Michael Jackson’s Halloween - New animated special coming this fall

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Learn to accept other people's opinion. Not everyone is going to like it.

His opinion might have been accepted, if it wasn't for the;

Unnecessary (unfunny) GIF.
The unnecessary bolded and enlarged terrible.

The unnecessary "shit" and "$3" comments that came before it had even been seen in full.

It's not other people's opinions I mind. It's people being overly critical and negative - with childish GIFs and language - before and after the event.

This particular one could be seen a mile off. It doesn't look like someone's favourite 'Finding Nemo' or 'Toy Story' film, so "it's shit".

What's wrong with a bit of balance, instead of the oft used hyperbole we get from some on here?
 

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5.6 million is a great number! Congrats MJ estate for getting a POSITIVE MJ thing on TV! First of many let's hope!
 

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Great numbers. Especially with the World Series and the highly anticipated 'Stranger Things Series 2' that everyone was worried about!
 

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WTF only 13 million viewers for the World Series? Is that normal?


MJ's was the highest rated non sport program of the night. That's nice.

That's great news. Do we know how many streams stranger things got??
 

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My family and I enjoyed it, even the 13 year old. I have watched it twice and saw some things the second time that I missed the first viewing. It's on CBS.com if anyone missed it. Hopefully it will be shown in future years also. The good ratings were a pleasant surprise considering that it was up against the World Series.
 

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WTF only 13 million viewers for the World Series? Is that normal?


MJ's was the highest rated non sport program of the night. That's nice.

Darn, it was the second most watched show on that time slot! Great.

Where and what is Stranger Danger? I did not see it anywhere.
 

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Great numbers. Especially with the World Series and the highly anticipated 'Stranger Things Series 2' that everyone was worried about!

I did not see Stranger Series anywhere when watching the shows on that time slot. Word Series #1 and MJ #2. No "Stranger".
 

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His opinion might have been accepted, if it wasn't for the;

Unnecessary (unfunny) GIF.
The unnecessary bolded and enlarged terrible.

The unnecessary "shit" and "$3" comments that came before it had even been seen in full.

It's not other people's opinions I mind. It's people being overly critical and negative - with childish GIFs and language - before and after the event.

This particular one could be seen a mile off. It doesn't look like someone's favourite 'Finding Nemo' or 'Toy Story' film, so "it's shit".

What's wrong with a bit of balance, instead of the oft used hyperbole we get from some on here?

I agree. I think this "Historic" is one of those fans that are historically negative about everything the Estate comes up with. How about being grateful and happy that MJ's estate is doing a great job in promulgating his legacy.
 

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I thought it was alright, but could've been much better. The concept itself, the premise of the story, and the character models were all great. The voice acting was also fine. Animation, however, was poor even for a TV film but I think it can be overlooked if everything else was on point. What was most jarring to me, however, was the ridiculous and misplaced use of Michael's music that made absolutely no sense at all except for Thriller (which was predictable) and maybe one other song or two. Using pieces of Michael's music as transitional cues and background music was a terrible idea. It completely degrades Michael's catalogue.

I find both HIStoric and SmoothMJ make good pints even though they both disagree. But personally I think it was a good idea with poor execution. The script was downright silly with no consistent story arcs or character development. In retrospect, I would think that something in the vein of the 'Ghosts' short film or even 'Moonwalker' would have worked better, where you have an interesting story that is interspersed with musical numbers rather than stuffing it to the brim with segments of over two dozen songs. I don't even think we heard a full song besides Thriller. The overuse of 'Xscape', 'Torture', and 'Somebody's watching Me' didn't even make any sense to me (not to mention they're not even official MJ songs).

I'm not quite sure what to make of it but I had high expectations for something with a bit more substance..
 

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Just watched it...

Not very impressed I must admit.

The music seems like it's just thrown in without any thoughts to when and why... - Nice with MJ music of course, but it was just very random whenever a song came...

Animation was not great and the story was very very thin...

I hope children will enjoy it - and adult of course... But it looked like a school project thrown together on a single week without much thought...
 

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Also, learn to accept that everyone is not going to accept or agree with your opinion. It works both ways. That's life!
 

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I hate the fact that he was a mute... he didn't have any lines.

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I don't know if we can really complain about this given the fact that Michael isn't here. Unless you want a situation where he sounds like Chef on his last episode of South Park where they (deliberately) mashed all his lines up ... which would be distracting :p

Even Michael's one line in the film felt off (especially audio quality wise), but I mean it's not something you can hold against them.
 

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I thought it was alright, but could've been much better. The concept itself, the premise of the story, and the character models were all great. The voice acting was also fine. Animation, however, was poor even for a TV film but I think it can be overlooked if everything else was on point. What was most jarring to me, however, was the ridiculous and misplaced use of Michael's music that made absolutely no sense at all except for Thriller (which was predictable) and maybe one other song or two. Using pieces of Michael's music as transitional cues and background music was a terrible idea. It completely degrades Michael's catalogue.

I find both HIStoric and SmoothMJ make good pints even though they both disagree. But personally I think it was a good idea with poor execution. The script was downright silly with no consistent story arcs or character development. In retrospect, I would think that something in the vein of the 'Ghosts' short film or even 'Moonwalker' would have worked better, where you have an interesting story that is interspersed with musical numbers rather than stuffing it to the brim with segments of over two dozen songs. I don't even think we heard a full song besides Thriller. The overuse of 'Xscape', 'Torture', and 'Somebody's watching Me' didn't even make any sense to me (not to mention they're not even official MJ songs).

I'm not quite sure what to make of it but I had high expectations for something with a bit more substance..

Of course, it could have been better. No one is saying that the special was perfect. I think it served its purpose as a HALLOWEEN special with Michael's music as the soundtrack. Some people were going to find something wrong , even if it had been "perfect".
 

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Did you put your 'funny' little GIF on there as well, just to get across how "terrible" it was?


Haha yep, because it works wonderfully.

Like Jesus dude why are you so triggered? Honestly it's someone's opinion, get over it hahaha.
 

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Just watched it...

Not very impressed I must admit.

The music seems like it's just thrown in without any thoughts to when and why... - Nice with MJ music of course, but it was just very random whenever a song came...

Animation was not great and the story was very very thin...

I hope children will enjoy it - and adult of course... But it looked like a school project thrown together on a single week without much thought...

I enjoyed it and I am a GROWN woman.
 

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I did not see Stranger Series anywhere when watching the shows on that time slot. Word Series #1 and MJ #2. No "Stranger".

That's because Stranger Things doesn't air on traditional television. It airs on Netflix, it's basically the biggest show of the world's biggest streaming service.


I agree. I think this "Historic" is one of those fans that are historically negative about everything the Estate comes up with. How about being grateful and happy that MJ's estate is doing a great job in promulgating his legacy.

It's always embarrassing when someone who doesn't know who they're talking about waltzes in and talks like they do know who or what they're talking about, and in this case that person is you Tricia! Like it's actually quite shallow of you to think I dislike everything the Estate does because I'm critical of one project.

Anyone who's seen me post for a while (which isn't hard, I'm reasonably active on here) would know I'm actually quite Pro-Estate. I think the only projects by the Estate I've rather disliked are the Michael project and the Pitbull remix of Bad. Everything else I've either quite enjoyed (This Is It, Vision, Bad 25, Xscape, Immortal, MJ One) or simply don't really care for (OTW Doco, Scream album). Hell go see the Scream thread, I'm pretty defensive in there.

I think on the whole the Estate are doing an excellent job of keeping Michael Jackson's legacy going. However I'm not going to praise them for producing something terrible just because it's a great idea poorly executed or it has Michael's name on it. What kind of low standard is that? No, I'm going to praise them when they do a good job and criticise them when they do a crap job. That's how I treat everything I enjoy. The Michael Jackson Estate and brand name are not exempt from criticism.
 
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It’s hard to believe what some people post. It’s a fricken cartoon. They did a decent job what do people expect geez. I guess I’m done for a while I’m too old to read about nit picking a cartoon it’s for kids for god sakes. See you all when a new project comes up.
 

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Smooth72;4210404 said:
It’s hard to believe what some people post. It’s a fricken cartoon. They did a decent job what do people expect geez. I guess I’m done for a while I’m too old to read about nit picking a cartoon it’s for kids for god sakes. See you all when a new project comes up.

I agree that some people can be overly critical regardless of the quality. However, in my opinion, just because its animated doesn't mean it doesn't have to live up to any kind of standard of quality right? I also don't agree with the argument that because something is aimed at a younger demographic that it doesn't have to be a quality product. Many of the best works of art from film and music to books and games are aimed at a younger demographic or for all ages and yet they maintain a certain level of artistic merit and integrity. With regards to this show specifically, I felt that they did a great job with the design, the voice acting, and many other aspects of the production. However, the script was very poor. And it's easily noticeable. It's why you can watch a 3 hour movie and stay engaged yet watch a 2 hour movie and come out of it clueless. I think if it had a solid script and everything else was poor, I could have given it a pass, given the limited budget. But the script was weak, and the one thing it had going for it, the music..was very poorly utilized. It's like someone was just skipping through an iTunes playlist the whole time. I usually try to see the best in any piece of work and stay positive as I know a lot of work usually goes into these kinds of things but at the same time, I have to agree with HIStoric. Just because the estate slapped MJ's name on it doesn't mean it's automatically a great product. As a matter of fact, same with MJ. The reason his albums have stood the test of time is because they were good, pure and simple, even if you had no idea who MJ was.
 
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