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Did Jordan Chandler Admit That MJ Did Not Molest Him?

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Yes, that too is frustrating. No wonder why Michael was and still is such a target for bullies. Bullies always prey on the vulnerable. And Michael was so vulnerable because not even his family would put effort in it to look into those damn allegations and learn the facts to defend him effectively. They are too busy filing baseless lawsuits and trying to make money off Michael, rather than clear his name. So disappointing.

And is that what Marlon said? Almost as "good" as LMP's "I wasn't in the room" comment. Thank you very much.
 
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Sad that fans are better at defending MJ then his own family and dumb ex-wife!
 
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What really pisses me off is when some people say ''He may have been innocent but he brought it on himself''

So even if someone is opening minded enough to think that Michael is innocent they still have to twist it around to make it his fault. It's like these people are saying that the Chandlers and the Arvisos had no choice but to accuse Michael
 
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These people are like the ones who say if a woman gets raped that's her fault for dressing in a seducing way or something. Blame the victim mentality.
 
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respect77 said:
These people are like the ones who say if a woman gets raped that's her fault for dressing in a seducing way or something. Blame the victim mentality.
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yep!

all I hope for is that one day those who did MJ wrong, knowingly, will reap what they've sewn. Dimond and Sneddon knew the Arvizos were liars but they set that up right after Bashir aired and they know it. They willingly tortured an innocent man knowing the Arvizo's lied. I hope God punishes them in the worst way.. RIP Michael!!
 
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What really pisses me off is when some people say ''He may have been innocent but he brought it on himself''
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I hate that too, it really ticks me off
 
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What really pisses me off is when some people say ''He may have been innocent but he brought it on himself''
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What pisses me off even more is when people say, "Innocent or guilty, his behavior with children was innappropriate." Umm...ok so apparently helping sick children and saving a dying child's life (*cough*Gavin*cough*) is look down upon in our society.

I just think that so much filth and garbage fill people's minds these days that they cannot see the innocence in anything anymore like Michael did. THEY are the ones with dirty minds. Not Michael.
 
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Then there's those people who say ''Nobody will ever know the truth'' those kind of people need to shut the hell up cause it's obvious that they never did any research on these allegations. Cause anyone who has done the research can see clear as day that Michael was innoent.
 
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analogue said:
Then there's those people who say ''Nobody will ever know the truth'' those kind of people need to shut the hell up cause it's obvious that they never did any research on these allegations. Cause anyone who has done the research can see clear as day that Michael was innoent.
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Those are the lazy people.
 
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They say "we'll never know" because they want to believe it really is that open ended. I mean, in a way it's funny, because though they seem to still think he's guilty and though perhaps these same people were likely the ones who were saying he was guilty maybe for years, they must realize now that the evidence for him being guilty just isn't stacking up right anymore. Oprah said the same thing, "we'll never know." I thought Oprah did know??? It's just interesting to me because it suggests they realize he isn't as guilty as they likely believed he was, but they're still sort of resisting having to say he's innocent.
 
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analogue said:
What really pisses me off is when some people say ''He may have been innocent but he brought it on himself''

So even if someone is opening minded enough to think that Michael is innocent they still have to twist it around to make it his fault. It's like these people are saying that the Chandlers and the Arvisos had no choice but to accuse Michael
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That always reminds me of Diane Sawyer when she asked MJ "Is it over? Are you gonna make sure it doesn't happen again?" Like how he's going to make sure, it wasn't his fault. And sadly, it did happen again :/
If there's something MJ is guilty is that he trusted in the wrong people :no:
 
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I loved that Michael didn't fall for Diane Sawyers trap. When she asked Michael ''Are you sure your not gonna let this happen again?'' Michael responded with ''Make sure what doesn't happen again?''

Cause if Michael did say ''Yes, i'll make sure this won't happen again'' Diane could have come back with ''Oh so you do admit you molest Jordan?''. Michael saw through her trap
 
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I know right? I just loved his reaction.

DS: I just want to...is it over? Are you gonna make sure it doesn't happen again? I think, this is really the key thing people want to know.
Michael: Is what over?

DS: But are they over? Are you...are you going to watch out for it now?
Michael: Watch out for what?

DS: So you'll...you'll do it again?
Michael:...Do what again?

It was like a ping pong game, he was hitting all her "balls" back.
 
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His reaction to her questions just proved how innocent he was and how strong he was :)
 
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^ I bet she reported from the Sandusky case just to draw parallels to Michael. :smilerolleyes: Her obsession is sick already.
And if she really compared MJ to Sandusky that just shows she did not pay attention to either case. I followed both. They aren't even close. Actually the Sandusky case showed what it's like when a prosecution does have a case and does have credible witnesses and victims. And you know, the Sandusky prosecution didn't have to keep talking about nothing for four and a half months. They presented their case in a week and they won and the whole trial lasted for two weeks. Because there the prosecution had a case, they did not need to talk about nothing for months.

What did we have at the MJ trial? 85 prosecution witnesses, many of whom gave testimonies supporting MJ! (Debbie, the stewardesses, employees of Michael, such as Kiki Fournier and others). And those who supported the prosecution turned out to be low-life liars who took money from tabloids for their stories, who changed their stories all the time and who were utterly discredited on the stand. If Michael was a pedo where were all his victims? The Sandusky trial had 8 victims testifying, and they could have had much more (see: http://abcnews.go.com/US/sandusky-trial-include-alleged-victims/story?id=16631193#.T-XpkZFX3jE ). Compare that to Sneddon's desperate attempts to find more victims and he still could not! So because of the lack of victims he was forced to put third party witnesses on the stand, those low-life money-grabbing ex-employees, who testified they saw MJ molest people like Mac, Wade Robson, Brett Barnes. But then the defense called those young men and they testified that's all a lie and that MJ never molested them! And don't even get me started on Jason Francia, the only other alleged "victim" the prosecution managed to put on the stand... So how does any of this compare to Sandusky? Ridiculous.
 
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^^yup you guessed it. she claims that there are striking similarities. except for the verdict!

i would love to compare the testimonies but can't find sanduskys transcripts. it's funny, DD claims she has spoken to mjs victims who where too afraid to come forward. but no one asks her why her little friends didn't back up Gavin?
 
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I did not read Sandusky transcripts either but I followed the trial through media reports. I know those can be misleading, however the fact that Sandusky's own attorney said before the verdict that he would be shocked if it would be a "not guilty" verdict suggests that those media reports were more or less accurate about what was going on in that courtroom, unlike in MJ's case.

Sandusky's defense basically could not counter the allegations with anything. They put some character witnesses on the stand about what a good person Sandusky is, bla-bla-bla. His wife, and a young man who said he spent 5 years around Sandusky as a boy but he was never molested. Big deal. Nobody alleged about that particular boy that he was molested. The strongest evidence for the defense was maybe that audio tape which showed that investigators told Victim 4 about the allegations of other alleged victims in an effort to encourage him to come out with allegations as well. But even if that had the potential to maybe raise reasonable doubt about Victim 4's testimony in some juror's minds, they still had seven other alleged victims, so again, that did not change the bigger picture.

In MJ's case you had exculpatory testimony after exculpatory testimony. Evan from many prosecution witnesses! And those who testified against MJ were exposed as liars either on cross-examination or by defense witnesses.

So really the two cases could not be any further from each other.
 
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respect77 said:
I did not read Sandusky transcripts either but I followed the trial through media reports. I know those can be misleading, however the fact that Sandusky's own attorney said before the verdict that he would be shocked if it would be a "not guilty" verdict suggests that those media reports were more or less accurate about what was going on in that courtroom, unlike in MJ's case.

Sandusky's defense basically could not counter the allegations with anything. They put some character witnesses on the stand about what a good person Sandusky is, bla-bla-bla. His wife, and a young man who said he spent 5 years around Sandusky as a boy but he was never molested. Big deal. Nobody alleged about that particular boy that he was molested. The strongest evidence for the defense was maybe that audio tape which showed that investigators told Victim 4 about the allegations of other alleged victims in an effort to encourage him to come out with allegations as well. But even if that had the potential to maybe raise reasonable doubt about Victim 4's testimony in some juror's minds, they still had seven other alleged victims, so again, that did not change the bigger picture.

In MJ's case you had exculpatory testimony after exculpatory testimony. Evan from many prosecution witnesses! And those who testified against MJ were exposed as liars either on cross-examination or by defense witnesses.

So really the two cases could not be any further from each other.
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he's attorney actually said that? i fallowed the case but didn't hear that. i did however hear him say it was an expected verdict. aside from the trial, sanduskys interviews were so different from Michaels. you could hear the anger when MJ spoke
 
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^ Yes, he said that: http://abcnews.go.com/US/sandusky-lawyer-shocked-acquittal/story?id=16627618#.T-U7FZFX3jE

Jerry Sandusky's lawyer bluntly said today that he would be so shocked if his client is acquitted of sex abuse charges "I will probably die of a heart attack."
Joseph Amendola compared his chances of acquittal to the nerdy character in the movie "Dumb and Dumber" when the beautiful woman told him he had a one in a million chance of getting the girl, and the character rejoiced, "I have a chance."
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What Demon fake a$$ Dimond is still talking about MJ? Gee what at shocker! :smilerolleyes: She's an obessed basket case with nothin to back her rants up. So over this chick!
 
bouee said:
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The settlement was also about not talking publicly about that, for everyone involved. If he talks publicly I think he would be violating the settlement, whatever he wants to say, even if he wants to say that nothing ever happened. The only place where he could have done that is in a courtroom, or to the authorities.

I really don't know what would have been Michael's reaction if he had done that, or what would be the Estate's reaction now. If Jordan had talked publicly, I guess he would have to pay them back if they want to ?

Now if he says that nothing happened, he would be incriminating other people (his father, the lawyers, maybe lapd & prosecutors), I wonder what the consequences would be.
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This is pretty much it, they are required by law not to say anything about it.

I don't really get the hatred of Jordie Chandler, clearly he was stuck in this as much as anyone else. Maybe he did have a part in accusing MJ but he was also a minor. His parent forced it and that's hard to fight.

Also I wasn't looking for old threads but I just found this, thought it was relevant.
 
Courtney said:
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What pisses me off even more is when people say, "Innocent or guilty, his behavior with children was innappropriate." Umm...ok so apparently helping sick children and saving a dying child's life (*cough*Gavin*cough*) i
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😂 😂 😂
 
bluetopez said:
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What Demon fake a$$ Dimond is still talking about MJ? Gee what at shocker! :smilerolleyes: She's an obessed basket case with nothin to back her rants up. So over this chick!
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didnt you know shes a secret fan of mj .....her obsession of mj makes me laugh
 
Lucilla said:
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I know right? I just loved his reaction.

DS: I just want to...is it over? Are you gonna make sure it doesn't happen again? I think, this is really the key thing people want to know.
Michael: Is what over?

DS: But are they over? Are you...are you going to watch out for it now?
Michael: Watch out for what?

DS: So you'll...you'll do it again?
Michael:...Do what again?

It was like a ping pong game, he was hitting all her "balls" back.
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omg that interview pissed me off like theres no tomorrow! but i do wish he wouldve listened and stopped the sleepovers
 
He went there openly, not considering that it was negatively received outside
 
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