AlexMB
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Dear MJ community,
I resurfaced this old thread and have joined the forum because of its topic.
Some of you might know a thing or two about the rare 1000 ''History'' MJ porcelain statues and the so called ''fake'' ones. The story is slightly different one and quite a sad one. The internet caught parts of the true story, but not fully. Some of the members in the thread touched the reality of it.
I'm a visual artist and together with my partner we are working on a short film/ partly documenting this story in the bigger scene of economical change in Eastern European countries, after the Fall of the Wall and introduction to capitalist market.
Here is a resume of this side of the project, containing on short the story:
Florin is making rarely sales from these ''other'' statues - maybe 1 or 2 per year. He doesn't know how to use the internet, barely knowing the sums the ''originals'' were sold for, the stories the internet generated and very late discovering that they became a rarity.
He always needed proxy persons to realize sales over internet, which in turn also took some unknown percentage.
3 types have been made by him:
- the most common ''History'' (in 3 sizes) - also talked about here, ordered for the big production described above
- the ''Mask'' (one size) - these were a test and did not enter mass production & very few were ever made, yet Michael has seen them
- the ''Throne'' (one size) - made as a present for Michael from Florin, also very few were made (he recalls sending away 10 in 98'). Florin still decorates from time to time one of these
Lisa and myself are writing to the community to find out more from the people that have such porcelain statuettes in their collection.
It would be amazing for our project to find out:
- Where have they reached on the planet?
- From where and when were they obtained form ? (internet auctions, vegas event, etc.)
- How much did they cost?
- Which History ''original'' number of the 1000 do you have? What about the ''others'' , colorful, white ones ?
- What information did you have about them, about the backstory?
It would be interesting for us to crate a global mapping of how they have resurfaced and where to be included in the project.
If you feel open to share this info with us we would be grateful. Also if you have pictures of them or could make some to share with us it would be amazing.
Either reply here, in a private message or by email (share in PM).
I resurfaced this old thread and have joined the forum because of its topic.
Some of you might know a thing or two about the rare 1000 ''History'' MJ porcelain statues and the so called ''fake'' ones. The story is slightly different one and quite a sad one. The internet caught parts of the true story, but not fully. Some of the members in the thread touched the reality of it.
I'm a visual artist and together with my partner we are working on a short film/ partly documenting this story in the bigger scene of economical change in Eastern European countries, after the Fall of the Wall and introduction to capitalist market.
Here is a resume of this side of the project, containing on short the story:
The so called ''fake'' statues come from the same workshop. Colorful ones were tests of color, while the few white ones where finished by Florin alone in the past 23 years, as costs of gold and platinum are way too high (4 grams reach about 100 euros). The extreme financial failure is still experienced by him to this day, as the dept is still being payed for even from his pension money, Florin being in this late 60's. The workshop is in ruin, technical equipment being sold one by one, brick by brick (the ovens).
Florin is making rarely sales from these ''other'' statues - maybe 1 or 2 per year. He doesn't know how to use the internet, barely knowing the sums the ''originals'' were sold for, the stories the internet generated and very late discovering that they became a rarity.
He always needed proxy persons to realize sales over internet, which in turn also took some unknown percentage.
3 types have been made by him:
- the most common ''History'' (in 3 sizes) - also talked about here, ordered for the big production described above
- the ''Mask'' (one size) - these were a test and did not enter mass production & very few were ever made, yet Michael has seen them
- the ''Throne'' (one size) - made as a present for Michael from Florin, also very few were made (he recalls sending away 10 in 98'). Florin still decorates from time to time one of these
Lisa and myself are writing to the community to find out more from the people that have such porcelain statuettes in their collection.
It would be amazing for our project to find out:
- Where have they reached on the planet?
- From where and when were they obtained form ? (internet auctions, vegas event, etc.)
- How much did they cost?
- Which History ''original'' number of the 1000 do you have? What about the ''others'' , colorful, white ones ?
- What information did you have about them, about the backstory?
It would be interesting for us to crate a global mapping of how they have resurfaced and where to be included in the project.
If you feel open to share this info with us we would be grateful. Also if you have pictures of them or could make some to share with us it would be amazing.
Either reply here, in a private message or by email (share in PM).
