I don't think those Glenda tapes are real lol
Maybe they are real, but to me it does not sound like Michael. And the distortion doesn't help. I'm not sure if it was put there intentionally or if it is because the tapes are old, but it does not help with determining their authenticity at all.
Maybe they are real, but to me it does not sound like Michael. And the distortion doesn't help. I'm not sure if it was put there intentionally or if it is because the tapes are old, but it does not help with determining their authenticity at all.
let me address this claim of them being like the Cascio tracks. No, they aren't. I don't think the Cascio songs are real, but these tapes are IMO. It's totally MJ's speaking voice and the way he spoke.
You act like my reply was only about my subjective opinion about what I hear when it was only two lines of my answer and then I went on to explain the objective circumstances that point to them being real.
If you want to have a well founded opinion on anything you will have to consider all circumstances and not just gut feelings
How we subjectively hear things is very similar to a gut feeling though, especially when people hear different things when listening to the same thing - it is subjective and as such, due to its subjectivity its "evdiential value" actually isn't strong. That's why I consider additional info as well. That's not different to me in the case of the Cascio tracks - the difference is that the additional info points to a totally different direction in case of the Cascio tracks than in the case of the Glenda tapes.
I don't think I didn't respect your opinion. In fact, I gave you enough respect to explain my position in detail instead of LOLing and comparing it to the Cascio situation with a mocking tone.
^ It would make no sense to be fake.. I mean, the homework to go into it vs. the outcome result would not pay off.. Why dig that much to re create an MJ conversation, bringing up people, moments, and various things that could be time stamped realistically.. The voice, the personality behind the voice.. All that for what?
So exactly like the reaction to the Cascio songs LOL! Everyone was coming out, like you are doing now, with 'oh it's totally MJ's singing voice' and as compelling an argument as that may be (LOL) it's simply not good enough and it was the only comparison I was making between the two situations. Your post earlier in this thread stated as a matter of fact that they were authentic whereas it is merely your opinion that they are. You cannot be surprised that something like that will provoke a reaction.
I have zero interest in the circumstances surrounding the Glenda tapes nor the content of them because I trust my own ear and it just doesn't sound like him to me. It's as simple and unsophisticated as that. You, and others, are reflecting on the content of the tapes to support or refute their authenticity but my conclusions are drawn solely from the sound of the voice on the tape and nothing to do with what's said. Of course the 'Michael voice' on these tapes is nowhere near as clear as it is on the Cascio songs so I await something of strong evidential value that may convince me that it's him - this is something I'd frankly never do for the Cascio songs as I have 0% doubt on those.
I wonder how many "skeptics" who are so convinced they can recognise MJ's voice anywhere would believe 2000 Watts was really him if it came out after his death.
What would be strong evidential value for you, considering you don't think the context or content of these tapes are relevant? We have pictures of Michael with the Stein family. We have the Stein family confirming these tapes are real. We have the tapes coming out in Michael's lifetime and Michael not denying them. We have the Stein family not trying to profit off these tapes or their association with Michael. And most importantly, we have common sense indicating these tapes are real because there is simply no logical explanation to fake them. If these tapes are not real, it means that three adults and three children conspired to get together to have a three-hour long conversation about mundane topics like Michael's tour itinerary, what Sam Stein got for father's day, a nearly 10-minute long conversation of a little girl talking about a movie she liked, etc. and then sit on those tapes for 10+ years before finally releasing them on a now-defunct website. If you're a hardcore skeptic you probably believe the Stein family's pictures with Michael are fake as well, so they'd have to find a way to photoshop Michael in using a picture of him that no one else has ever seen before. And if the pictures are not fake, then a family that actually knew Michael decided to fake three hours of conversation with him. All that effort for what?
If there were actually explosive revelations on these tapes or if the Stein family tried to profit off them, I would be a little more skeptical even if it does sound like Michael to me.
I also don't think it makes sense to base your opinion entirely on trusting your own ear, since the sound on a two decades old amateur recording may be a bit distorted. I've heard other phone conversations with Michael on YT and he sounds a little different each time, but still unquestionably Michael. Even disregarding the sound of his voice on the Glenda tapes, the mannerisms, the accent, the choice of words, the chuckles etc. is still obviously Michael to me. It's hard to fake that three hours long.
Since you asked me a question directly, perhaps a clearer tape?