Martin Bashir playing with Michael? :/

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If any other parent did that on the balcony would they be investigated by children services? Ask yourselves that.

I got this memory in my head since re-reading about the balcony in another thread on this forum...
My own father used to play with me as if I was an airplane at some balcony, and I was just old enough to realise there was something wrong... I can still feel the disappointment and "violence" I felt towards him in the minutes after... When I say I "violence" here I mean it as a reaction to a threat from someone who shouldn't be a threat to you and thoughts like "What the **** did you just do to me? What are you thinking?".
All he got was a remark from my mother... we're not famous.

When I saw MJ's balcony thing... Which I don't remember that clearly, I just though he was distracted, somehow goofy, but enthusiastic to show his baby to his fans...

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I'm actually reading this thread because I wanted to ask a question regarding Bashir's documentary.
In the documentary we see Michael behaving weirdly with Gavin... But now that I re-watch some images I wonder... was it actually
the other way around?

But what I was wondering right now was, do we see that woman (at 4:01 in the video) leaning on Michael in the documentary? I don't remember it well enough. And who is he?
 
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Ok, well, the 2005 accusations were that part of the story I knew the less about... but this complete documentary (which i posted video #2 in previous thread) was quite interesting and relevant to this thread.
I just realised that if I write this post as I initially thought, it will get emptied but to "Promotion policy violation."
So here are just references: Title "La Historia no Contada de Neverland" (it's in English but most versions I can have with Spanish titles and subtitles) by Larry Nimer.

It includes some Bashir's outtakes... which hint that most likely Bashir made Michael think that his documentary be somewhat different...
 

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Ok, well, the 2005 accusations were that part of the story I knew the less about... but this complete documentary (which i posted video #2 in previous thread) was quite interesting and relevant to this thread.
I just realised that if I write this post as I initially thought, it will get emptied but to "Promotion policy violation."
So here are just references: Title "La Historia no Contada de Neverland" (it's in English but most versions I can have with Spanish titles and subtitles) by Larry Nimer.

It includes some Bashir's outtakes... which hint that most likely Bashir made Michael think that his documentary be somewhat different...

I'm not sure you understand what the promotion policy is. You can post a YouTube video:

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Since you're a new member you should read the board rules: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ty-Board-Rules-and-Posting-Guidelines-Updated
 

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I'm not sure you understand what the promotion policy is. You can post a YouTube video:

Yeah I must say I got a bit confused as I was not promoting anything but I was posting a link that was relevant to a thread, but then it's got removed, because it was from a MJ-dedicated blog? That's what I understood. Then, rule 22 also suggests citing sources...

Here for the video(s), instead of posting 5 links, I wanted to post a link to another related blogpost. Then I thought no. Then the whole video as a single link on YouTube but noticed it was on the account of an MJ "fan clubs". So I thought "maybe no" again... Then I went for posting without links.
 

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Yeah I must say I got a bit confused as I was not promoting anything but I was posting a link that was relevant to a thread, but then it's got removed, because it was from a MJ-dedicated blog? That's what I understood. Then, rule 22 also suggests citing sources...

Here for the video(s), instead of posting 5 links, I wanted to post a link to another related blogpost. Then I thought no. Then the whole video as a single link on YouTube but noticed it was on the account of an MJ "fan clubs". So I thought "maybe no" again... Then I went for posting without links.
If you want to post some content from another MJ fan site you can source with the name of the site, just no links or promotion. Feel free to pm me if you have more questions.
 

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Well yeah. Jumped before been pushed. The investigation result is supposedly due soon. Bbc claim its cause of his health.not like they will say any difference. This is the guy who supposed to have had a brain tumour for the last 20 years!??
 

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It’s official.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Martin Bashir &#39;deceived and induced&#39; Princess Diana&#39;s brother to get bombshell Panorama interview, BBC report finds <a href="https://t.co/Ca2rNl8s3n">https://t.co/Ca2rNl8s3n</a></p>&mdash; Sky News (@SkyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1395367481322180616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Martin Bashir 'deceived and induced' Princess Diana's brother to get bombshell Panorama interview, BBC report finds

The former BBC reporter has said forging bank statements was a "stupid thing to do" and "an action I deeply regret".

https://news.sky.com/story/martin-b...-panorama-interview-bbc-report-finds-12311864

Martin Bashir: Inquiry criticises BBC over 'deceitful' Diana interview

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57189371

Princess Diana: What is the Martin Bashir interview row all about?

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-57163815
 

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Michael tried to get people to see how underhanded Martin Bashir was, but most refused to believe him.
 

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Michael tried to get people to see how underhanded Martin Bashir was, but most refused to believe him.
Indeed. Even though the Take 2 special - which drew high ratings - came with several receipts, they largely just ignored all of it.
 

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I came here to vent about this whole 'Bashir unfaired Princess Di'.

I read one article that tracked Bashir's career. When talking about the documentary, the writer referenced Michael's 'ardent fans' that decried its bias. But then the writer tacked on that the LN doc more than proved the legitimacy LWMJ. As EW says, the media is not yet ready to look at Michael and how he was treated in a new way. I hope that day will come soon.
 

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They use such proven false hit pieces to justify their hatred and bias towards mj. Its their "excuse"
 

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How many years ago was this? ALL PARENTS make mistakes, the ONLY difference was MJ made mistake in PULBIC. My mom was sitting by and I took a doll and stuck in the OPEN FIREPLACE and went running with it when I was 5 years. So again, All parents are guilty even the parents who act self righteous and judge about MJ about what he did. I had one relative who went on & on about MJ making that mistake in 2002 and I had to remind her she let TWO KIDS stay at home ALONE while she went to the CLUB to party. She got mad with me but I had to show her "if a camera was running to catch what she did in the 80's, she would be judged as well. It shut her up.
Wow. Leaving your kids alone in the house to go to a Club and party is bad. We're the Kids young and close in age or were they significantly far apart in age like one was about 13 years apart? Because leaving two young kids who are like 5 and 7 alone to go party in a Club is REALLY, really, REALLY, bad, but leaving say a 13 and a baby alone isn't TOO bad as some 13 year olds are already Parents and can be a Babysitter. I do remember a Husband being LIVID that his Wife left their 7 year old Son asleep to go run to the grocery store and was gone for about 30 minutes. Repliers were LIVID with her too because they felt a 7 year old was too old to be left alone. Another Poster ACTUALLY defended her saying something like,"I grew up in the 70's and my Mother would leave me alone for a quick run to the grocery store at around age 7. I was a mature 7 year old and knew better than to turn on the stove or open the door for strangers, so it wasn't all that bad. If the 7 year old is mature, a quick run to the grocery store isn't all that bad....
 

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If only jordan chandler would come out
Jordan Chandler already came out and admitted his Dad, Evan Chandler put him up to claim that Michael touched him inappropriately as a scam to get money from Michael. . He recalls that Michael DIDN'T touch him inappropriately at all during his stay at Neverland Ranch.. I also recall that Evan drugged Jordan with a dental anesthesia substance that gave false memories. Too bad Jordan came out after Michael was already dead, not before. The sad thing is, Jordan was already an ADULT when Michael died. He could have and should have come forward when Michael was still alive.
 
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