The Official MTV VMA Thread

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Hey fans. This is the thread that we can discussed, trash, bash etc. the "awards" show. We all know that MTV as a whole basically sucks these days. So, I decided to make this thread so that we can all discussed how much the network and the award show sucks. After what they have done to MJ, I, like many of you guys, have zero respect for the network and their award show. If some of you guys are interested (yes, I know there are some people who are) in who is being nominated and the like, you can go on their website: www.mtv.com and check on it. I have a few rules for all of us to follow:

1. No bashing artists.

2. Please bash MTV as much as you can. Posts pics, post info, post whatever that does not violate the rules.

3. Respect others.

4. Have fun, laugh, joke, whatever.

In the event, because as usual, there are rumors that MJ "might" come on the show, the mods can close this thread and make one on the General MJ Discussion section of the board. I do not mind and I totally understand. I do not believe the rumors that MJ will appear on the award show because every year MTV does this maybe so that people can watch. Blah.

I want to post an article that was posted on the Sept. 4th news thread that preety much sums up the MTV VMAs (btw, whoever posted the article, forgot to post the link):

Time's run out on Video Music Awards
There's something wrong when MTV doesn't even air the videos it's honoring

Thursday, Sep 04, 2008 - 12:06 AM Updated: 11:52 AM

By MELISSA RUGGIERI
MUSIC CRITIC

Is it possible that MTV doesn't see the irony in its Video Music Awards?

This is a channel that has lasted 27 years, launched the careers of hundreds of artists, instigated the reality TV craze with "The Real World," bestowed Carson Daly with a career and foisted the horrors known as "The Hills" and Danity Kane upon us.

Obviously, MTV has transformed over the years and managed to stay relevant to new generations while sending the old ones into mourning with every mention of Tila Tequila.

But there is something wrong with a channel not just hosting, but drowning in self-congratulatory hype over a show that celebrates the best videos of the year . . . when the channel doesn't even air the very videos it's honoring.

Having covered a few VMAs over the years, I can confirm your suspicions that the show is so far removed from its original purpose -- to recognize the creative visual feats of music videos -- that its existence lately is merely an expensive excuse to trot out B-list celebrities who will yammer to anyone on the red carpet about how influential MTV has been to their careers.

Even if --we'll say it again -- MTV never even played their video.

Look, MTV hasn't been interested in music for years -- the separation began in the early'90s, and the divorce came around the time of Kurt Cobain's death -- which is why it's created a list of offshoot channels so long it literally takes up a screen on my TV.

MTV2 was originally designed to take those pesky videos off MTV's hands so it could concentrate on "My Super Sweet 16," but now MTV2 also mostly focuses on reality shows such as "From G's to Gents" and Randy Jackson's dance competition.

Other channels -- MTVU and MTV Jams -- are too niche-oriented to make much of an impact. So that leaves MTV Hits to actually show videos, which it does. So why not move the VMAs there? It's the only place a viewer might have caught 90 seconds of a Chris Brown or Ting Tings clip?

I know, I know -- because it would diminish the cache of the MTV brand to not hold this annual platform on the parent channel, where there is a much bigger audience on which to cross-promote bad Mike Myers movies.

But the VMAs mean so little now. Who would care if the show were scuttled to a sister channel that at least has some connection to the theme?

Sunday's show is the 25th annual presentation of the moon man statuettes, and anyone older than 35 probably remembers the initial significance of these awards.

Without MTV and the influence of a visual medium for music, who knows if Madonna would be the tireless icon that she is today, or if Michael Jackson's "Thriller" would have become the second best-selling album in U.S. history?

It's a reasonable guess that Duran Duran would never have penetrated America without the aid of its glamorous mini-movies, and M?tley Cr?e wouldn't have graduated from playing dives in Los Angeles without MTV to colorize its sleazy strip-club rock.

But, as with so many things, that was a different era. Videos were the only connection fans had to their idols and the only outlet artists had to present their look and attitude.

Now, with MySpace, iTunes, YouTube and official Web site blogs facilitating faux-intimate fan-artist relationships, who needs to watch the new Katy Perry video to catch a glimpse of her personality?

Even as recently as a few years ago, the VMAs still served as reasonable entertainment: Britney Spears entangled with a snake; the Madonna-Britney-Christina kiss; Triumph the Insult Comic Dog tussling with Eminem; Michael Jackson thinking he won an Artist of the Millennium award, when it was merely a birthday tchotchke.

But now, with our new media world of constant exposure and scrutiny, the VMAs appeal to our basest instincts: Let's watch Britney, a clearly troubled young woman, derail in front of us and then make a sport out of mocking her. Or, if we're really lucky, Kid Rock and Tommy Lee, those paragons of moral decency, might start a fistfight.

That's what it came to last year, which should have been two clear signs to MTV that it's time to bury an old friend. Now that the 25-year milestone has been reached, let's hope that after Sunday, MTV will pull out the coffin.


The show comes on 8PM EST on MTV. (I think.)
 
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omg Bee, you are the cutest :lol: :lol: :lol:

1. No bashing artists.

2. Please bash MTV as much as you can. Posts pics, post info, post whatever that does not violate the rules.

3. Respect others.

4. Have fun, laugh, joke, whatever.

:rofl:
 

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I watched the previews yesterday.... well not really watched it, but just caught up on it, cause I was on the Pc doing my work. They did a travel back type of thing and showed Britney from her MTV performance debut to that kiss between her and Madonna (and Christina Aguleria). I dun know what it has to do with MTV sucking, but I just wanted to say that. EDIT: well, actually it does :lol: It's a crying shame how they were so ga-ga for Brit, but nowadays they just outright humiliate her. Pfft.

That article is very interesting, yet somewhat sad. and I say that because I wish MTV would take their dead out of their butts and realize what is going on. THAT is what is happening to them at the moment, and they don't even wanna acknowledge it. Until they can come up with a serious plan, from here on now, every year, it's gonna get worse. They'll lose more respect, more viewers, and then what? Again its sad, because that's the way it is.

That's what it came to last year, which should have been two clear signs to MTV that it's time to bury an old friend. Now that the 25-year milestone has been reached, let's hope that after Sunday, MTV will pull out the coffin.

I wish/hope so too.
 
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OH YEAH!!!!!!! LOL!

I think it comes on at 9est, and the pre-show comes on at 8!!!!

Whatever, I just gotta watch the Hills @ 7:30, lol
 

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There has been a lot of talking whether Michael will attend the VMA's.

AWFUL is all I can say for the pre-show. It is so tasteless. It's all about who has more money and want to prove who spends it for least needed things and in the most ridiculous ways.
FLAUNTING with new WHEELS and stuff - Some idiot came on an elephant (poor animal) - they made it A CIRCUS. They even made A FASHION POLL and you vote for who has the HOTTEST VEHICLES... Come on...

Isn't anything about MUSIC anymore? The performers are LAME (save for P!NK and Paramore IMO) , nominees even worse.

Anyway, I just want to say that I am PROUD of Michael of how NORMAL and MODEST he is. Have you ever seen him talk about all the money he has and act this INAPPROPRIATE? NO!

So that's why I have to say that I am happy Michael is not a part of this circus.

Although,even if he DID attend, he would do it with more style than any of these clowns here - and he would just modestly accept the award, like he always does.

So God bless you Michael Jackson for being so big, and yet staying so small , down-to-earth and HUMAN! I LOVE YOU AND RESPECT YOU NOT JUST AS AN ARTIST - BUT AS A HUMAN BEING ONCE AGAIN - FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!


 

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^^^^I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway...preshow=boooooring.
when's the good stuff gonna happen??!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 

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So far the preshow has been as lame as they always are lol...
Did u gus saw how T-Pain came in? :lmao: this show has become a total joke.
 

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Fine, I'm watching :scared: and uh hey, can some answer my question about.... what is Paris Hilton supposed to be famous for. And I don't mean that dumb a$$ sex tape and reality show. HOW is she famous :blink:

Jonas Broth-- Bro-- Br... *cough*
 

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^^^^I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway...preshow=boooooring.
when's the good stuff gonna happen??!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!

GOOD stuff?
What exactly is GOOD here (except for 2-3 rock performers)?

BTW , can you guys imagine SLIPKNOT and BRITNEY sharing the stage? I mean , what has this show BECOME? Everyone wants just AAAAAAAAA-TTENTION!

And TillItsGone - Paris Hilton is a porn actress. Or if you will, a supporter of sexual education for the minors. So that's kind of ... generous and noble I can say. LOL!
 

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The one performing Closer? it was ok.

Ciara is so damn cute. But her hair is kinda weird.

BTW, now that I have solved the mystery of PARIS HILTON can someone tell me WHAT THE HELL IS THAT LOSER CHRIS CROCKER DOING THERE? He is a live example of how easily you can become a celebrity...

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT...
 

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I actually like this rockier version of Disturbia... and thank dangerous, that helped... until u mentioned Chris Crocker... where... :busted:
 

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I'm kinda shocked about how tiny the venue and stage are... the show has totally lost it.
I'm glad I was able to enjoy the great shows of the late eighties early nineties...Radio City Music Hall...
 

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What da hell does masturbation have to do with anything? Masturbatin wearing a condom...huh what da hell r u sayin... ugh

And I'm not even starin on the J5 joke I juss heard. correct me if i'm wrong.
 
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