Thriller 3D Update

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We drove a ways to see it. They forgot our 3D glasses so we just walked in as O'Ray left the Theater. It was amazing, and the 3D wasnt bad aswell. I wish i could see it again. Best Quality. I never saw the credit outro too, that actually surprised me.
 

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Thriller 3D is actually not cropped. It was originally shot for this theatre format.

It was originally shot in 4:3/1.33:1 (watch the VHS home release or Youtube ratio), so yes it's definitely cropped, but you are right on the fact it was meant to be seen in widescreen format at the theater.
 
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It was originally shot in 4:3/1.33:1 (watch the VHS home release or Youtube ratio), so yes it's definitely cropped, but you are right on the fact it was meant to be seen in widescreen format at the theater.

It was shown like this last year:
 

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It was shown like this last year:

What you are watching is the widescreen version cropped from the original 4:3 format. The way it is watchable from the spectator's view looks like it's 4:3 but no, optical illusion :D. I was in the place when he filmed it from his mobile phone.

Here is a better view of the widescreen format at Venice 2017 festival:

 
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What you are watching is the widescreen version cropped from the original 4:3 format. The way it is watchable from the spectator's view looks like it's 4:3 but no, optical illusion :D. I was in the place when he filmed it from his mobile phone.

Here is a better view of the widescreen format at Venice 2017 festival:
I compared that to the music video on Youtube and it looks like you can see a little bit more on the sides but less from top and bottom in that 3D version.

I hope they include both 4:3 and widescreen versions when they release it on Blu-Ray.
 

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I compared that to the music video on Youtube and it looks like you can see a little bit more on the sides but less from top and bottom in that 3D version.

I hope they include both 4:3 and widescreen versions when they release it on Blu-Ray.

Most of the missing picture is the bottom and the top, it is what happens when you convert 4:3 to widescreen format. Maybe a little part gained on the sides, i'm not sure and would need to check that on a bigger display than my monitor to confirm. Yes both format on Blu-ray would be nice for purists !
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Omg guys just left the movies from seeing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a>. I’m speechless, it was absolutely amazing!! That’s the closest I’ll ever get to Michael, his body was jkdjfnfkkgn! Thought I loved his body before, that heightened it by more than 100%! That made my week! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> &#10084;&#65039; <a href="https://t.co/etoJlxrm5j">pic.twitter.com/etoJlxrm5j</a></p>&mdash; &#8371;&#331;&#11365;&#8477;&#629;&#7785;&#12620;&#128139;&#128149; (@mgeniusjackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/mgeniusjackson/status/1042967291930005509?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Comment on the Justice4MJ FB page on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a>. <a href="https://t.co/kY0F7IVDHd">pic.twitter.com/kY0F7IVDHd</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1042992437449244674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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House without Thriller played at my local IMAX today to a crowd of about 8 people.

Today is a holiday where people are off work, and all schools closed.

Maybe if they had shown it with Thriller and promoted it they might have got more than 8 people in. Great job to all involved(!)
 

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Joce;4230999 said:
It was originally shot in 4:3/1.33:1 (watch the VHS home release or Youtube ratio), so yes it's definitely cropped, but you are right on the fact it was meant to be seen in widescreen format at the theater.

No, it wasn’t.
 

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dam2040;4231025 said:
No, it wasn&#8217;t.

Yes it was shot in 1:33, like most of TV productions in these times.

Also imdb confirm:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088263/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec

Original 4:3 aspect ratio:

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Cropped version shown last year (Widescreen):

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It is clear that we lose picture from the top and bottom because it is cropped. (I'm not talking about the seat at the bottom on the widescreen picture), but just look at the top. Couldn't find any others videos for an example, sorry for the quality.

As a purist i'm still convinced it's the best way to watch it at the theater (widescreen).
 
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Just got back from watching it, man am I stunned by the quality! Looks like it was filmed yesterday and as most people never really was a fan of 3-D but this is something else. The sound was incredible you can hear almost every instrument being played. Hopefully this gets released in some type of video format but watching on the HUGE screen is something else!
 

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Joce;4231026 said:
Yes it was shot in 1:33, like most of TV productions in these times.

Also imdb confirm:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088263/technical?ref_=tt_dt_spec

Original 4:3 aspect ratio:

1537558629-thrilleroriginal43.png


Cropped version shown last year (Widescreen):

1537558614-thriller169.png


It is clear that we lose picture from the top and bottom because it is cropped. (I'm not talking about the seat at the bottom on the widescreen picture), but just look at the top. Couldn't find any others videos for an example, sorry for the quality.

As a purist i'm still convinced it's the best way to watch it at the theater (widescreen).

Ah, I think I confused your point. It was originally shot in 4:3 but was always intended for the Cinema crop, hence you don’t lose any MJ and the 4:3 version you can see stage lights etc.
 

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The IMAX screen I viewed it on has a ratio of 1.43. So whether Thriller was originally 1.33 or widescreen, there had to be some cropping involved.
 

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I saw it this afternoon and loved it! It was so refreshing to finally watch a film with Michael in sharp, crystal clear quality for a change. The issue with his skin looking bluish in the outdoor scene wasn&#8217;t as apparent on the big screen, and then it was really only in that one scene. The picture was great throughout the entire film, and the audio sounded absolutely fantastic in the theater. It would be a dream come true if they could give all of Michael&#8217;s films the same restoration treatment. That box set I would be happy to buy!

And by the way, I understand people not wanting to stay for The House With a Clock in Its Walls, but it really wasn&#8217;t a bad film at all! Rather charming, especially if you have children with you, I think they would enjoy it very much.
 

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The audio mix for the dance sequence is wrong.

That’s a shame.
 

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We already know since last year that they didn't use the original mix. I forgot the link article but i think the master was in very bad condition so they couldn't use it.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just saw <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a> in IMAX. It’s mindblowing. I can’t explain it. It made me smile and cry. Looked like you were on set. FELT the music. Go see it.</p>&mdash; Darren Hayes (@darrenhayes) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenhayes/status/1042976471810113536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The other amazing thing about <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a> in <a href="https://twitter.com/IMAX?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IMAX</a> is the re-mastering of the audio. It was converted from stereo to surround - and the music has never sounded better. It's like a concert. And MJ up close - it's very emotional. AND SCARY!</p>&mdash; Darren Hayes (@darrenhayes) <a href="https://twitter.com/darrenhayes/status/1043339777972494336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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Joce;4231074 said:
We already know since last year that they didn't use the original mix. I forgot the link article but i think the master was in very bad condition so they couldn't use it.

Yeah, but they’ve got it wrong. They had access to the original etc so there is no excuse.
 

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dam2040;4231073 said:
The audio mix for the dance sequence is wrong.

That’s a shame.
In what way? Are the sound effects missing?
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a> was the best 13 minutes of my life so far. The 3D was just amazing, if you can PLEASE WATCH IT. You will not regret it one tiny bit. <a href="https://t.co/LIGXUYkheS">pic.twitter.com/LIGXUYkheS</a></p>&mdash; Trevor Williams (@Trevor_Ray_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Trevor_Ray_/status/1043409495198642176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The “Thriller” restoration looks great in IMAX. Fun times. A kid in the theater screamed the loudest scream I’ve ever heard in a theater at the last jump of glowing eyes.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Kramer (@benjaminkramer) <a href="https://twitter.com/benjaminkramer/status/1043370083639160832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller3D?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller3D</a> was spectacular. I was in shock to be honest at first. I didn't know how to react. Happy ,sad , I couldn't decide. The quality was at least 4k. Phenomenal. When Michael danced, I couldn't tell the difference between him being in the same room, or on the screen. Wow</p>&mdash; Andres Romance (@platinumpapi) <a href="https://twitter.com/platinumpapi/status/1043349755823357952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. September 2018</a></blockquote>
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In what way? Are the sound effects missing?

Sound effects are either new, or mixed a lot lower. The turn into the chorus after the dance sequence is musically wrong as well. There's no turn into it. The beat just continues with the chorus added over it.

I can't wait for the home release. The technically gifted fans will have to correct the colour/audio and then we will have the ultimate Thriller.
 
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