "She's the one. The rest are extras."

I will never forget when my agent called to tell me that I had the job. I screamed so loud that all of Hollywood must have heard me. It was such a milestone accomplishment for me. I felt like I had finally made it, and my career would soon be taking off.
The shoot lasted five days, with the fifth day devoted to outtakes and close-ups of me. By the second day the ice was broken between Michael and me. It happened in the middle of a scene where was chasing me, and I was supposed to run through a broken-down, beat-up car in the middle of a street. My dress was so tight that in order to cross to the other side of the car to get out, I had to turn around. During one take, in the process of turning, my high-heeled boot got caught in the upholstery, and I couldn't get it out. Michael put his hand on my calf and then on my upper thigh to help pull me out. I got a little overheated, I guess, and lost it. I fell out of the car, landing on my butt. We both cracked up as he wiped my butt off. Then we looked into each other's eyes for a moment. After that a warm and friendly connection started to develop between the two of us. As we waited around on the set in the days after that scene, Michael began asking me questions about my life. A few times he was a little flirtatious, like when he told me I had an incredible walk. I said, "Well, it's just a walk." He looked at me and smiled. "No, you have a very sexy walk."

Not long after the video production was over, Michael's stand-in, Craig, who had become a friend of mine, called and said, "You know, Michael talks about you all the time. He asks me how you are and told me to tell you hello. I think he really likes you. He says stuff like how incredibly beautiful you are and how sweet you are."
Craig suggested that I come by and visit the set of another video Michael was shooting. I thought it was a great idea, so Craig asked Michael, and a few days later I was invited to drop by the set. It was fun being there and seeing Michael again. He showed me around the set, and then I watched the filming and had something to eat with him and his manager in his trailer. At the end of the day I realized I didn't have a ride home. Still a recent transplant from New York, I didn't drive yet. The cab to the studio had cost more than I had expected, and I didn't have enough cash for a cab home. Craig pushed me to ask Michael for a ride.
Too shy to go to Michael directly, I explained my situation to Miko Brando, Marlon Brando's son and Michael's right-hand man, and asked if he could lend me a few bucks or give me a ride. Miko offered to check it out with Michael but thought it would be no problem to give me a ride in the limo. A few minutes later I was on my way home, sitting next to Michael in his black stretch Mercedes, which Miko was driving. At first Michael seemed nervous and jittery like a kid. We talked a lot, mostly about our families. At one point we were sort of holding hands. When he dropped me off, I thanked him and said I hoped to see him again.
He said, "Oh, you will."

Shortly after that I was hired to go on Michael's Bad tour to perform the sketch from the video live in Kansas City and New York. If it worked out, there were to be more appearances in other cities on the tour. Naturally I was thrilled to be working with M.J. again.

We did the Kansas City shows and then arrived in New York where we had three dates at Madison Square Garden. I had an idea for the end of the performance that I thought would improve the piece. After Michael's hot, intense pursuit of the girl I played, all he did at the end was give me a hug. It was kind of a letdown for the audience. People would come up to me and say, "If Michael is so much in love with this girl, why does he just give her a hug at the end?" (that's what 1 of my friends said! )
I wanted to discuss this problem with Michael and ask him if it would be all right to give him a kiss instead of just the hug at the end. But during the busy tour I was not able to see him or speak to him except when we were actually onstage performing. So on the second night of the performance, at the end of the hug, I reached up and gave him a little kiss on the cheek. The crowd went ballistic, Michael seemed surprised, but he smiled. Afterward nothing was said by any of his handlers except the usual "Great show."
The next day was the last day I was scheduled to perform, and I called Michael's secretary to ask her if I could talk to him. She gave me his number but told me not to keep him on the phone for too long because he was very tired. I reached him and thanked him for giving me the opportunity to work with him. I also said that I hoped my little kiss did not throw him off.

Michael assured me that the kiss was okay. "Can I take it a step further tonight?" I asked him. "Yeah, that would be great." He said. I thanked him again and hung up.
I was very nervous that final night as I got onstage. I kept questioning whether or not I should really kiss him. I knew the crowd would love it. But I was also under the impression, both from my time with Michael and from what others in the production company had told me, that Michael had a crush on me. I had sensed it from our eye contact, from gestures, from hugs, from sweet little things he said or did.
We got to the end of the act, and I was standing in front of him. My hands were on his collar and I was looking right into his eyes. He had this very sexy look on his face. He bit his lip. I pulled myself forward, toward him, and he put both of his hands on my hips. We embraced, and then kissed each other full on the lips. The crowd freaked out. I pranced off the stage, and Michael went on singing and laughing, entertaining with more life in his voice than I had ever heard before.

When I got backstage, all of the dancers congratulated me on how great the show was and how happy Michael seemed to be. I loved the wonderful response to the show. But for me it was more than just a performance. I really liked him, and I knew that he liked me, too. I felt there was something there between us.

I say pull her hair out.....grrrr..I know i too am a hater....Oh well oonly when it comes to Michael and my husband. Poooorr Michael..:(
 

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Sheeeeeet. I'd be head over heels for him too! Lord he was hot then, gorgeous smile, beautiful eyes, that sexy speaking voice, so polite and sweet and cute and hell he was Michael Jackson! But I'm telling you he doesn't seem like the type to dig on these fast girls... not saying she WAS fast but to MJ that kiss was probably fast.

You aren't lying!! I would be like that even up to now, when he was much older, and i'm only 19 lol.
 
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She has a point. I always felt like the hug at the end of TWYMMF was anti-climactic. They build up so much sexual tension during the number that it feels like it should end with a kiss.
 

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Even in the video it was kinda a let down.. especially after MJs humping the floor and looking like he about to rip up some ...

... then they just hug in front of the fire hydrant? Definitely a let down. But I think if MJ went around kissing all the girls in his videos the female fans woulda been up in arms! LOL!
 

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Haha, anti-climax.
He probably caught on with this though, because he actually kisses Iman in Remember the Time and that Girl in You Rock my World.
 

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I think Michael probably liked her very much but you remember Dirty Diana... and Billy Jean, He already knew not to get involved with someone like her...Im sure she is very nice and all but she was just a model..and I dont even know if she was educated...Any other star would have taken advantage of her and used her, but Michael wouldnt do that and he probably realized there was no real future with her, he could only be with someone he absolutley knew he could trust....Also letting her go, could have also been budgeting, I mean she didnt do anything but walk across the stage...to give someone a pay check and pay for lodging and travel is not worth it in the end.

although, when I saw Mike in the Bad concert I was very disappointed he did not use her for that part in the show...I dont remember who they got, I think just one of the female musicains or someone, but it wasnt anyone that hot...she just made one pass and that was it...I wished that he had Tatianna.
 

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although, when I saw Mike in the Bad concert I was very disappointed he did not use her for that part in the show...I dont remember who they got, I think just one of the female musicains or someone, but it wasnt anyone that hot...she just made one pass and that was it...I wished that he had Tatianna.


Sheryl Crow, I think.
 

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I'm such a hater but I don't care. **pout**

MJ seemed like the type to take things sllllllooooowwwww. He described himself as a gentleman, u know? And he was mad shy. She probably moved a little too fast for him and he put on the breaks. He let her go after that kiss if I'm not mistaken.
Really? So far I've heard Frank Dileo (MJ's then-manager) was responsible for firing her...
Poor girl, she was head over heels for him. I mean it's fricking Michael Jackson! But I don't think he had such a big connection with her to actually make her his girlfriend. It was just flirting in my opinion.
Well, we never know...if it was just flirting and being friendly or it was part of the gradual process of what coulda been:) The period during both of them working together was so brief that we'll never know. It's a lovely story as it is:wub:

As far as I know, she never badmouthed him...right?
 

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Two words spring to mind when reading the exerpt from her book: WISHFUL THINKING! then again, I guess none of us will ever know if or when or what happened between them, if anything at all
 

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Really? So far I've heard Frank Dileo (MJ's then-manager) was responsible for firing her...

Why was this kiss such a big deal that she had to be fired? Especially if Michael agreed to it.

Maybe Frank thought it's better to keep people guessing about MJ's sexuality? Not that a kiss would have changed anything about those guessings, I think.

Or maybe it was Michael who was uncomfortable about it after all, just couldn't say it in Tatiana's eyes.
 
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