Paris Jackson Rushed to Hospital After Possible Suicide Attempt

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CherubimII;3851652 said:
Aside: The article below is strange. Who is the "source close to the Jackson family".
If Paris does not want to live with either Katherine or Debbie Rowe,
this would be a good time for her to get to know Diana Ross who lives
"out of state". However, I wonder about the validity of this information.


Paris Jackson Is Headed for Additional Treatment
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20711499,00.html



By CHAMP CLARK
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Paris Jackson
MIKE/SPLASH NEWS ONLINE


Paris Jackson is continuing to seek treatment.

A source close to the Jackson family says that Paris, 15, may be headed to a longer-term treatment center out of state after herstint in a psychiatric facility at UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles.

"Paris will be staying at least another week, and then she'll be going to a facility for additional care," says the source.

The move comes after much discussion within the Jackson family about how best to care for Paris. The teen, who has a recent history of mental health issues that include cutting, was hospitalized on June 5 for taking pills and harming herself with a knife.

"This has been so hard for Mrs. Jackson," says the source of grandmother Katherine, who has legal co-guardianship of Paris. "She keeps saying she's never had any experience of how to deal with someone in this situation."

The decision to move Paris to a longer-term treatment center &#8211; a decision made by Katherine and Paris's biological mother Debbie Rowe in consultation with doctors &#8211; is in part based on Katherine Jackson's fears that her granddaughter had "fallen in with the wrong crowd" in Los Angeles, says the source.

The facility will include both school and therapy.

The source says that Katherine Jackson is hoping that her granddaughter will have time and space to heal.

Paris remained in the hospital on June 16, when her siblings Prince, 16, and Blanket, 11, attended the wedding of their cousin Taj Jackson with their grandmother.

"They were having a blast and dancing," says the source. "But Katherine seemed sad and thoughtful. Her mind is very much on Paris."

Hmm, it seems that this so-called "source" is going out of its way say that Paris has "mental" issues. Imo, this source is the same one(s) who tried to portray Paris as a "brat" and "out of control" last summer. It has always seemed as if SOMEONE wants to discredit Paris. I don't trust this article and I don't trust the so-called "sources".
 

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Hmm, it seems that this so-called "source" is going out of its way say that Paris has "mental" issues. Imo, this source is the same one(s) who tried to portray Paris as a "brat" and "out of control" last summer. It has always seemed as if SOMEONE wants to discredit Paris. I don't trust this article and I don't trust the so-called "sources".
Yea, for "The Jacksons" it's one down and two to go, and then they can go court and petition to get all of
Michael Jackson's money.
 

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Hmm, it seems that this so-called "source" is going out of its way say that Paris has "mental" issues. Imo, this source is the same one(s) who tried to portray Paris as a "brat" and "out of control" last summer. It has always seemed as if SOMEONE wants to discredit Paris. I don't trust this article and I don't trust the so-called "sources".
Yea, for "The Jacksons" it's one down and two to go, and then they can go court and petition to get all of Michael Jackson's money.
The Jackson's can't petition for the childrens money because someone discredits them in the media as you replied to Somewhereinthedarks post. Also Paris isn't down, whatever that means. She is getting the help she needs.

changing hats
The staff just deleted this same comment of yours above in another post. You came right back to repost it again. So I guess you want it publicly addressed and discussed in the thread. Your posts are getting more and more confusing and concerning and if you are implying that the Jacksons are deliberately trying to kill or harm Paris, Prince and Blanket, that will not be allowed here on MJJC. Please choose your words with more thought and care.
 

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I hope Paris will learn to deal with her own very intense and strong emotions! It's good she's going into longer treatment if that is true. She had to suffer an imense loss very early in her life. It will be a long hard way to go but I'm all positive she's getting some guidance and with it the help needed also then!
 

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Well excuse my negative comments; but with the exceptions of her brothers (Prince and Blanket), Katherine, LaToya, and TJ, I cannot detect any Jackson family movement to surround Paris Jackson, the only daughter of Michael Jackson, with the love and concern she needs.

With the exception of LaToya, I'm so disappointed in the siblings of Michael Jackson. All his life Michael Jackson worked to support Katherine's children; but after Michael's death, his siblings left his only daughter to fend for herself.
 

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^^ CherubumII That is much different than the accusation you made prior. No one says you have to like or support the Jackson's. But please curb the blatant unfounded accusations and mean spirited rants. Many are concerned over the actions of the Jacksons and other issues Paris faces. We certainly allow constructive criticism, but please Just tone it down a little and don't post your opinions as fact. We are all aware here, there is no need to preach to the choir.
 

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^^ CherubumII That is much different than the accusation you made prior. No one says you have to like or support the Jackson's. But please curb the blatant unfounded accusations and mean spirited rants. Many are concerned over the actions of the Jacksons and other issues Paris faces. We certainly allow constructive criticism, but please Just tone it down a little and don't post your opinions as fact. We are all aware here, there is no need to preach to the choir.

Thank you for your helpful post. I feel in my heart that, privately, Michael Jackson's real friends and Paris's real friends are reaching out to Paris Jackson with real support.

 

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We just have to keep the prayers, good wishes, positive affirmations, and everything we have as an energy sent her way. I so worry about the professionals who try to help her, if whether they try to pidgeon hole her into a standard treatment or standard way of thinking, ignoring what makes her situation uniquely different. Few if any come from a situation like Paris', and if they try to force her into an acceptance of what is a norm, she'll always have problems. I'm hoping they really listen to her, and help her learn how to best cope with her feelings and HER specific circumstances.
 

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gerryevans please don't worry too much... professionals will do exactly what you've mentioned... they will listen to her and give her the space to talk about what's really going on inside. They will try to help Paris helping herself.
Nothing else would be professional.
As professionals we do know there is a 'norm'... which is just pretty much described the middle group of whatever... however to be 'normal' or to be like others want one to be is certainly never the goal to achieve in therapy... even when it might looks easier to be that on the first superficial look for some! If you have a healthy soul, you certainly do know it's not that!

What I'm more worried about is the time those professionals will get to do their work... how much time Paris wants to give herself and also her surroundings (family, stupid trials going on, whatever) and all that... because this certainly will need its time... lots of time... lots of patience... lots of strength and lots of willingness to accept things like they are and see through it that life can be still beautiful and wonderful.

Nobody here can do anything but pray and send all positive vibes Paris way!!! Yep that is what we all should do! I know it works!
 
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kj and latoya have exploted the kids from day one. a contributing factor imo

Well excuse my negative comments; but with the exceptions of her brothers (Prince and Blanket), Katherine, LaToya, and TJ, I cannot detect any Jackson family movement to surround Paris Jackson, the only daughter of Michael Jackson, with the love and concern she needs.

With the exception of LaToya, I'm so disappointed in the siblings of Michael Jackson. All his life Michael Jackson worked to support Katherine's children; but after Michael's death, his siblings left his only daughter to fend for herself.
 

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I think it's good that she is talking to professionals. It's obvious to me that Paris can't talk to Katherine or the others about her feelings. I say this because they Jacksons have admitted that they sweep things under the rug. They don't really talk about things. It's a motto that doesn't work for someone like Paris. She needs to express her feelings. I see Katherine and it's hard for her to talk about Michael too much. You see it in her face and then you have Paris who probably wants to talk about her dad. Paris told Ellen she remembers everything her dad told her. The Jacksons probably behave the opposite of that and I am not surprised if she feels confused. She is a strong girl. It took a lot of courage to speak at Michael's memorial the way she did. I know she will get better because Michael gave her a solid foundation and she just needs the right tools to build from that. If Michael was here she would have it because he knew what he was doing with his kids. She has a lot to give to the world and Michael will always be with her and her brothers.
 

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When Oprah brought up Michael's death, Paris went over and hugged Katherine Jackson. Now it's haunting that Paris Jackson did that.

Paris comforted her Grandmother, but Paris Jackson, underneath it all, her emotions, were not being addressed, just Grandma's. Now I wished Grandma Katherine Jackson had said something to her granddaughter about how this must be harder on her since she was 13 or 14 at the time. Paris was coming across as the more mature one, not the 80 year old Grandmother, the attention of her grieving over Michael Jackson's death!



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I understand why it's hard on Katherine because this is her son. But if the adults in Paris life are not able to express their feelings then how can she express hers without upsetting them? She was daddy's little girl and they were so close. I hope Prince and Blanket are alright too. They should have had counselling right after Michael died. Michael was their dad but he was also global icon and there was going to be extra attention on them in the first place. To me the kids should have had more privacy and less exposure. As they got older then we would see more of them. Everyone trying to do the opposite of what Michael was trying to do. But it just shows that Michael knew exactly what he was doing.
 

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^I wasn't saying that was the reason she did it; I meant the most important thing she receives the help she needs without paparazzi harassing her. Harassment is what she needs the less.

Sorry for my misunderstanding for previous post.

I agree, the most important now is that she receives the right treatment from ethical professionals. She's too young to have so much stress. It's really sad what she did, probably at that moment she felt as if all doors were closed to her. Yeah, she doesn't need any harassing from the paparazzi or from the Jacksons. Sorry again.
 

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When Oprah brought up Michael's death, Paris went over and hugged Katherine Jackson. Now it's haunting that Paris Jackson did that.

Paris comforted her Grandmother, but Paris Jackson, underneath it all, her emotions, were not being addressed, just Grandma's. Now I wished Grandma Katherine Jackson had said something to her granddaughter about how this must be harder on her since she was 13 or 14 at the time. Paris was coming across as the more mature one, not the 80 year old Grandmother, the attention of her grieving over Michael Jackson's death!



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the grief she never fails to use to promote a new business
 

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Enough excuses about KJ. She's part of the problem and has been since day one. Pimping your grieving grand kids for a quick buck is just wrong and unacceptable. Those kids were never ready for the spotlight and I'm afraid one of the kids could be damaged already as a result. KJ seems incapable or unwilling to even honor the wishes of her son. she's been constantly exploiting his kids and the tragic part in all of this is that her dead son is paying for her living and comfort through his estate. hasn't her son made enough sacrifices already? he's even sacrificed his own life and what is he getting in return? even looking after his children seems like a burden yet they all want his estate to feed them and buy them houses. that's just not right.
 

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Enough excuses about KJ. She's part of the problem and has been since day one. Pimping your grieving grand kids for a quick buck is just wrong and unacceptable. Those kids were never ready for the spotlight and I'm afraid one of the kids could be damaged already as a result. KJ seems incapable or unwilling to even honor the wishes of her son. she's been constantly exploiting his kids and the tragic part in all of this is that her dead son is paying for her living and comfort through his estate. hasn't her son made enough sacrifices already? he's even sacrificed his own life and what is he getting in return? even looking after his children seems like a burden yet they all want his estate to feed them and buy them houses. that's just not right.
You have stated the truth very well. I thank you. :bow:
 

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I wonder if sending all the different engagements would at least start a conversation with Paris Jackson as to how does she feel about these different Events and go over each and everyone, if she thought she was being taken advantage of. I would think the guardian ad litem would do that kind of an Investigation to determine what is best for Paris Jackson's well being. For I truly believe that is why she was probably cutting herself, she'd had enough of feeling these feelings and no one was addressing how much anguish this was causing her. I really hope the guardian ad litem will do this for us and so Jamba compose your letter and sort through your own judgement as to the content of what would be applicable.

Maybe when the guardian ad litem presents her findings to the Judge, he will determine that it is not in the best interest of Paris Jackson to do engagements that are not suitable. If Katherine Jackson persists, then Paris Jackson can pick up the phone and call the guardian ad litem and complain that she is now being taken advantage of and could the guardian ad litem step in with the Judge's decision and Katherine will legally have to comply against her whim and wishes!

Alicat--I am sending the email and letter tomorrow (I posted the letter part earlier). I was holding the list to see if there was something I missed. I couldn't find a definite date on the fake Heal the World foundation, but I think Prince and maybe Paris were included on the Board of Directors, and maybe there wasn't a media appearance about it, except the GMA, which someone said was about that foundation work.

Anyway, if Paris is going out of state to a treatment facility, it seems that the media interviews and appearances will stop for a while, but I am still going to send the list so they have the fact if needed.

What worries me is if the damage is done. It is so easy to hurt something or someone and so much harder to 'make it better,' especially when the problem has gotten so bad as to manifest in acts like a suicide attempt. That shows real deep unhappiness and stress. On the other hand, Paris is young and has so much going for her, so with the right care and environment she will make big strides forward--Go, Paris!!

I think what Cherubim II was saying (if I understand the point correctly) is that sometimes people feel more comfortable saying--well, that person is nuts, and I always said so--rather than seeing it as a more complex situation. This happened to MJ, of course, in that he was simplified and rejected rather than being seen as a complex person with many facets to his art and person. So saying he or she is crazy, weird, etc, is a way not to think seriously about the person and what they are communicating and TRY HARD to understand them. "Before you judge me, try hard to love me." In the same song "No one understands me."
 

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I think what Cherubim II was saying (if I understand the point correctly) is that sometimes people feel more comfortable saying--well, that person is nuts, and I always said so--rather than seeing it as a more complex situation. This happened to MJ, of course, in that he was simplified and rejected rather than being seen as a complex person with many facets to his art and person. So saying he or she is crazy, weird, etc, is a way not to think seriously about the person and what they are communicating and TRY HARD to understand them. "Before you judge me, try hard to love me." In the same song "No one understands me."
Yes, that is true, but also the person is made to feel very insecure.
The person is "Gaslighted".
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Since today was perfect weather day, I took advantage of the great outdoors and went hiking one of the many Mountain Ranges nearby me. So much pondering and contemplating and meditating along with prayerful consideration, because this is just too intense and I feel sad.

Before Michael Jackson died, I thought how could he ever remarry, for he and his daughter are so tight, no woman could come between them. Perhaps when Paris Jackson came of age, 18 years, then Michael might think about it. Paris was so protective of her Dad, it was admirable and it would have killed Paris Jackson for another woman to come between her and her father. This was such a special relationship.

All I can think that if it is true, about a school curriculum being a part of her therapy in an out of state environment, this could be a good thing. Paris could catch up with her schooling and if she ever thought about returning to Buckley she would be in the same grade. I thought that if she had flunked this year, it might prove to be hard to return as she would be behind her other classmates and the stigma may prove too much, along with what else has transpired.

Jamba, you are truly a gem for doing this and all I hope is someone will have a listening ear!


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It's so quiet in the forest...and all the lovely flowers - so many today during my hike. This song is dedicated to Paris Jackson!


 
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