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WTF? Book about Michael's death published BEFORE he died!

I have an ipod touch... it looks lik you just need a free app to use kindle books with it. I'm conflicted about buying it, though. I'm not really comfortable giving this person one penny, even though it's only $3.95.
 
Well, I think someone's going to have to in the long run and it doesn't seem like Kindle files are readable on computers (when they are, it's rare, from what I'm reading).
 
I downloaded the app and the sample (excerpt) of the book to make sure it works. It does.

It looks to me like the book is using Michael in an attack on the American Medical Association and "the military, industrial, pharmecutical 'newstainment' industry." It talks about doctors coming under harassment by the A.M.A. for using "treatments employed as an alternative to heart bypass such as chelation and hyperbolic oxygen". It doesn't seem to be about the actual events of Michael's death at all.

I have to go to work, so I can't look into the actual book right now. But I am able to download it and read it.
 
^ Well that's just an excerpt, I'm pretty sure they're not gonna give away their main points.
Anyway, thanks for getting it, it should be an 'interesting' read...
 
OK. I downloaded, and read, the whole book, if you can call it a book. Yes, the sample was pretty misleading! It really only mentioned the AMA in the excerpted Introduction. The "book" is a total hack job and much of it is written as if Michael were still alive, but I have to say, there were some surprises.

I'll get right to the main things:

-No mention of Propofol or Diprivan. There is a focus on Demerol and Celebrity doctors enabling dangerous prescription drug use.

-Mr. Simone does use Halperin as a major source, and devotes a good amount of text (considering how short the "book" is) to alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency (what, according to Halperin, caused a terminal lung disease). Simone also claims that he himself had an encounter with Michael as he was leaving a toy store,where he claims he asked Michael about the lung disease, and although Michael didn't answer, of course he made it sound like the question alarmed Michael, as if he was hiding something.

But wait.

-The Will is the same Will we've seen since July 1. It's the same as this (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0701091mjwill1.html), without the signatures and initials, through page 5.

-There is a chapter on Dr. Conrad Murray that appears, unlike most of the "book," to have been written after Michael's death. It's talks about Murray's financial problems and says he is being sought for questioning in the investigation of Michael's death.

It also mentions a TV crew at Murray's Las Vegas office in Friday, the 26th.

I will transcribe this chapter, as it is probably of the most interest - there is also talk about AEG.

Other than that, most of it is stuff fans have seen before in the tabloids. Skin cancer, flesh-eating virus... pretty much everything but lupus. The "Abuse of a Child" chapter is about the abuse (primarily mental) Michael experienced, not the molestation accusations. There is no mention on the Chandlers or the Arvisos, even in relation to the impact the accusations had on Michael. The "Occult" chapter says nothing earthshattering, and mostly looks at "Thriller" and Liberace.

About the only thing that wasn't totally rehashed (though I may have missed it elsewhere) was a rather exstesive section on - wait for it - UFOs. Simone describes tapes he aquired from another UFO expert supposedly unknowingly speaking to Michael, with Michael asking a lot of questions about the films "Close Encounters" and ET being based on real events. Simone goes on about the UFOs, even though he doesn't even try to tie it to Michael's death.

Anyway... there is more, but nothing major. I can take pictures of certain pages, if anyone wants proof of certain content, such as the Will.
 
harlequinn said:
OK. I downloaded, and read, the whole book, if you can call it a book. Yes, the sample was pretty misleading! It really only mentioned the AMA in the excerpted Introduction. The "book" is a total hack job and much of it is written as if Michael were still alive, but I have to say, there were some surprises.
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:wub: Thank you!!!

harlequinn said:
I'll get right to the main things:

-No mention of Propofol or Diprivan. There is a focus on Demerol and Celebrity doctors enabling dangerous prescription drug use.
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Interesting, considering one of the earliest mentions of Nurse Cherilyn Lee and her Propofol claim is on June 30.

harlequinn said:
-Mr. Simone does use Halperin as a major source, and devotes a good amount of text (considering how short the "book" is) to alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency (what, according to Halperin, caused a terminal lung disease). Simone also claims that he himself had an encounter with Michael as he was leaving a toy store,where he claims he asked Michael about the lung disease, and although Michael didn't answer, of course he made it sound like the question alarmed Michael, as if he was hiding something.
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I presume he's talking about this toy store visit: http://www.mjjpictures.com/2009/various/tomstoys/tomstoys.html

The fact that he quotes Halperin makes it seem like this is just some random tabloid book... At least until I read this...


harlequinn said:
But wait.

-The Will is the same Will we've seen since July 1. It's the same as this (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0701091mjwill1.html), without the signatures and initials, through page 5.
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Did they transcribe the will or did they have a regular copy of it that just happened to somehow not include MJ's initials?

harlequinn said:
-There is a chapter on Dr. Conrad Murray that appears, unlike most of the "book," to have been written after Michael's death. It's talks about Murray's financial problems and says he is being sought for questioning in the investigation of Michael's death.

It also mentions a TV crew at Murray's Las Vegas office in Friday, the 26th.
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Wtf? Then how... The review... WHAT? o_O

harlequinn said:
I will transcribe this chapter, as it is probably of the most interest - there is also talk about AEG.

Other than that, most of it is stuff fans have seen before in the tabloids. Skin cancer, flesh-eating virus... pretty much everything but lupus. The "Abuse of a Child" chapter is about the abuse (primarily mental) Michael experienced, not the molestation accusations. There is no mention on the Chandlers or the Arvisos, even in relation to the impact the accusations had on Michael. The "Occult" chapter says nothing earthshattering, and mostly looks at "Thriller" and Liberace.
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I'm surprised they never talked about the 1993 & 2003 stuff.

harlequinn said:
About the only thing that wasn't totally rehashed (though I may have missed it elsewhere) was a rather exstesive section on - wait for it - UFOs. Simone describes tapes he aquired from another UFO expert supposedly unknowingly speaking to Michael, with Michael asking a lot of questions about the films "Close Encounters" and ET being based on real events. Simone goes on about the UFOs, even though he doesn't even try to tie it to Michael's death.

Anyway... there is more, but nothing major. I can take pictures of certain pages, if anyone wants proof of certain content, such as the Will.
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Not surprised about the UFO stuff. Rob Simone is well known for stuff like that.
 
^^ :lol: Thanks, but honestly I do wish the Jacksons would see this. Even if it turns out to be just a bunch of mistakes that are making Rob Simone look bad or just giving the book some buzz, I'd rather everything be found out for sure. :no: I don't think Michael Bush is paying attention to my message. As I posted before (but I don't think anyone saw), I've been thinking of contacting Omer Bhatti (he seems to respond to people a lot on Twitter, so maybe Facebook, as well). Do you guys think I should? :unsure:
 
Just found a site that's reviewing the book on June 27 as if it's already available for sale (and mentions the Texas reviewer):

http://boeken.blog.nl/actueel/2009/...-of-michael-jackson-eerste-boek-al-verschenen

Michael Jackson was amper een paar uur overleden toen het eerste boek over zijn dood al in de Amazon’s Kindle store te krijgen was. Althans zo wordt ‘The Mysterious Death of Michael Jackson’ van Rob Simone genoemd. Geen enkele uitgever kan hier natuurlijk tegenop, maar is het echt een must-have voor de fans van The King of Pop?

Als we Just a Dreamer mogen geloven niet. Volgens deze lezer uit Texas betaal je de prijs van een boek, maar gaat het om een artikel van een paar pagina’s over het misbruik van door de arts voorgeschreven medicijnen. De auteur van ‘The Mysterious Death of Michael Jackson’ wil volgens hem gewoon verdienen aan de hype na het overlijden.

Book Byer uit Los Angeles daarentegen zegt dat hij nu beter snapt hoe het is gegaan. Volgens deze lezer schijnt deze ‘quick read’ een licht op een probleem waar duizenden Amerikanen mee te maken hebben. Tja, maar daarmee weten we toch niets over het overlijden van The King of Pop. Daar kunnen we ook nog niet veel van weten, want er zal op aandringen van de familie nog een tweede autopsie plaatsvinden. Uit de eerste is namelijk niet gebleken wat de fatale hartstilstand van Jackson heeft veroorzaakt.
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Google's translation from Dutch to English:

http://translate.google.com/transla...k-al-verschenen&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

Michael Jackson was just a few hours when the deceased first book about his death as early as the Amazon's Kindle store to be had. At least that is "The Mysterious Death of Michael Jackson 'by Rob Simone said. No publisher can of course compete with, but is it a must-have for fans of The King of Pop?

Just a Dreamer If we are to believe not. According to this reader from Texas, you pay the price of the book, but it is an article from a few pages about the abuse of medication prescribed by your doctor. The author of "The Mysterious Death of Michael Jackson" he just wants money from the hype after death.

Book from Los Angeles however Byer says he now better understands how it went. According to this reader seems this "quick read" a light on a problem that thousands of Americans face. Yeah, but that we know nothing about the death of The King of Pop. We can also not much of it, because there will be pressure from the family still held half autopsy. The first is not demonstrated the fatal cardiac arrest caused by Jackson.
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Also, the cover is different and excludes a mention of the will.

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Edit: Just found a Google cache of the book's original publish date, as recorded on July 16, 2009. The book has been removed from the site since then.

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All I can say, guys, WOW! All of You WOW! So proud knowing you all. If you ever loose your jobs, know that PI is an option lol

I'm shocked about the will. How the hell he knew? Sorry for your 4 bucks Harlequinn
 
Google Cache of SpotCost - As it appears on August 8, 2009

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But, if you go to the link for the item, it's gone: http://spotcost.com/prices/B002EQAZ3K/

If you search Rob Simone, it seems to be the only item of his that's been removed from their site.


Found another Amazon-related site (I think michaeljacksondvd.us was a site owned by Amazon, as everything seems to connect to Amazon and the layout seems the same as this site, though I'm not absolutely sure) that has the book removed:

Google Cache of MJMahalo.com's listing of the book - Captured August 12

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Fun, yet another that was removed sometime this month. Also seems to be tied with Amazon.

Google Cache of BookDruggie's listing of the book on August 3

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...And another...

Custom-LeatherWorks' listing of Rob Simone's books (including TMDoMJ) taken on August 9

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Anooother...

Google Cache of SAP Books' listing of TMDoMJ taken on July 7

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Google Cache of BookFind's listing of TMDoMJ taken on August 3 - I don't know whether or not the book is still there because when I search for anything, I get a message I cannot read (and Google can't translate it either)

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Interestingly enough, I found one that was updated this Wednesday (August 19) that did NOT have a listing (despite it being mentioned in the Google search description). Were all of these removed because of my phone call?

Google Cache of Arenta Book Store's listing of Michael Jackson books (which previously included TMDoMJ according to Google's description) taken August 19 (Note: Just to make sure, when I searched Rob Simone, all of his stuff came up EXCEPT TMDoMJ)
 
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Rawr said:
Did they transcribe the will or did they have a regular copy of it that just happened to somehow not include MJ's initials?
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It appears it was transcribed. If you look at this screenshot, you can see that the word "Siegel" is not capitalized, as it is in the published will with the initials.

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Rawr said:
Wtf? Then how... The review... WHAT? o_O
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I know... to be accurate, it doesn't say "June 26." It says Friday. There are not actual dates in this section. It's written in a current tense, placing it a couple of days after Michael's death. It also mentions that they would be leaving for London "next week."

Here are shots of two times the Friday after Michael's death is mentioned:

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It's fishy, now they all of a sudden remove it from various listings and edit publication dates? Something stinks here as hell.
 
I'm wondering if it's possible for an author or publisher to alter the title like an eBay listing, and if the Kindle file can be changed after it's listed. Like, maybe the book was called something like "They Mysterious Life of Michael Jackson" and was listed on June 24, and the title was changed on the 25th? The contents of the book are consistent with a book about Michael being "mysterious" in general, including (among othe things that were non-health related) possibly hiding a terminal illness and prescription drug abuse.

I'm more curious about the June 26th reviewers now. Didn't they read the Dr. Murray section and go "wait... this is about TODAY" (or even the next day)? Or was that part even there at the the time?
 
harlequinn said:
I'm wondering if it's possible for an author or publisher to alter the title like an eBay listing, and if the Kindle file can be changed after it's listed. Like, maybe the book was called something like "They Mysterious Life of Michael Jackson" and was listed on June 24, and the title was changed on the 25th? The contents of the book are consistent with a book about Michael being "mysterious" in general, including (among othe things that were non-health related) possibly hiding a terminal illness and prescription drug abuse.

I'm more curious about the June 26th reviewers now. Didn't they read the Dr. Murray section and go "wait... this is about TODAY" (or even the next day)? Or was that part even there at the the time?
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I wrote her and got email from her but she was more about how shitish the "book" was. There is another reviewer who clearly states that book was publisshed before the death. I just can't find the way to get int ouch with her/him.
 
harlequinn said:
It appears it was transcribed. If you look at this screenshot, you can see that the word "Siegel" is not capitalized, as it is in the published will with the initials.

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I know... to be accurate, it doesn't say "June 26." It says Friday. There are not actual dates in this section. It's written in a current tense, placing it a couple of days after Michael's death. It also mentions that they would be leaving for London "next week."

Here are shots of two times the Friday after Michael's death is mentioned:

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I'd definitely presume that it's June 26, since the police were talking to Connie by Monday, right? I don't remember the timeline that much. It's all really a blur.

Regardless, it appears based on reviews pretty much everywhere that this book came out before the will did.

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It's fishy, now they all of a sudden remove it from various listings and edit publication dates? Something stinks here as hell.
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I know. Some of these don't even have the publishing date on them. :huh: You'd think those would be left up.
 
We need to take control of this situation. We are the ones that love Michael and know what :angel: and who he is. You will not tell us just anything and think we will just believe it.

:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

They have really underestimated the love we have for Michael, our shitty. And they underestimated Michael. They thought he was so naive, but what the fail to understand is the power of love. And Michael gave it in abundance. They could never see where his true power lay. Why do we all love Michael soooo much? Think about it. Through his love for us (an unconditional love) he helped the ones that needed help, he inspired the ones that needed inspiration, he saved the ones that needed saving, he and helped those whom where lost find themselves. Really, I have read so many testimonials that tell how Michael literally saved them. Me, he has transformed. I now know what my purpose is in life, and through the grace of God I will fulfill my purpose. I owe Michael so much and I am positive a lot of you feel the same way. The love he gave us is so powerful. It is the type of love that God wants all of us to give. And we know it, that's why Michael's connection with us is so strong. The evil people that took Michael away from us can't even begin to comprehend it. And this is why we are so powerful and we have to channel that love that Michael gave us toward one central objective. That is, to not let these Murders get away with this. I know these people will have to stand before God and explain why they did what they did.

But, just one time I want to see justice served here on earth as well. :pray:

Michael deserves this from us. He gave us so much. These people took things to a whole other level and Now it is time we get on their level. They are playing for keeps. Michael is gone and he will NEVER come back. This is a reality.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74045
 
Starlight said:
I wrote her and got email from her but she was more about how shitish the "book" was. There is another reviewer who clearly states that book was publisshed before the death. I just can't find the way to get int ouch with her/him.
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Do you think she would mind another query? I don't want her to feel harassed, but I really want to know on what date she downloaded the kindle and if the Conrad Murray segment and the Will were included.
 
Rawr said:
I'd definitely presume that it's June 26, since the police were talking to Connie by Monday, right? I don't remember the timeline that much. It's all really a blur.
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In context, it is absolutely referring to June 26. No question. I just wanted to note that it didn't actually say "June 26" in the book for accuracy, because I implied it said the actual date.
 
harlequinn said:
Do you think she would mind another query? I don't want her to feel harassed, but I really want to know on what date she downloaded the kindle and if the Conrad Murray segment and the Will were included.
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I got a reply from her saying it was a trashy book and that it was not released before Michael's death.

I've sent her another email here:

Sorry about all the emails from us MJ fans. I know how some of us can
be, lol. I hope it isn't bothering you too much.

May I ask when was the exact date and time you downloaded it and was
Michael's will & details about Conrad Murray included?

We're trying to develop a timeline and see if the book was heavily
edited at any point.


In case you're wondering why we're all investigating this book so
late: I called up Amazon on Sunday morning, August 16 when the
publishing date was still June 24, 2009, and they redirected my
information to Amazon Kindle, who I was to call the next day. By the
time I woke up, the date was changed to July 24, 2009. I tried asking
questions about the date change, but the customer service rep didn't
know anything and forwarded my information to Amazon Marketing, who
has not contacted me back yet (if they ever will). I called up Amazon
Kindle again and the customer service rep spoke to me frankly and said
that most likely they will not be able to answer my questions due to
legalities.

I talked to someone at Headroom publishing and they seemed somewhat
hesitant to answer my questions directly and honestly.

We've also found that it seems Amazon/Rob Simone/Headroom (whoever is
responsible) has eradicated almost all evidence, except for on
Amazon.com and one or two sites (versus the 6-10 that advertised it in
the past) of the book. Most of the sites were affiliated or connected
with Amazon in some way. Based upon information we've gathered from
Google Cache (a part of Google that creates archives of websites every
few weeks/days), it seems that the books were wiped from these
websites within a few days after I called.

Most of the fans are just not happy about this. We feel as if there is
some piece to the puzzle missing before we find out whether or not
this is a dead end or something much more. We feel that since Michael
gave us so much (through his music, dance, charitable actions, and
even personal friendships), that we should help him out when he cannot
help himself.

Once again, my apologies for all of these emails from us, but you seem
to be our only hope at this point. I do hope you understand.


Thank you,
Gabi
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harlequinn said:
Do you think she would mind another query? I don't want her to feel harassed, but I really want to know on what date she downloaded the kindle and if the Conrad Murray segment and the Will were included.
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I wrote her the second email, she didn't reply. I think she is not keen on corresponding with us anymore :( Maybe you'll have better luck ... oh well ....
 
soz i've been gone a while - This is too wierd

soz to be a nuisance but could somebody give me a brief update of what has happened in the past couple of days?
 
LukeNo.1MJFan! said:
soz i've been gone a while - This is too wierd

soz to be a nuisance but could somebody give me a brief update of what has happened in the past couple of days?
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i'm afraid you'll have to read all new posts to get a general idea :)
 
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