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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by #MJforever57 View Post
    It a lesson we all mush learn and that is not to trust anybody.
    I have trust issues with people anyways, even my own family. I trust very few people.
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Unfortunately, Michael never learned any lesson, especially after the 1993 case, and during the 2002 trip and recording him (by Ratner), he met the Arvizos and later Martin Bashir, so what a lesson?

    Its really sad that Michael never learned any lesson.

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveHIStory View Post
    Its really sad that Michael never learned any lesson.
    I agree but it is also something I find rather admirable in his character.

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    If I remember correctly, MJ met the Arvizos in 2000, (I need to check the time line) Chris Tucker met Michael through them in 2001 and when Ratner made that interview it was in 2003. He was brutally and thoroughly stabbed in the back by then. It's quite admirable he still had a profound love for humankind in 2009 despite of seeing their ugliest and cruelest side of them towards him though.

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Yeah if only mj had trusted no one.but he didnt have it in him to see the bad in people only the good.😯

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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    Yeah if only mj had trusted no one.but he didnt have it in him to see the bad in people only the good.��

    This say it all Michael had a kind heart he could never say no he trust ppls.
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    What a sad world... Teach your children to trust absolutely noone..??

    There should be more people like MJ who dared to love, dared to trust.

    I will not teach my children not to trust anyone. - They should be aware that some might try to use them or trick them, but that doesn't mean they should think every person on the planet is evil and can not be trusted...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveHIStory View Post
    Unfortunately, Michael never learned any lesson, especially after the 1993 case, and during the 2002 trip and recording him (by Ratner), he met the Arvizos and later Martin Bashir, so what a lesson?

    Its really sad that Michael never learned any lesson.
    Why do you think he trusted the Arvizos? He didn't actually. He kept his distance from them. The only time he provably slept in the same room as the Arvizo kids he also asked Frank to sleep there as well. The Arvizos just made up the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Why do you think he trusted the Arvizos? He didn't actually. He kept his distance from them. The only time he provably slept in the same room as the Arvizo kids he also asked Frank to sleep there as well. The Arvizos just made up the rest.
    well, the Arvizos were the beginning of the downfall, then Bashir, then all those advisors and selftitled managers and at the end of all.... Murray...., every name on the list ... the traitor.

    It seemed like MJ had been surrounded by only wrong, greedy traitors, he was simply lost, alone and gone... but for some mysterious reasons he trusted them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by #MJforever57 View Post
    This say it all Michael had a kind heart he could never say no he trust ppls.
    Even the bible say DO NOT PUT YOUR TRUST IN MAN FOR HE WILL DECEIVE YOU. After 1993, MJ should not have trusted no one to come into his home and certainly not any of his rooms not even small midgets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveHIStory View Post
    well, the Arvizos were the beginning of the downfall, then Bashir, then all those advisors and selftitled managers and at the end of all.... Murray...., every name on the list ... the traitor.

    It seemed like MJ had been surrounded by only wrong, greedy traitors, he was simply lost, alone and gone... but for some mysterious reasons he trusted them....
    Yet people who loved MJ could not meet him easy.
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Speaking of the bible, there's mention in there about falsely accusing too.
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    They must have missed that part of the bible. Should he not have trusted anybody? Perhaps but then he wouldn't have been Michael Jackson. He wouldn't have given as much to the world as a humanitarian as he did. That kind of compassion doesn't have an on off switch. Unfortunatly sometines they do pay a price for that compassion. But lets not forget it was the Arvizo's, the Santa Barbara DA and the press who jumped on it and decided to twist the truth and turn empathy into something more sinister that they could all profit off of. They also had a duty to tell the truth which they turned their back on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoP View Post
    Speaking of the bible, there's mention in there about falsely accusing too.
    That is a commandment "BEARING FALSE WITNESS TOWARDS YOUR NEIGHBOR".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahJ View Post
    They must have missed that part of the bible. Should he not have trusted anybody? Perhaps but then he wouldn't have been Michael Jackson. He wouldn't have given as much to the world as a humanitarian as he did. That kind of compassion doesn't have an on off switch. Unfortunatly sometines they do pay a price for that compassion. But lets not forget it was the Arvizo's, the Santa Barbara DA and the press who jumped on it and decided to twist the truth and turn empathy into something more sinister that they could all profit off of. They also had a duty to tell the truth which they turned their back on.
    That is why Michael will wear his crown in glory. Even look, no matter how people come at MJ, MJ still rise and is still love. Man is evil due to sin (we all just have to deal with sin and sinful but they will never bring us down. I do believe God gave MJ warnings but he did not listen even with his death-he was warned NOT to use that drug for sleep, that is your warning and when we do not listen, we pay for it because we are all given FREE WILL ). But Michael was a good man and he will wear his crown in Christ. Look there are people who were not born when MJ was alive and those kids love Michael.
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