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I don't understand why they would do that! Already there is so much controversy surrounding Michael that takes away from his incredible talent. Why would they create more controversy. The album would have been ok, and probably sold the same without those 3 tracks! Why do people do such things!! Why! Why!
Without a doubt it would of sold a lot more copies. Maybe even 5 million total!! Because the estate added those fake songs a lot of Michael’s collaborators want nothing to do with the estate. To this day they haven’t turned over their material or signed off to have their stuff released.
 

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I guess 2000 Watts isn't MJ also.

dude... on 2000 watts you can clearly hear that it is MJs voice..
At this point i am pretty sure you have no musical knowledge..
Even forensic-analyses confirmed that all the cascio songs doesn't sound anything like Michael Jackson.

all of MJs family and producers say that it's not him..
literally everyone who heard "breaking news" when it was released heard immediately that its not his voice..
all the cascio tracks are sung without soul and by a guy who was in his 20s..
We literally have a real MJ recording from the same year (WBSS Thriller 25) which sounds nothing like the cascio stuff.

it's so damn obvious and you still defend it..
 

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Exactly! The vocalist is 25 years old white man. That is definitely not black man singing and definitely not someone who is 49. Also, we have Hold My Hand - recorded that same year few months apart and WBSS 2008 verse recorded in that very same basement with that very same equipement and they both sound nothing like Cascio vocalist. They actually sound like 49 yo black man and they sound exactly like Michael Jackson.

In my opinion those two songs are also proofs.
This is actually pretty crazy. How did Eddie explain this discrepancy? Although his excuse why the vocals sounded the way they did was laughable, it still was an attempt to explain that. What excuse do they have for WBSS 2008 sounding different, even though it was recorded in the same studio, months apart, than the Cascio tracks??
 

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Also in the video he claimed the song "breaking news" was leaked before release..
that was definitely not the case.. I remember 2009/10 like it was yesterday.

The acapella of the lead vocals were leaked after the release.. but it more proofed that these songs are faked.
 
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Also in the video he claimed the song "breaking news" was leaked before release..
that was definitely not the case.. I remember 2009/10 like it was yesterday.

The acapella of the lead vocals were leaked after the release.. but it more proofed that these songs are faked.
i thought he said there are no stems for the 12 songs so where did the acapella come from?
 

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exactly..
no stems but how could teddy riley then rework the songs and use the separate vocals?
Also the alternate version of Keep Your Head Up that leaked has different vocals from the album version. We're supposed to believe all they had was already mixed tracks lol.
 

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Also the alternate version of Keep Your Head Up that leaked has different vocals from the album version. We're supposed to believe all they had was already mixed tracks lol.

It also had "Earth Song" vocals at the end.. i still have this version somewhere.. it was so awful done..
 

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It also had "Earth Song" vocals at the end.. i still have this version somewhere.. it was so awful done..
This is the one lol. This is so laughable. It's so bizzare that they thought fans who has been listening to him since he was 10 years old would buy into this crap.

 

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This is the one lol. This is so laughable. It's so bizzare that they thought fans who has been listening to him since he was 10 years old would buy into this crap.


no.. the leaked on was the album mix but with the earth song vocals.
i wonder how they removed the earth song ones if they had no stems :D
 

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This is the one lol. This is so laughable. It's so bizzare that they thought fans who has been listening to him since he was 10 years old would buy into this crap.


This is the one I was talking about, the "I can't even breathe, I can't even see" is totally different on the album version iirc.
 
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i think this was the leaked pre-mix before the album was released..

 

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i think this was the leaked pre-mix before the album was released..


Yeah, the one themidwestcowboy posted is the track before it was remixed for the album I'm pretty sure. It has the different vocals in it.

This one is the album pre mix and has final vocals but weirdly still has the earth song adlibs included lol.
 
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i can't find the post, but if iam not mistaken someone on Eddies studio "team" was working under a different alias for Jason also. James Porte (?) -> session singer for Cascio & DJ/Mixer for Jason. Maybe the user who was posting that, reads this and can reply. It's also weird that you cant find any details on who produced/wrote Jasons "Critical" Album in 2010 (theres even a MJ tribute on it). ;)

some funny stuff also (not released):
it seems Jason likes to play with MJ samples:
https://soundcloud.com/jasonmalachiofficial%2Fstop-breakin-my-heart (some sounds from the dangerous album. lol.)

and he also likes to smash glas (BN vibes at the beginning/opening sound):
https://soundcloud.com/jasonmalachiofficial%2Five-got-what-you-want
dangerous anyone?
https://soundcloud.com/jasonmalachiofficial%2Fgirl-was-bad-intro
at least there's a catchy chorus (kinda at 1:03):
https://soundcloud.com/jasonmalachiofficial%2Fi-cant-live-without-you

there are more rip off tracks on this soundcloud account. some sound like produced during the cascio "sessions".
 
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Could you imagine if there was an actual Jason Malachi song where Jason himself also sang the lyrics "mama say mama got you in a zig zag, just like the line in Monster?

Wouldn't that be hilarious? Best lyrics from all of the 12 Cascio tracks. That would convince me that it is definitely Jason on the Cascio songs (apart from everything else that share similarities).
It's funny how specific you were with this because there is in fact an unreleased Jason track where he says that line for no reason lmaooo it sounds like a joke but i swear its true.
 
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There are reasons these tracks were placed on the album. They would never have been placed there if the "Estate" did not want them on there. This is really a non-issue that is being kept alive by the fan community. It is all part of a bigger picture that will be revealed in time. It is such a waste of time to try and bring lawsuits against the "Estate" for something they planned to a tee. Just focus on what is REALLY going on instead of what you think is going on.
 

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There are reasons these tracks were placed on the album. They would never have been placed there if the "Estate" did not want them on there. This is really a non-issue that is being kept alive by the fan community. It is all part of a bigger picture that will be revealed in time. It is such a waste of time to try and bring lawsuits against the "Estate" for something they planned to a tee. Just focus on what is REALLY going on instead of what you think is going on.
they placed them on them album, because they dont give a f***. They are just a bunch of idiots. They dont care. Believing in words of some psycho (Cascio) is so unprofessional... MJ have never participated in production of these songs...
 

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This is actually pretty crazy. How did Eddie explain this discrepancy? Although his excuse why the vocals sounded the way they did was laughable, it still was an attempt to explain that. What excuse do they have for WBSS 2008 sounding different, even though it was recorded in the same studio, months apart, than the Cascio tracks??
you mean MJ vocals from 1:42 ?
 

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I guess 2000 Watts isn't MJ also.
Hopefully today's news, that the Cascio tracks are being removed from digital versions of the album, is prood enough for you that those songs are not MJ. You seem hell bent on ignoring all of the other evidence!
 

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Hopefully today's news, that the Cascio tracks are being removed from digital versions of the album, is prood enough for you that those songs are not MJ. You seem hell bent on ignoring all of the other evidence!
What evidence? It's just people saying they don't think it's MJ. There needs to be proof.
 

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I guess 2000 Watts isn't MJ also.
Contrary to the three forgeries released on the Michael album, 2000 Watts was actually released by Michael Jackson during his lifetime and it does, actually sound like himself.

Even if the voice is deeper, you can hear that it is his tone, his vibrato, his belts and his way of articulating words. Before you ask the question “is there any proof that Michael didn’t sing these songs” you must ask yourself “is there any proof that he did sing them?” No. There isn’t.

Apart from Cascio, saying that he recorded them, there are no other witnesses to these sessions and no authentic notes written by Michael Jackson mentioning any of these songs.

Additionally, the process of recording described by Cascio, is not even close to Michael’s habitual way of working when recording music.

I did have to repeat myself in this post, since I remember writing something similar a while back, without you acknowledging it.
 
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The fact that so many people - especially fans - even question if it's MJ is enough to make raise all red flags.

MJ's voice has never been questioned before - I know this was the first release after his death (apart from TII album) - but MJ's voice is so famous and unique - so for people to even doubt it's MJ is weird. The vibrato is off.

Back in 2010 when the songs were first released I really could not believe it was not MJ - how could The Estate and SONY be tricked? Why would they release fake songs? - so back then I almost forced myself to believe it WAS MJ... but... listening to the songs was hard, something was not right.

Then came the vocal analysis, the producers said it was not MJ, but produced the song hoping to get real MJ vocals??!!?... so many things was weird. - No video from recording, no alternate vocal takes, no demo versions. MJ sang thru a PVC pipe...

Hopefully they 3 songs will now be deleted from MJ's discography and will forever be removed from any MJ album - Michael, Cirque du Solei, The Ultimate Collection etc. - hopefully the songs are once and for all totally removed from all platforms and from future CD pressings etc.

The fake songs has done SO much damage the last 12 years. - Personally I never thought The Estate/SONY would admit this and remove them - but I am very happy they do so. - Can this be because J3 is taking over? - Could this be Prince, Paris and Blanket having their say ??
 

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The fact that so many people - especially fans - even question if it's MJ is enough to make raise all red flags.

MJ's voice has never been questioned before - I know this was the first release after his death (apart from TII album) - but MJ's voice is so famous and unique - so for people to even doubt it's MJ is weird. The vibrato is off.

Back in 2010 when the songs were first released I really could not believe it was not MJ - how could The Estate and SONY be tricked? Why would they release fake songs? - so back then I almost forced myself to believe it WAS MJ... but... listening to the songs was hard, something was not right.

Then came the vocal analysis, the producers said it was not MJ, but produced the song hoping to get real MJ vocals??!!?... so many things was weird. - No video from recording, no alternate vocal takes, no demo versions. MJ sang thru a PVC pipe...

Hopefully they 3 songs will now be deleted from MJ's discography and will forever be removed from any MJ album - Michael, Cirque du Solei, The Ultimate Collection etc. - hopefully the songs are once and for all totally removed from all platforms and from future CD pressings etc.

The fake songs has done SO much damage the last 12 years. - Personally I never thought The Estate/SONY would admit this and remove them - but I am very happy they do so. - Can this be because J3 is taking over? - Could this be Prince, Paris and Blanket having their say ??
This was peak Teddy Riley retardation.
He woud’ve done anything for some publicity back then. Said the vocals are MJ, then he said they are not. Then he said Burn Tonight is MJ (I think). Then he started about the MJ being alive stuff. He started blocking people on Twitter (including me) when we talked against him.

Good old times.
 

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There hasn't been proof shown. Mostly just feelings.
I literally posted you a detailed forensic analysis by one of the world’s leading forensic audiologists. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. Are you not aware of everything that’s been going on the last 12 years? Like I said, your clearly trolling.

Can you show some proof that the songs are Michael? No. You can’t.
 
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