MJ Estate Sues Howard Mann and business partner Henry Vaccaro - Settlement reached

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

The Estate must say publicly that the Jacksons morons want to steal the money of the MJ kids with their porns friends and vultures.

If the MJ kids don't know that, they will follow the morons.

Too Bad for them.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

Throwing stone and hiding there hand behind there back,
Latoya say Katherine was good at doing that.
In her book "Growing up Jackson"


She sure did.. LaToya knows how her mother is, and now we all do. Her son is dead and she's associating with a porn producer and getting MJ's kids involved in the whole sordid mess. What loving grandmother does that kind of thing?
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

She sure did.. LaToya knows how her mother is, and now we all do. Her son is dead and she's associating with a porn producer and getting MJ's kids involved in the whole sordid mess. What loving grandmother does that kind of thing?
I also can't believe that she would sign such a LOPSIDED contract with anybody. That contract doesn't really benefit her. If there is any real money to be made (which I now doubt), Howard Mann will be the one reaping those rewards, not Katherine Jackson.

This whole thing is just further confirmation that Katherine Jackson has no business sense, and has learned NOTHING from the Korean fiasco. They continue to do things for the moment, without any regard for any long-term liabilities.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

I also can't believe that she would sign such a LOPSIDED contract with anybody. That contract doesn't really benefit her. If there is any real money to be made (which I now doubt), Howard Mann will be the one reaping those rewards, not Katherine Jackson.

This whole thing is just further confirmation that Katherine Jackson has no business sense, and has learned NOTHING from the Korean fiasco. They continue to do things for the moment, without any regard for any long-term liabilities.

Seeing all this really does put what Priscilla Presley did in perspective. You could never say most of what she was did didn't benefit Elvis or Lisa Marie.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

Throwing stone and hiding there hand behind there back,
Latoya say Katherine was good at doing that.
In her book "Growing up Jackson"
really??...Latoya sure does know her own mother doesn't she....Mrs Katherine sure can be a sneaky one...wow...smh
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

really??...Latoya sure does know her own mother doesn't she....Mrs Katherine sure can be a sneaky one...wow...smh

yes she does... I kind of wish MJ saw his mother in the true light. I bet if he had known what she was capable of he would not have ever left his kids with her.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

Does anybody know how much money changed hands between Joe, Katherine and Jermaine, when the Korean deal FIRST went down?

I'm "guessing" that each of them were paid a certain amount of money, individually and not a lump sum that they just divided amongst themselves.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

yes she does... I kind of wish MJ saw his mother in the true light. I bet if he had known what she was capable of he would not have ever left his kids with her.

That's for sure..but then again she had him so fooled...he probably never would of seen through that mask of hers. ..He trusted her and look at what is transpiring...so so sad.
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

Does anybody know how much money changed hands between Joe, Katherine and Jermaine, when the Korean deal FIRST went down?

I'm "guessing" that each of them were paid a certain amount of money, individually and not a lump sum that they just divided amongst themselves.

Koreans gave Jackson's money and stuff worth $5.5 million. Later they sued Jacksons for the advances. Michael settled with them for undisclosed amount and Koreans got a judgement for $4 Million against Katherine, Joe and Jermaine. Today with interest that amount came to $13.6 million.
 

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wth is this???

"The Man doing business with Katherine Jackson wants a lawsuit tossed out of court because, he claims, the King of Pop did not invent 'The Smooth Criminal' lean -- the world famous anti-gravity dance move.

EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: 'The Smooth Criminal' Legal Papers

"That 'lean' pose in question was NOT invented by, or first introduced to audiences by, Michael Jackson," lawyers for Howard Mann state in court documents, obtained exclusively by RadarOnline.com.

The Toronto entrepreneur is being sued the the Jackson Estate, for violating trademarks, copyright and cyber piracy laws, by using the King of Pop's name and image without permission.

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But Mann alleges: "It goes back to more than over a half a century in the annals of dance in film (The Band Wagon's Slaughter on Tenth Avenue number) and on Broadway (in the musical Guys and Dolls.)

"It was used by Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly in one era -- by James Brown in another era -- and by hip hop street dancers of today (in the Step Up movies).

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"No one would ever think that Vintage Pop Media has anything to do with the Estate of Michael Jackson solely based on its company logo."

Mann and Katherine paired up in 2009 and produced her coffee table book Never Can Say Goodbye and a calendar which they said was to "support Michael Jackson's children."

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In the court filing, however, Mann uses the protection of court privilege to sensationally claim executors John Branca and John McClain "have deliberately and systematically funneled the estate's proceeds to themselves, to their law firms and to a host of new corporations and business ventures."

The one-time pornographer labels the suit "absolutely ridiculous" and "asinine" while saying their claim is "ignorant... on several levels."

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"The Estate of Michael Jackson has no greater rights, title and interest now than Michael Jackson had at the time of his death," it alleges.

That drew this fierce response from Howard Weitzman, the attorney representing Branca and McClain, Special Administrators for the Estate of the late King of Pop.

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"Howard Mann's comments about Michael's chosen Executors are outrageous lies," the highly respected lawyer told RadarOnline.com, in an exclusive statement.

"Mann believes he owns the rights to Michael Jackson's name and likeness. He is wrong, and is being sued because of his belief.

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"The Estate, which exists for the benefit of Michaels three children and his mother Katherine Jackson, is the lawful owner of those rights."

The next hearing in the case is scheduled for Monday, April 11."

WTH???
If he had such a problem with this why the hell didnt he say anything back when Michael first did it and done the shoes for it so he could do the lean on stage??

Damn people cant leave well enough alone!
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

He certainly didn't invent the lean, actually - it's in Charlie Chaplin films and so on, which he was influenced by. He was, however, the first person to patent it.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

well duh, you cant invent a lean lol. he failed. idiot.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

He patented the actual system to allow it, the shoe held into the floor, not the lean itself. You can't trademark a body movement. Well not yet, anyway!

Katherine should be ashamed of herself.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

Its strange that only now this has come to light:no:
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

^ No, it was well-known to experts. MJ also didn't event the moonwalk, he made it his trademark and known worldwide.
No law has been broken, some people just have no idea what they are talking about.

Concerning SMOOTH CRIMINAL:
The patent for the "anti-gravity" lean shoe belongs RIGHTFULLY to The Michael Jackson Estate.



Another case that will be easily dismissed.

Howard Mann is such an IDIOT, a LIAR and a FRAUDSTER looking for the big money.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

He patented the actual system to allow it, the shoe held into the floor, not the lean itself. You can't trademark a body movement. Well not yet, anyway!

Katherine should be ashamed of herself.

Of course!
C'mon, is he really suing for this? and who is the legal action against? Michael?? the estate?

And they want us to believe they want to protect MJ's legacy?

I am really sorry to say it but.... mama Katherine... why???? :(
 
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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

the estate is sueing mann. this is his reply to one of the allegations by the estate about mann using the leaning pose of mj the info is in the main thread about the lawsuit
 
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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

bump. to merge with the sc lean thread
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

Well, i have never seen anyone BUT MJ & his dancers do the lean.

Everyone under the sun (under 70) will think of MJ when they see the lean (IMHO).

Howard Mann cannot win this lawsuit....otherwise, all hell will break loose.
 
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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

yeah his claims are B.S its nothing to do with who invented the lean but who u do u think of when you see that mj pose. and using that pose to make ppl think the site is offically connected to mj when its not.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

yeah his claims are B.S its nothing to do with who invented the lean but who u do u think of when you see that mj pose. and using that pose to make ppl think the site is offically connected to mj when its not.

and it's not only the pose. MJ has a picture from the smooth criminal video ( the ultimate collection?) exactly like he appears in that company logo.
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

Why, how... why in the name of does Katherine associate herself with this guy? What is she doing man? Has she gone senile,she doesn't know who this guy is or is she just that greedy? Man i hope it's the second and someone notice the family so they can fire his @ss ...
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

His suing cuz of the "lean move"........this guy is nuts! :crazy:
 

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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann / Latest update : March 22, 2011

Only just catching up on all this and all I can say is...wow :no:
 

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Re: EXCLUSIVE DOCUMENTS: Katherine Jackson's Biz Partner: MJ Didn't Invent The Smooth Criminal!

Mann is acting like a schoolyard bully. MJ holds the patent for the shoes not for thinking of the lean itself. Hell - we can all lean. lol
 
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