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Motions to exclude certain topics at Katherine Jackson vs AEG Trial

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Alan Duke@AlanDukeCNN
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Judge in Jacksons v. AEG sets April 2 hearing to consider CNN request for cameras in the trial.
 
Rhilo said:
^Talk about it...smh...what they put little Michael through was way worse, and illegal by today's standards. Even till the very end and under the influence of Murray's cocktail, it's all Michael complained about. Yet Katherine and Joseph, along with many of his siblings have the nerve to downplay the abuse that haunted him to the end. They all disgust me.
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Story of their lives. They love to blame everyone else, but man in the mirror is totally stranger to them.

I so wish that AEG could sue this so called "family" for child abuse, not getting appropriate help for Mj when his sleeping problem appeared. The first reason MJ died is that they ignored MJ's sleep problem all of his childhood into adulthood. We would still have MJ if they were interested in getting help for it, but it was more important to get him on stage and make money. He wouldn't have needed CM or other doctor if his insomnia was treated in time.



Annita said:
Alan Duke@AlanDukeCNN
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Judge in Jacksons v. AEG sets April 2 hearing to consider CNN request for cameras in the trial.
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How many times is he allowed to ask. hes already asked before and was denied.
 
So this is Katherine's way of protecting Michael's legacy? The Jackson's know Alan Duke but they aren't asking him to give up the tv broadcast idea? Way to go Jackson's! When AEG brings up the molestation charges and drug addiction , the tabloids will broadcast it worldwide. The Michael Jackson Estate has to pay all these legal fees for you plus they will have to clean up this giant mess you make.

Family of the year!!!!!!!! *sarcasm*
 
jaydom7 said:
They all disgust me too
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One person I have come to respect is Marlon Jackson. He gave a wonderful short eulogy at the Memorial right before Paris spoke. Jermaine mumbled something about "I was his voice" (WTF??) but Marlon really said SOMETHING. He talked about how no one could know what it was like not to be able to cross the street without a crowd gathering--and he said "How much pain can one person take." and "Maybe now they'll leave you alone." I thought he spoke well. He and Mike were close in age (17 months apart), and shared a bunk bed together in Gary house when they were little. Marlon also left the group a year after Michael did and had a successful career in real estate. He is still married to the same woman.
 
ilmjj said:
So this is Katherine's way of protecting Michael's legacy? The Jackson's know Alan Duke but they aren't asking him to give up the tv broadcast idea? Way to go Jackson's! When AEG brings up the molestation charges and drug addiction , the tabloids will broadcast it worldwide. The Michael Jackson Estate has to pay all these legal fees for you plus they will have to clean up this giant mess you make.


Family of the year!!!!!!!! *sarcasm*
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imo they want as much attention as possible. either for a late settlement or to make more money giving interviews as tv broadcasting will create more attention and intrest. duke is no doubt doing their bidding
 
elusive moonwalker said:
imo they want as much attention as possible. either for a late settlement or to make more money giving interviews as tv broadcasting will create more attention and intrest. duke is no doubt doing their bidding
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I agree with you. The Jackson's want this broadcast. I swear to God this is the most dysfunctional family in the US. I just can't believe they think this is getting any kind of justice for Michael or getting to the truth. I think David Walgren had Michael's best interest at heart more than his own family.

This is going to get bloody for Michael (and for us :( ) AEG is not gonna spare any punches here.
 
Victory22 said:
I think neither KJ or AEG are willing to cancel at this point. KJ because the cubs are sucking at her breast for green milk and AEG because they are not willing to allow the Jackson's to trash their reputation and strong arm them for cash. I think this trial is a go and it's a real shame for MJ and the kids.
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I believe that too. At this point it seems no one wants to back down, & how could AEG do so after publicly stating they would not settle. If they do so now it would look as though they had something to hide, which happened to Michael with the settlements. They will parade a list of experts who will swear all kinds of things and scenarios about Michael depended on which side is paying them. The media will have a very good time.

Why is this judge having a hearing now after she already said no cameras? Is she looking for some point in an argument that would sway her to change her mind. The good thing about cameras is that we could see the actual trial & not depend on the media, but that only works if the footage is continuous & not edited.
 
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Oh God, there it comes. If this really is the case itll be bad, and this time criminally bad:busted:
 
Rhilo said:
Paris and Prince acknowledging Latoya's tacky beverage launch, but not the anniversery of one of their father's biggest albums says a lot. They were 14 and 15 when they decided to shun Bad25 and even unfollow their father's official twitter account shortly after, in Paris' case.
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I knew they didn't acknowledge Bad25 but didn't know they unfollowed their father's twitter acct. This is a difficult situation because it shows that they're probably listening to people they shouldn't but at the same time, like you say, they were 14 & 15.
 
jamba said:
So maybe we should hope they win this lawsuit and get the $40 billion so they will drop PPB??? Will that satisfy them??
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Of course the Jacksons will be satisfied with the money. But would it be good the kids be dropped like water balloons? And as much as I want Auntie Toya not to mix the children with her friends, to drop them just like that it will be hurtful for them and they don't deserve that.
 
The kids should remember that when their grandma was taken away for awhile that the estate helped and protected them as best they could. I hope they don't believe everything the jacksons say.
 
marebear said:
The kids should remember that when their grandma was taken away for awhile that the estate helped and protected them as best they could. I hope they don't believe everything the jacksons say.
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I hope for that too
 
Aquarius said:
Of course the Jacksons will be satisfied with the money. But would it be good the kids be dropped like water balloons? And as much as I want Auntie Toya not to mix the children with her friends, to drop them just like that it will be hurtful for them and they don't deserve that.
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I used the word 'drop' meaning drop them as a means of selling products, using them to gain income.
 
I don't want this on tv. The Murray trial was different and I wanted people to see and hear for themselves what Murray did to Michael. I know some might want to see it but not me.
 
Updated info

AEG

excluded in part - allowed in part - Motion 1 - AEG's financial position

excluded (motion granted) - Motion 2 - Gongaware & Segal's personal relationship

excluded in part - allowed in part - Motion 3 - Irrelevant interactions between AEG and Michael

excluded (motion granted) - Motion 4 - Hypothetical evidence of TII cancellation or postponement

excluded in part - allowed in part - Motion 5 - Murray's character as it pertains to his personal life

Reference to strip clubs or clubs are excluded. Debt - child support, credit cards and so on- is allowed.

deferred - Motion 6 - Speculative Damages

allowed (motion denied)- Motion 7 - Michael being drunk before 02 Press conference

Katherine Jackson

allowed (motion denied) - Motion 1 - Molestation charges

excluded(motion granted) - Motion 2 - Benefits received by KJ after MJ's death

excluded(motion granted) - Motion 3 - Marital discord between Katherine and Joe - non opposed

??? allowed(motion denied)- Motion 4 - Michael's siblings have or had financial problems

!!! This is conflicting to what media reported, media reported it was excluded.

motion granted - Motion 5 - Allowing electronic presentations on opening statements (I omitted this one)

allowed (motion denied) - Motion 6 - David Fournier Testimony

excluded (motion granted)- Motion 7 - MJ Estate did not sue AEG or anyone else in Michael's death

allowed (motion denied)- Motion 8 - KJ did not file a suit against Murray

excluded (motion granted) - Motion 9 - Biological parents of minor children - non opposed

excluded in part - allowed in part -Motion 10 - Katherine being kidnapped to Arizona

AEG cannot refer to Katherine's "kidnapping" but they can reference her trip to Arizona in the context that Katherine's health was/is deteriorating and that's why she traveled to Arizona. Judge allows this as this is relevant to Katherine's longevity and damages.

Document here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/132713798/Order-on-Motions-in-Limine

[scribd]132713798[/scribd]
 
??? allowed(motion denied)- Motion 4 - Michael's siblings have or had financial problems

I am SO glad that they are allowing this to be included...THIS IS the whole reason for this lawsuit. KJ said so herself when she used the word "financial".
 
ivy said:
Updated info

excluded in part - allowed in part -Motion 10 - Katherine being kidnapped to Arizona

AEG cannot refer to Katherine's "kidnapping" but they can reference her trip to Arizona in the context that Katherine's health was/is deteriorating and that's why she traveled to Arizona. Judge allows this as this is relevant to Katherine's longevity and damages.
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So, AEG can only mention Katherine went there to relax? So no mention of the siblings wanted to overturn the Estate/put Katherine under a conservatorship? Or can they mention that as well but not using the term "kidnapping".

Then whats the point for AEG to mention Arizona if they cant mention what I wrote above.
 
Vici said:
So, AEG can only mention Katherine went there to relax? So no mention of the siblings wanted to overturn the Estate/put Katherine under a conservatorship? Or can they mention that as well but not using the term "kidnapping".

Then whats the point for AEG to mention Arizona if they cant mention what I wrote above.
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They can only mention that Katherine's health was / is deteriorating and she went to Arizona to a spa to relax / rest.

The interesting part here if you remember some Jacksons claimed Katherine had a mini-stroke, some claimed she did not. If she didn't have a mini-stroke but the some of the Jacksons faked a stroke, now that will work to their disadvantage.
 
ivy said:
allowed (motion denied)- Motion 7 - Michael being drunk before 02 Press conference

allowed (motion denied) - Motion 1 - Molestation charges

allowed (motion denied) - Motion 6 - David Fournier Testimony
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Oh God... We need to be ready to see Michael being dragged thru the mud again :cry:

deferred - Motion 6 - Speculative Damages
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Deferred? So what this mean?

allowed(motion denied)- Motion 4 - Michael's siblings have or had financial problems
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I hope this is correct. That's the only good news...
 
It's strange that the judge allowed siblings' financial problems mentioned - this seems to have very little to do with the case of negligent hiring of Murray. Can this be a mistake in the document?
 
Nathy MJ said:
Deferred? So what this mean?
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judge did not made a decision on the spot. she will make a decision in the upcoming days.

morinen said:
It's strange that the judge allowed siblings' financial problems mentioned - this seems to have very little to do with the case of negligent hiring of Murray. Can this be a mistake in the document?
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could be, that's why I put ??? and said it's different from what media reported.
 
Well, I hope the jury notice that Katherine 's only reason to sue is to leave the money to his children. She with her health issues & and her children with their financial problems, who's going to benefit with the money?

The lottery tv ad say, all you need is a dollar & a dream, the Jacksons have a dream now they only need a dollar. How I wish the jury award them a dollar.
 
About this: allowed (motion denied)- Motion 8 - KJ did not file a suit against Murray--I thought the judge had said before that they could not talk about that? Didn't she say the same question could be asked of AEG?

So Michael being drunk the night before the announcement is in, & AEG has to pretend that Katherine went to Arizona for a rest when her TV written statement, her children various statements, her lawyer's statement do not all say the same thing. Somehow part of the trial will be a comedy show.

Poor Michael can't even get drunk, but that is exactly what I will be if we get a favorable verdict.
 
morinen said:
Katherine is not the defendant, so her motive is not relevant to the case.
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well we can see that AEG's plan to say "they didn't sue Murray because he didn't have money, they are coming after us because we have the money, they are in debt that's why they want money and that's why they came up with an exaggerated damages"

don't you think it's relevant in determining damages?
 
ivy said:
well we can see that AEG's plan to say "they didn't sue Murray because he didn't have money, they are coming after us because we have the money, they are in debt that's why they want money and that's why they came up with an exaggerated damages"

don't you think it's relevant in determining damages?
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Relevant to everything they do, in my opinion. Like everyone else on here I suspect, I worry about the culture Michael's children are surrounded with now. I pray the qualities instilled in them by their Dad sustain them not just through these unsettling times, but for all time. Do they know, I wonder, what some of the 'ammunition' in their grandmother's case has the potential to do to their Dad's image/legacy? Not to his fans, of course, but to the headline hungry media? Do they wonder why members of his own family would expose him to this - especially on top of the criminal trial?

It gives me so much pain just thinking about this. :boohoo
 
ivy said:
well we can see that AEG's plan to say "they didn't sue Murray because he didn't have money, they are coming after us because we have the money, they are in debt that's why they want money and that's why they came up with an exaggerated damages"

don't you think it's relevant in determining damages?
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The compensation is supposed to be determined based on guilt and the amount of damage, not based on how much money your relatives (who are not even plaintiffs) need to pay debts. It's just by other motions I see that the judge tries to keep the topic strictly on the case matter, and this one stands out. We'll see.
 
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