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Which episode Michael prince in MJ cast interview he talked about song craze
 

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Lotfi11k said:
Can you tell me which minute they talked about craze because the episode long
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I can't remember, but he doesn't exactly talk about the song though, he ends up finding the song while he was searching for the GYWOOM file in his computer and says it's around 6 minutes long.
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Somebody’s gotta chat with MP again and ask him about this one. Very curious about it. I’m assuming it’s an Invincible outtake, given that it was in a folder with other tracks from that era.
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Someone should also ask him about the 3rd song that MJ finished at the Bel Air Hotel in 2008, he said that I Was The Loser and Best Of Joy was 2 of the 3 songs but he never says what the 3rd song it is.
 

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If it's from a seminar in 2019 - I find it almost impossible that no one has ever said anything about hearing it...

Why say it now? I am not very sure I believe it. - I would think more fans would have mentioned it if they had heard a full unreleased MJ song...
 

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ChanceToDance said:
I can't remember, but he doesn't exactly talk about the song though, he ends up finding the song while he was searching for the GYWOOM file in his computer and says it's around 6 minutes long.

Someone should also ask him about the 3rd song that MJ finished at the Bel Air Hotel in 2008, he said that I Was The Loser and Best Of Joy was 2 of the 3 songs but he never says what the 3rd song it is.
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Maybe it was For All Time.
 

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Matt Forger just confirmed on The MJ Cast that MJ likely recorded a guide vocal for “Groove of Midnight” during the Bad sessions. Given that such a demo couldn’t be located for Bad 25, does this mean that it’s not in the estate’s possession?
 

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AlwaysThere said:
Matt Forger just confirmed on The MJ Cast that MJ likely recorded a guide vocal for “Groove of Midnight” during the Bad sessions. Given that such a demo couldn’t be located for Bad 25, does this mean that it’s not in the estate’s possession?
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I haven't listened to the episode yet, is it good mate? Does he reveal ant new info about unreleased material?
 

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AlwaysThere said:
Matt Forger just confirmed on The MJ Cast that MJ likely recorded a guide vocal for “Groove of Midnight” during the Bad sessions. Given that such a demo couldn’t be located for Bad 25, does this mean that it’s not in the estate’s possession?
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U mean groove of midnight exist ? My English not perfect can u help me
 

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To surmise the Matt Forger interview (highly recommended) for those who haven't yet listened:

Rod Temperton presented Groove of Midnight to MJ during the Bad sessions. Michael wasn't particularly fond of the track, but may have recorded a guide vocal. Matt wasn't sure if he recorded a full lead vocal, which is why it may not have been available for Bad 25.

Temperton expressed to Forger that Michael didn't seem interested in hearing his song ideas for the Bad album. Quincy encouraged MJ to write his own songs for the album, a challenge that Michael took to heart. Temperton didn't present any more ideas to Michael for the album.

From what I remember, another piece of information gained from the interview is that Dirty Diana was initially worked on straight after the completion of Centipede for Rebbie Jackson in 1984.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but MJ worked on the song Tomboy with a guitarist (cannot remember his name). MJ wasn't a fan of the track, and gifted the instrumental to the guitarist, who used it on his next album.
 

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robotchicken14 said:
To surmise the Matt Forger interview (highly recommended) for those who haven't yet listened:

Rod Temperton presented Groove of Midnight to MJ during the Bad sessions. Michael wasn't particularly fond of the track, but may have recorded a guide vocal. Matt wasn't sure if he recorded a full lead vocal, which is why it may not have been available for Bad 25.

Temperton expressed to Forger that Michael didn't seem interested in hearing his song ideas for the Bad album. Quincy encouraged MJ to write his own songs for the album, a challenge that Michael took to heart. Temperton didn't present any more ideas to Michael for the album.

From what I remember, another piece of information gained from the interview is that Dirty Diana was initially worked on straight after the completion of Centipede for Rebbie Jackson in 1984.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but MJ worked on the song Tomboy with a guitarist (cannot remember his name). MJ wasn't a fan of the track, and gifted the instrumental to the guitarist, who used it on his next album.
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Roger Troutman. So what is the instrumental that was on the next album? I'll have to find out. It must be on the Roger album released in 1987, Unlimited! But which track?
 

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robotchicken14 said:
To surmise the Matt Forger interview (highly recommended) for those who haven't yet listened:

Rod Temperton presented Groove of Midnight to MJ during the Bad sessions. Michael wasn't particularly fond of the track, but may have recorded a guide vocal. Matt wasn't sure if he recorded a full lead vocal, which is why it may not have been available for Bad 25.

Temperton expressed to Forger that Michael didn't seem interested in hearing his song ideas for the Bad album. Quincy encouraged MJ to write his own songs for the album, a challenge that Michael took to heart. Temperton didn't present any more ideas to Michael for the album.

From what I remember, another piece of information gained from the interview is that Dirty Diana was initially worked on straight after the completion of Centipede for Rebbie Jackson in 1984.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but MJ worked on the song Tomboy with a guitarist (cannot remember his name). MJ wasn't a fan of the track, and gifted the instrumental to the guitarist, who used it on his next album.
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So tomboy did not have any vocals
 

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Derek1984 said:
Roger Troutman. So what is the instrumental that was on the next album? I'll have to find out. It must be on the Roger album released in 1987, Unlimited! But which track?
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The melody is reminiscent of Remember The Time, the "I know you remember" melody according to John Barnes
 

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Derek1984 said:
Roger Troutman. So what is the instrumental that was on the next album? I'll have to find out. It must be on the Roger album released in 1987, Unlimited! But which track?
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In order to find it, search for a track that (according to certain descriptions) has similar melodic elements to the 'Ghosts' and 'Remember The Time' songs.
 

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Ekam Satyam - MJ & AR RAHMAN (INDIAN)

THIS SONG IS ALSO UNRELEASED, ITS A LOW TEMPO SONG, AND I GUESS ITS COMPLETE

WHERE MJ IS SINGING IN ENGLISH AND RAHMAN IS SINGING IN SANSKRIT
Ekam means "the one", Satyam means "truth".... So this song might be about MJ's innocence... But I guess it is complete...

 

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Lotfi11k said:
So tomboy did not have any vocals
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I don't think Forger specified whether or not there were vocals, only that MJ wasn't happy with the track and gave it away.

Derek1984 said:
Roger Troutman. So what is the instrumental that was on the next album? I'll have to find out. It must be on the Roger album released in 1987, Unlimited! But which track?
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Yeah, Roger Troutman, thanks. Currently listening to Roger's 'Unlimited!' to investigate
 
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