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Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson, a new trial to be held

Blues_Away2023 said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't that the point in the whole thing?

Robson and Safechuck can't go after a dead man so they go after his estate for neglect and for allowing Michael to abuse them?

If so, that's basically saying Michael was guilty? and his company did nothing to protect the minors whilst they stayed in his care?
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The point is money.
 
wendijane said:
It is the most painful ...thing ..it's just groundhog day to me :( i guess (god willing ,) we are gonna have to all stick like glue in the coming months. We might need a support thread.
@Hiker will we need that or is this thread fine enough?
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I support that idea. This (current) thread is about case updates. It would serve a purpose to have somewhere to vent emotions.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Dang it! I didn't see that.

You have more of a handle on this thing than I do. I'm not on TwitterX. Still trying to decide whether to sign up once the trial gets going. This whole thing hurts my brain. Like, they filed in the wrong courthouse. wtf? It's like all the times they filed stuff late. Or WR's 2013 perjury. There never seem to be any sanctions. The whole thing is weird af.
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I wonder why they filed in the wrong courthouse? Is there more to this?
 
8701girl said:
yes but what blues away said is right- thats what robson & safechuck are trying to say
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But the point isn’t to go after Michael Jackson. He just happens to be the means of obtaining the money.
 
Agonum said:
But the point isn’t to go after Michael Jackson. He just happens to be the means of obtaining the money.
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Well in legal sense they are going after michael but since mike aint here to face jail this is the only trial safexchuck and robson can have
 
The document of counterarguments the estate has is quite compelling to read. I'll try to share a segment:

WHY REVIEW IS NECESSARY

A. Whether corporations have a duty to police, and
warn others about, their employees’ off-hours
conduct, unrelated to their employment is a
critical issue with sweeping, statewide
implications.

1. The Opinion imposes a new duty on
corporate directors and employees to
police, and warn about, an employee’s
behavior in his own home—even if they
would be fired or face defamation liability
for doing so.

2. Given the newly-created duty’s broad
ramifications, this Court should consider
whether it in fact exists.

3. Even if there is a duty, the Opinion
leaves many unanswered questions that
will have corporations and their agents
struggling to understand its contours.

4. The Opinion’s and Concurrence’s duty
analysis eviscerates the line between
intentional misconduct and negligence; in
so doing, it effectively creates respondeat
superior liability in situations where this
Court has categorically rejected it.

B. Whether a plaintiff can circumvent the Probate Code and Code of Civil Procedure deadlines for suing a decedent’s estate by suing the decedent’s loan-out company is an important issue with statewide implications.

1. Plaintiffs sued the Corporations as an
end-run around the statutory deadlines
for bringing a claim against a decedent’s
estate (a deadline plaintiffs missed here).

2. Allowing suits against loan-out
corporations for the principal’s personal
misconduct after the deadline to sue the
estate circumvents the Legislature’s
probate deadlines.

3. The Concurrence’s “same ego” theory
allows a plaintiff to sue a loan-out
company for its principal’s actions despite
missing the statutory deadline to sue the
principal’s estate.
 
Agonum said:
I’m sorry, why would anyone ask for his autograph? Look at all that he has accomplished in his lifetime. It’s not very impressive, is it?
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I mean it as a figure of speech , But i will take it to the support thread. I'm glad one is up now. :))
 
Omg. Wade let it GO dude stop lying!!! Ugh. The first commenter is right. Also I came here to start a new thread about this but I don’t know how to start one. There is currently a YouTube account called Roxanne Roxanne and she’s posting so much hate about Michael being a pedophile and everyone is agreeing with her. I got called a Jacko rubberneck. There’s even a channel called Childmo Lester with Michael’s mug shot as a profile photo. I’m so sick of this shit
 
Can't they have a separate trial and jury for Robson / safechuck that would be interesting
 
It seems to me that they are afraid of the judges even though they are going to be different ones
 
Victorious said:
Can't they have a trial without asking for money? Or just a symbolic dollar? Or only expenses? (serious question)
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I'm no expert, but I don't think it works that way. Lawsuits have always been monetary as far as I know.
 
GigiJackson said:
Omg. Wade let it GO dude stop lying!!! Ugh. The first commenter is right. Also I came here to start a new thread about this but I don’t know how to start one. There is currently a YouTube account called Roxanne Roxanne and she’s posting so much hate about Michael being a pedophile and everyone is agreeing with her. I got called a Jacko rubberneck. There’s even a channel called Childmo Lester with Michael’s mug shot as a profile photo. I’m so sick of this shit
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fans are fueling that womans channel by posting her videos everywhere on twitter. She would be a nobody if people stopped giving her free publicity and attention.
 
kelley said:
fans are fueling that womans channel by posting her videos everywhere on twitter. She would be a nobody if people stopped giving her free publicity and attention.
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I actually (albeit reluctantly) looked up her channel. Less than 4k subscribers, so she definitely does not have a major following and it would be best to ignore her.
 
Victorious said:
Can't they have a trial without asking for money? Or just a symbolic dollar? Or only expenses? (serious question)
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TAW1979 said:
I'm no expert, but I don't think it works that way. Lawsuits have always been monetary as far as I know.
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I think you can, in a civil case, be asking for a nominal amount as compensation. Gwyneth Paltrow did in some court case she was involved in. I can't remember the details but I'm fairly sure she asked for one dollar. It was a point of principle. Taylor Swift did something similar. Again, I can't remember the details bc I don't follow that type of thing but, iirc, she was suing a radio station. She won the case but only received one dollar in compensation (that is what she had asked for).

Then you've got the French MJ fans who tried to sue WR and JS for a symbolic one euro. It was to do with LN, obviously. The case was dismissed, iirc, bc the judge said the case would have to be brought by someone who was related to Michael.

Sadly, I think we all know that none of this is going to happen here.
 
Oldtimer said:
Can't they have a separate trial and jury for Robson / safechuck that would be interesting
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There is an interview with an American lawyer, Christopher Melcher, discussing aspects of the WR case.

At approx 9m 25s, Melcher talks briefly about the possibility of WR and JS combining their trials into one. Atm, they are before the court as two separate cases.

The video was originally posted by @Robbsaber01 way back in June.
Robbsaber01 said:
Here is a good breakdown on this case explained by a lawyer.
www.youtube.com

SHAKEDOWN! Michael Jackson Going To TRIAL Vs LIAR Wade Robson Over FALSE Allegations! Lawyer Reacts

SHAKEDOWN! Michael Jackson Going To TRIAL Vs LIAR Wade Robson Over FALSE Allegations!? Lawyer ReactsS U P P O R T T H I S C H A N N E L:Subscribe, Donat...
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Agonum said:
Money (the song) turns out to be his most autobiographical song.
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Are you infected with the same disease of lust, gluttony and greed? Then watch the ones with the biggest smiles, the idle jabbers - cuz they're the backstabbers!

Can't help but think of Wade's smirking in LN, he's the epitome of this song.
 
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