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I'm not sure 'happy' is the word I'd use. I feel sick to the stomach at the thought of all of the business flying around the name 'Michael Jackson' right now. If it's done with love and by people who actually care then it wouldn't be an issue. I thought the Opus looked great until I heard about all of the problems and the broken promises (whatever happened to the augmented reality video stuff?!?). But at least that was a beautiful product. And I went to the launch, it was done with love and care.

Look at The Beatles Anthology series that came out in 1997. That was done with care and attention.

Look at the Elvis releases in 2002, the 25th anniversary of his death releases. Done with love and care. I worked on some of those releases - the people in charge of those projects LOVED Elvis. One of them was on the board of directors of Gracelands.

Then look at this release. Michael Jackson isn't Usher! He is The Beatles, but more so. He is Elvis, but more so. And it's a complete shambles.

Thanks for you reply. People are also against any new MJ album, and I just wanted to know where you stand on that subject alone.

Opus is beautiful, and the MJ dance games that are out now, are out at the right time. Michael has gotten a lot of young and new fans. In maybe ten or twenty years from now, Michael will also have beautiful projects like Elvis and the Beatles have had years after they were gone. Right now, for Michael, who is the biggest artist the world will ever see, it is too many people who want to have control, have a say, make wrong right and right wrong, that it is difficult to understand it all.

The album artwork on the cover is one of the most beautiful artworks I have seen. The original, which has more people and symbols in it due to agreements and copyrights, are even more great. I am happy they had Jackie Jackson and illustrator Kadir Nelson working on it together. It's beautiful.
 

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I know how a business works thank you very much. I have my own.

I've also worked in the music industry for a number of years. So I'm WELL AWARE how record companies work.

Sony could have chosen to release DYKWYCA, Slave To The Rhythm and Place With No Name instead of the bogus Cascio tracks. They chose not to do that. They chose to supplement original Michael Jackson songs with bogus songs performed by an impersonator.

That's not how most businesses operate. Hence the ill feeling.


None of those songs are marketable in 2010. If you believe so, you're highly mistaken, anyone between the age of 13-28, that isn't an avid Michael fan, isn't going to listen to DYKWYCA, or Place With No Name at a party, or a club. This isn't the 90's, that stuff is no longer profitable to be released to a mainstream audience, whether you like it or not, that's the fact of the matter. Impersonator or not, they included the songs because they're the few that have a modern feel to them. Blue Gangsta would've been okay if this was released in 2005, after 06' the music market took a turn, a turn for the worst.

They didn't release this album for hardcore Michael fans, they released it with the intentions that it'd be something not only his fans but non-fans also can enjoy. Do I agree with their tracklist decision? No, but I can understand why they did it.

But, since you seem to have a business, in the music industry, unless I misunderstood. How about you take these named songs, pass it around to your colleagues, ask them how marketable they'd be in modern times. And come back with the truthful results.
 

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you're no fun anymore!

I'm not even going to apologize for this because I just have to say it and you have to read this.
I've been around for some years now and always enjoyed this community until the last couple of weeks. I'm more of a reader than a talker, but JESUS! you guys need to grow up! This constant nagging about the cascio tracks, the authenticity of the vocals....Or wether the community should split or not...every single day! JESUS! Get a life! Get an appartment of your own! Live a life!

And all these fans who want 'Michael' to be an album that can compete with his best albums (I even heard someone say on this forum that Michael is a better album than Off the Wall...you have got to be kiddeing me...seriously...), they want it to break all records and top every chart worldwide. Well, there probably isn't one song completely finished by The Man himself so deal with the fact that there are only demotakes out there and they are not going to sell 20 million copies anymore...so make up your f**g mind! This is the only way the estate (the ones that gonna bring you several FAKE albums to you the next coming years) is able to come close to big salesnumbers.

Either way it's an album that Michael would have loved! A BIG DRAMA created by his fans and everybody talking about it!
My advice? Enjoy the album! And skip the songs you don't like!
 

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I'm not even going to apologize for this because I just have to say it and you have to read this.
I've been around for some years now and always enjoyed this community until the last couple of weeks. I'm more of a reader than a talker, but JESUS! you guys need to grow up! This constant nagging about the cascio tracks, the authenticity of the vocals....Or wether the community should split or not...every single day! JESUS! Get a life! Get an appartment of your own! Live a life!

And all these fans who want 'Michael' to be an album that can compete with his best albums (I even heard someone say on this forum that Michael is a better album than Off the Wall...you have got to be kiddeing me...seriously...), they want it to break all records and top every chart worldwide. Well, there probably isn't one song completely finished by The Man himself so deal with the fact that there are only demotakes out there and they are not going to sell 20 million copies anymore...so make up your f**g mind! This is the only way the estate (the ones that gonna bring you several FAKE albums to you the next coming years) is able to come close to big salesnumbers.

Either way it's an album that Michael would have loved! A BIG DRAMA created by his fans and everybody talking about it!
My advice? Enjoy the album! And skip the songs you don't like!

i'll just answer this site rule breaking post with this..

you don't know what Michael would have loved. you're not a mind reader. you're going to have to get over yourself. the god complex has to stop. nobody knows what other people think. NOBODY.

stop playing the role of museum curator and radio programmer. stop preaching to people how to feel, and what to like, and what to enjoy. allow people to have minds of their own.
 
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Re: you're no fun anymore!

i'll just answer this site rule breaking post with this..

you don't know what Michael would have loved. you're not a mind reader. you're going to have to get over yourself. the god complex has to stop. nobody knows what other people think. NOBODY.

stop playing the role of museum curator and radio programmer. stop preaching to people how to feel, and what to like, and what to enjoy. allow people to have minds of their own.

Thank you..I'd give you rep a 100 times if I could for this post!
 

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The problem is that every leaked MJ song we have heard has clear vocals and are generally better songs then the Cascio ones.............

...........The lyrics are definitely Michael's........although Breaking News very unusual.....

...........The problem is that after all the processing and then the Melodyne.........

...........The vocals are now so mashed up that I am asking myself...........


...........Should they be still considered Michael's vocals when so much editing has been done????
 

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None of those songs are marketable in 2010. If you believe so, you're highly mistaken, anyone between the age of 13-28, that isn't an avid Michael fan, *isn't going to listen to DYKWYCA, or Place With No Name at a party, or a club. This isn't the 90's, that stuff is no longer profitable to be released to a mainstream audience, whether you like it or not, that's the fact of the matter. Impersonator or not, they included the songs because they're the few that have a modern feel to them. Blue Gangsta would've been okay if this was released in 2005, after 06' the music market took a turn, a turn for the worst.*

Let me get this straight, you're telling me that Michael Jackson is not salesworthy in 2010 but a Michael Jackson imposter is? You're saying this with a straight face? Not only do I beg to disagree but, also, I find that a completely outrageous, nay, insulting statement.

Any of the songs i've mentioned could've been worked on to give them a modern sound.*

They didn't release this album for hardcore Michael fans, they released it with the intentions that it'd be something not only his fans but non-fans also can enjoy. Do I agree with their tracklist decision? No, but I can understand why they did it.

Hence 50 Cent rapping with an imitator. You can applaud that if you want to. As far as I'm concerned Michael Jackson earned his Throne with blood, sweat and tears.

Hiring an impersonator and adding the ridiculous 50 ('I don't know what you heard about me, but I'm a muthafucking P.I.M.P.)' Cent is an abomination. Trying to raise Michael from the dead to compete with Justin Bieber and Usher is NOT what I'd wish for his legacy. You do? Well I hope you enjoy it. I don't.*

Michael Jackson is the Mozart of modern music. And he should be revered as such. And his legacy should be managed as such.

But, since you seem to have a business, in the music industry, unless I misunderstood. How about you take these named songs, pass it around to your colleagues, ask them how marketable they'd be in modern times. And come back with the truthful results.


Yes. You've completely misunderstood. But I didn't expect anything else. Maybe you'd have understood had you tried not to be so condescending. Most of my friends respect music. They couldn't give a toss about sales or revenue. They care about art and the artists. They care about integrity and legacy. They'd understand that Michael Jackson singing a song like DYKWYCA, a song about child abuse, with a profound message, would be much more legitimate and much more worthy of the*man compared to the hiring of an imposter singing, 'Mamma say mamma got you in a zig zag'.

But what do I know, right?*
 

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Let me get this straight, you're telling me that Michael Jackson is not salesworthy in 2010 but a Michael Jackson imposter is? You're saying this with a straight face? Not only do I beg to disagree but, also, I find that a completely outrageous, nay, insulting statement.

Any of the songs i've mentioned could've been worked on to give them a modern sound.*



Hence 50 Cent rapping with an imitator. You can applaud that if you want to. As far as I'm concerned Michael Jackson earned his Throne with blood, sweat and tears.

Hiring an impersonator and adding the ridiculous 50 ('I don't know what you heard about me, but I'm a muthafucking P.I.M.P.)' Cent is an abomination. Trying to raise Michael from the dead to compete with Justin Bieber and Usher is NOT what I'd wish for his legacy. You do? Well I hope you enjoy it. I don't.*

Michael Jackson is the Mozart of modern music. And he should be revered as such. And his legacy should be managed as such.




Yes. You've completely misunderstood. But I didn't expect anything else. Maybe you'd have understood had you tried not to be so condescending. Most of my friends respect music. They couldn't give a toss about sales or revenue. They care about art and the artists. They care about integrity and legacy. They'd understand that Michael Jackson singing a song like DYKWYCA, a song about child abuse, with a profound message, would be much more legitimate and much more worthy of the*man compared to the hiring of an imposter singing, 'Mamma say mamma got you in a zig zag'.

But what do I know, right?*


You can continue with the insults all you like, at the end of the day, it'll only get you permanently banned.

As far as your first point of this post, you obviously didn't even read the post and just proceeded to insult my intelligence, way to go. Anyway, did I say Michael isn't profitable in 2010? I don't think I did, I said his song content, and the tune of the songs you mentioned aren't profitable in 2010, because it's not. You still have 0% of proof that it isn't Michael on some of these records, so it's rather comical that you keep speaking of an "imposter". The songs you mentioned could have been worked on for a modern sound, but at the end of day, would you be satisfied with the work that would have to be done to the songs for that to occur? I doubt you would.

Also, did I "applaud" anything they've done? I don't think I did, in fact, I think in my last post I said specifically, "do I agree with what they did? No, but I understand why it was done." What does 50 Cent have to do with this, also? You're saying it's a slap in the face of Michael's legacy that he's even on this album, but you fail to realize he was only added to appeal to the Hip-Hop audience. So I guess Michael flushed his legacy down the toilet by including both Heavy D and Notorious BIG on Dangerous, and then on Invincible. It's hypocritical you blame the Estate/Sony for doing such a thing, when Michael usually pulled the biggest names in Hip-Hop at the time to be featured on his records.


Alright, so you admit you and your friends don't care about revenue? You just contradicted yourself, by saying "businesses don't do that", in reference to the material included. But the sole purpose of a business is to garner revenue, is it not? DYKWYCA wouldn't garner much revenue in 2010, it's a song that should be heard, and paid attention to, and it should be played to the masses, but the reality of it is, it'll never be a hit. It's not a song the mainstream public would particularly be interested in listening to. You really fail to understand how the music industry and labels work today.
 

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God you really are desperate to get me banned aren't you? Rather revealing, that. Almost as if you're desperate for me to be silenced.

The Cascio songs are completely fraudulent. You can bury your head in the sand all you want, I know what I'm listening to. And it's not what Teddy Riley's listening to, that's for sure.

I fail to understand how labels work today? Of course. Labels that are prepared to hire imposters to flesh out legitimate content is way beyond my comprehension. If that's how labels work, I'm glad that I don't 'understand' that.

The sole purpose of a business is to garner revenue in good faith. Not to break the law in an effort to garner revenue.
 

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Well, i would just like to say congrats to the people who ruined this album, it is falling from the charts now, and hasn't sold anywhere near the amount that the This Is It CD did despite only having 1 new song.
Thankyou fans and Cascio bashers alike, all of which who forget that the Estate signed with SONY and could have signed to anyone else, but of course, that doesn't matter. As long as you got your word in.

BN shouldn't have been included on the album because it's more James than it is Michael. and just cuz you dislike 3 tracks you don't buy the album? Wow epic fail, i only like 4 songs on Thriller yet i bought it TWICE.

So please continue tearing the board apart with your opinions that no one cares to hear. Freedom of speech has it's perks doesn't it?

PHEW i needed to vent
 

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Let's be realistic here; any shortcomings in sales is not down to half the hardcore fanbase campaigning on the internet, it's likely down to lack of promotion. After all, who's going to take any notice of 'loons'?
 

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I don't understand why fans are blaming fellow fans for the slow start of this album. The album does not meet fan expectation becasue, first, fans set their expectations way to high. Some fans anticipate a new MJ era and even compare this album to Michael's unparalleled past works. Second, there is no hit single thus far. HMH is a decent song, but the song does nothing to launch the album. Third, promotion of this album is nowhere near the level This Is It had. Forth, how can this album sells like a hot cake when the album itself is a half baked cake? Even the stronger songs, such as Hollywood Tonight and Another Day, sound half complete with looped verse and chorus.

Who else can sell so many albums in a similar situation? Only Michael Jackson. This album proves once again that the name Michael Jackson sells.

This album is a let down. When I saw This Is It last year, I could feel the care and attention Kenny Ortega put into the film. The film is well done. When I read the Opus, I saw a beautifully put together coffe table book that is worthy enough to be a family heirloom. I just don't see the same amount of care and thought are being put into the album. This album is a calculated attempt from Sony and the Estate to appeal to today's music world.
 

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God you really are desperate to get me banned aren't you? Rather revealing, that. Almost as if you're desperate for me to be silenced.

The Cascio songs are completely fraudulent. You can bury your head in the sand all you want, I know what I'm listening to. And it's not what Teddy Riley's listening to, that's for sure.

I fail to understand how labels work today? Of course. Labels that are prepared to hire imposters to flesh out legitimate content is way beyond my comprehension. If that's how labels work, I'm glad that I don't 'understand' that.

The sole purpose of a business is to garner revenue in good faith. Not to break the law in an effort to garner revenue.


Lol what? So people start businesses to get in the hearts of their consumers? That's asinine.


This Is It also had a full feature film to help benefit it's sales.
 

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I don't understand why fans are blaming fellow fans for the slow start of this album. The album does not meet fan expectation becasue, first, fans set their expectations way to high. Some fans anticipate a new MJ era and even compare this album to Michael's unparalleled past works. Second, there is no hit single thus far. HMH is a decent song, but the song does nothing to launch the album. Third, promotion of this album is nowhere near the level This Is It had. Forth, how can this album sells like a hot cake when the album itself is a half baked cake? Even the stronger songs, such as Hollywood Tonight and Another Day, sound half complete with looped verse and chorus.

Who else can sell so many albums in a similar situation? Only Michael Jackson. This album proves once again that the name Michael Jackson sells.

This album is a let down. When I saw This Is It last year, I could feel the care and attention Kenny Ortega put into the film. The film is well done. When I read the Opus, I saw a beautifully put together coffe table book that is worthy enough to be a family heirloom. I just don't see the same amount of care and thought are being put into the album. This album is a calculated attempt from Sony and the Estate to appeal to today's music world.

The bolded, thank you for that!!! Maybe now, those who are in charge will recognize that the fan's interests are to be taken into account, when they are planning the next album. I hope they understand fully, all the issues that caused the album's slow start.
 

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Let me get this straight, you're telling me that Michael Jackson is not salesworthy in 2010 but a Michael Jackson imposter is? You're saying this with a straight face? Not only do I beg to disagree but, also, I find that a completely outrageous, nay, insulting statement.

Any of the songs i've mentioned could've been worked on to give them a modern sound.*



Hence 50 Cent rapping with an imitator. You can applaud that if you want to. As far as I'm concerned Michael Jackson earned his Throne with blood, sweat and tears.

Hiring an impersonator and adding the ridiculous 50 ('I don't know what you heard about me, but I'm a muthafucking P.I.M.P.)' Cent is an abomination. Trying to raise Michael from the dead to compete with Justin Bieber and Usher is NOT what I'd wish for his legacy. You do? Well I hope you enjoy it. I don't.*

Michael Jackson is the Mozart of modern music. And he should be revered as such. And his legacy should be managed as such.




Yes. You've completely misunderstood. But I didn't expect anything else. Maybe you'd have understood had you tried not to be so condescending. Most of my friends respect music. They couldn't give a toss about sales or revenue. They care about art and the artists. They care about integrity and legacy. They'd understand that Michael Jackson singing a song like DYKWYCA, a song about child abuse, with a profound message, would be much more legitimate and much more worthy of the*man compared to the hiring of an imposter singing, 'Mamma say mamma got you in a zig zag'.

But what do I know, right?*


DYKWYCA and Slave to the Rythym to be honest are only hot to the fan base. This is why Monster was released instead. Those tracks are decent. Not what you call HOT

No matter whats released sales will be 225,000 to 300,000 in the USA

Even in 2001 Invincible sold 335,000 1st week in the US. Thats the range or a little under
 

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^ I prefer Michael Jackson singing about the horrors of child abuse over Jason Malachi singing about 'mamma say mamma got you in a zigzag'. But maybe that's just me...
 

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Lol what? So people start businesses to get in the hearts of their consumers? That's asinine.


This Is It also had a full feature film to help benefit it's sales.

Maybe you didn't read my post properly. Businesses operate in order to garner profits IN GOOD FAITH. Is that clearer. Ie. Legally.

And if they don't, they're not businesses. They're rackets.
 

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DYKWYCA and Slave to the Rythym to be honest are only hot to the fan base. This is why Monster was released instead. Those tracks are decent. Not what you call HOT

No matter whats released sales will be 225,000 to 300,000 in the USA

Even in 2001 Invincible sold 335,000 1st week in the US. Thats the range or a little under

Oh wow... not only are you going against what my ears tell me, but the trend in modern pop and even hip hop as of roughly 2007 has been a steady trend to more of a dance based mixed-genre. Do You Know Where Your Children are doesn't fall into this category as such, but you're in major denial to say that Monster is a better song then Slave to the Rhythm as it slots beautifully in this category. It's an upbeat song that showcases the real Michael Jackson singing at his best. I was beyond happiness when I realized I could remove Breaking News and the other two Cascio demos and burn myself a copy of the album with 3 leaked legitimate songs.

There would be more reasons as to why it wasn't included on the album instead of Monster. The biggest of which I can think of on the top of my head is this: Sony wouldn't want to exhaust all the best material in the first release. Mark my words that they give us a new release every 2 years for the foreseeable future, which EVERY major label would do and they would prefer to give us a couple (1 or 2) GREAT songs and have fillers to make up the bulk of the album.

I for one would have loved Sony/The Estate to really put their weight behind ONE major release. I don't care how long they took to put it together but make it a proper tribute to our idol.

I'm sure if the intention of releasing such an album may even sway the likes of Will.I.Am to change his stance on a posthumous release. Releasing albums with maybe a dash of brilliance in a sea of mediocrity will only work to turn off fans, and dilute Michael's genius which WILL be noticed by the next generation.

As much as people love as much Michael Jackson as they can get, would you prefer 20 average, half arsed albums with a sprinkling of genius... or ONE proper album, dedicated in being as close to a real Michael Jackson album as possible? - as if he were here putting it together.

They could have taken the input of many more people connected to Michael over the years. Include members of his family to give ideas, let his kids be heard on what they think - invite producers Michael has worked with and others that haven't but are well respected to listen and give their views on the music. Your response may be that this process will be long winded and many ideas will conflict with each other HOWEVER, they will be able to get a better understanding of a broader view of the album and show a higher level of care in delivering something worthy of a proper release.

Anyway, i'm waffling but you get the general idea. Thanks.
 

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Sorry to sound ignorant, but when people refer to the Cascio tracks, do they mean tracks produced by them or written/performed by them?
 

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Sorry to sound ignorant, but when people refer to the Cascio tracks, do they mean tracks produced by them or written/performed by them?

People are meaning the tacks that MJ (?) recorded in the Cascio's basement studio in 2007 while he was in their house for four months.
 

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The Cascio's songs are not finished products. They are not ready to be released by a professional, let alone Michael Jackson. Heck, his 70's songs are better recorded than the Cascio's tracks. Even Michael doesn't sound like himself. No wonderful vocals or adlibs are there. He sounds like an average singer, and we know he ain't.
 

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I wonder why no one ever took Michael's own words into consideration regarding these three recordings. He always said he was working on new music, during his years of being inactive, he also said he wasn't ready for any of that music to be released or to bring himself back into the spotlight, in terms of performing. Maybe this is why, I feel he was working on music, but he just wasn't himself yet, he still had to get over what was done to him in the previous years. It took a toll on him, mentally and physically, I'm confident this is Michael, but Michael at say 65-70%, listening to the recordings compared to Shout, WMCIG, We've Had Enough, and even Invincible, he sounds uninterested. Funny people can say they hear Michael in these records, but that he's not all the way there, also funny how no one took his physical state at the time into consideration.
 

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What happened to the thread, about us hiring our own expert to analyze Breaking News?
 

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I wonder why no one ever took Michael's own words into consideration regarding these three recordings. He always said he was working on new music, during his years of being inactive, he also said he wasn't ready for any of that music to be released or to bring himself back into the spotlight, in terms of performing. Maybe this is why, I feel he was working on music, but he just wasn't himself yet, he still had to get over what was done to him in the previous years. It took a toll on him, mentally and physically, I'm confident this is Michael, but Michael at say 65-70%, listening to the recordings compared to Shout, WMCIG, We've Had Enough, and even Invincible, he sounds uninterested. Funny people can say they hear Michael in these records, but that he's not all the way there, also funny how no one took his physical state at the time into consideration.

I hear you Annie. Michael was one incredible human being. A lesser man would not have survived the turmoils he went through. He suffered an unspeakable amount of pain.

It's totally understandable that Michael was not his full self during the 2007 recording sessions. He was still recovering mentally and physcially. Then, the question to the Estate is why they insisted in releasing demos that they know damn well Michael was not 100% in and do not meet Michael's standard? There are more than enough songs for them to pick from.

Actually, most fans are considerate. I can argue that the vocals on Hollywood Tonight and The Way You Love Me are not Michael's best. But, I don't see fans complaining about the quality of vocals of those two songs. We understand those two songs are not completed by Michael. We accept songs like Hollywood Tonight, TWYLM and Another Day becasue we hear Michael's voice in them. The songs are genuine Michael Jackson tracks.

Well, I also understand Sony and the Estate need to market this album to the mainstream market. They might think Monster and Breaking News add the mordern sound to the album. However, their decision to include tracks with questionable vocals toke away goodwill from fans.
 

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The Cascio's songs are not finished products. They are not ready to be released by a professional, let alone Michael Jackson. Heck, his 70's songs are better recorded than the Cascio's tracks. Even Michael doesn't sound like himself. No wonderful vocals or adlibs are there. He sounds like an average singer, and we know he ain't.

Well Said... Ill admit I got the album because I wanted to have the tracks that are Michael but the album overall is not all of that.. It doesnt do anything to his legacy but it damn sure doesnt help it. I dont consider this to be a Michael Jackson album because Michael was not involved. The best song worth while on the album by far is Much to Soon.. very beautiful.
 

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DYKWYCA and Slave to the Rythym to be honest are only hot to the fan base. This is why Monster was released instead. Those tracks are decent. Not what you call HOT

No matter whats released sales will be 225,000 to 300,000 in the USA

Even in 2001 Invincible sold 335,000 1st week in the US. Thats the range or a little under

Honestly, I don't care what is "hot" and what is "not hot", because quality acts and musicians tend to be not hot these days while overproduced teen pop without anything to say tends to be the "hot" thing. I don't care if MJ doesn't fit in this trend (actaully I think the songs which Sony obviously intended to make "trendy", those are the weakest songs of the album IMO). Most of the artists who are "hot" today won't even be remembered in 5-10 years time.
 
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