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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

MegaMix12” said:
Absolutely. We’ll hear Thriller obviously. Maybe a clip of the short film or live performance, MJ in the recording studio or something. To re-shoot the short film would be massively impractical and reductive I would imagine.
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Yeh it most likely a footage of audio recording of thriller not the video
 
i like how they cast jafar but i wish officialfabiojackson could be mj dangerous and forward bc hes perfect for the role! plz dont take any creative liberties either i just want the facts and the whole truth and nothing but the truth plz let his music tell the story plz plz plz honor him


I PETITION TO CAST OFFICIALFABIOJACKSON!!!

OIP.KGHLrJUPPG1_lcvE-GMJ-wAAAA
 
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Casting someone else as 1990's / 2000's Michael isn't going to happen, imo. The casting is already finished. It would have been complete before they even started to film any scenes. The only reason we're getting delayed announcements about who is playing which character is so the production team can maintain interest in the project (fans, media), especially given that we are almost a year away from its cinema release.

Even if they decided to have a different person playing mature Michael that person has already been cast, they just haven't been announced. But I don't think that will happen. I'd be really surprised if they split the role between two people. I just can't see that happening. It's Jaafar all the way
 
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zinniabooklover said:
Yeah, you are, lol.

And I love it! :)


So now I feel vindicated! But I'm not going to make a thing of it. :ROFLMAO:

Seriously, though, I've had thoughts about a few of the garments we've seen, the jacket most of all. I haven't seen the musical so I can't compare. I'm not going to post my thoughts on the jacket (nitpicking!) but I'd love to know more about this side of things. Maybe when the film is out, that's when people will do interviews. I tried to find interviews with John Logan but they are all old ones. Really good stuff but nothing about the biopic. Which makes sense, I understand that, but I need interviews!

I'm not slagging off Marci Rodgers, btw, I'm not saying she's doing a bad job with the costumes. I don't wanna judge her work on the few, random photos we've seen so far. That wouldn't be fair.

All I'm saying is ... I hear you!
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Lol! But nah, truly I'm not. But after just remembering what the jacket looked like in the Musical, I was like hmmm 🤔. And whew, you know way more than me about the Biopic ins and outs because besides the list of actors we know so far, I don't know much else. After some fans had reservations about the musical which was understandable (the show is amazing btw, seen it three times) I stopped getting too emotionally invested. I just pray and hope for the best. I ain't here entirely for MJs estate but based on the Musical and Michael's son, Prince being involved, Imma just hope the biopic does what it needs to do, and I belive it will! However, my sideeye will probably still make a few observations--I just won't be taking it to the floor with some stuff. Thanks for hearing me! Lol. And I truly understand how you want to know about the side of things...I'll do that after the biopic is released. 😂
 
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mariah said:
i like how they cast jafar but i wish officialfabiojackson could be mj dangerous and forward bc hes perfect for the role! plz dont take any creative liberties either i just want the facts and the whole truth and nothing but the truth plz let his music tell the story plz plz plz honor him


I PETITION TO CAST OFFICIALFABIOJACKSON!!!

OIP.KGHLrJUPPG1_lcvE-GMJ-wAAAA
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Absolutely not LOL
 
mariah said:
i like how they cast jafar but i wish officialfabiojackson could be mj dangerous and forward bc hes perfect for the role! plz dont take any creative liberties either i just want the facts and the whole truth and nothing but the truth plz let his music tell the story plz plz plz
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dam2040 said:
Absolutely not LOL
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I feel like it's not a perfect resemblance but like its pretty realistic....
 
mariah said:
i like how they cast jafar but i wish officialfabiojackson could be mj dangerous and forward bc hes perfect for the role! plz dont take any creative liberties either i just want the facts and the whole truth and nothing but the truth plz let his music tell the story plz plz plz honor him


I PETITION TO CAST OFFICIALFABIOJACKSON!!!

OIP.KGHLrJUPPG1_lcvE-GMJ-wAAAA
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
zinniabooklover said:
Casting someone else as 1990's / 2000's Michael isn't going to happen, imo. The casting is already finished. It would have been complete before they even started to film any scenes. The only reason we're getting delayed announcements about who is playing which character is so the production team can maintain interest in the project (fans, media), especially given that we are almost a year away from its cinema release.

Even if they decided to have a different person playing mature Michael that person has already been cast, they just haven't been announced. But I don't think that will happen. I'd be really surprised if they split the role between two people. I just can't see that happening. It's Jaafar all the way
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they literally should tho to make it more accurate i like jaafar being casted i'm glad it's not black face i wish it was Michael starring in his biopic idk if i'll watch it
 
mariah said:
they literally should tho to make it more accurate i like jaafar being casted i'm glad it's not black face i wish it was Michael starring in his biopic idk if i'll watch it
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It absolutely is a valid question how are they planning to make Jafaar look Dangerous-like or even 2000-like??
 
Billie Jean 78 said:
It absolutely is a valid question how are they planning to make Jafaar look Dangerous-like or even 2000-like??
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I don't have a problem with this specific question. I think it came up already, earlier in the thread. So far we haven't got the faintest idea how they are going to tackle it, assuming they go all the way which they have implied they will.

Make-up? CGI?

I haven't seen the musical but the photos from the end of the show I find very jarring bc of the darker skin tone. I understand that it's more difficult for a theatre production to tackle this but the film will need to grapple with it. They will already have made their decision on this, it's just that we don't know what the plan is. Jaafar's skin tone in that MITM photo that was released, it was too dark.

I'm taking it for granted they will include the vitiligo in the story line bc how else can they expect the audience to understand? Younger people or the general public who don't know much about Michael do need to have this properly explained to them. Not everyone who goes to see the film will be someone who lived through the 80's and 90's when this was all happening in real time.

It's a challenge, that's for sure.
 
mariah said:
they literally should tho to make it more accurate i like jaafar being casted i'm glad it's not black face i wish it was Michael starring in his biopic idk if i'll watch it
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Same. I'll decide what to do when it comes out. Right now I'm madly keen to see who they cast as LMP. I'm intrigued as to how they are going to create a coherent story out of Michael's drama filled life. Apart from that, I think it's fair to say my feelings about this thing are mixed, lol.
 
It seems that every message board is wall to wall complaining and nit picking about something we haven't even seen so much as a trailer for. Relax and wait and see. All earl indications for this are much more positive than they could have been considering all that's gone on.

After seeing Back To Black, everyone should be much more concerned about how MJ is portrayed, and not about his jackets (if you are going to be concerned about anything). I came out of Back To Black feeling sorry for Amy that it was even made. Everyone around her came out of that film looking better than they did in real life, and Amy came out looking worse (which says a lot considering how she ended up).

There are so many snakes and ladders in MJs life that this needs to be presented in a way that compliments the man and the art, something that we cannot get from still images.
 
bro accuracy is a requirement for it or am not watching it dont defame him plzzz
 
zinniabooklover said:
I don't have a problem with this specific question. I think it came up already, earlier in the thread. So far we haven't got the faintest idea how they are going to tackle it, assuming they go all the way which they have implied they will.

Make-up? CGI?

I haven't seen the musical but the photos from the end of the show I find very jarring bc of the darker skin tone. I understand that it's more difficult for a theatre production to tackle this but the film will need to grapple with it. They will already have made their decision on this, it's just that we don't know what the plan is. Jaafar's skin tone in that MITM photo that was released, it was too dark.

I'm taking it for granted they will include the vitiligo in the story line bc how else can they expect the audience to understand? Younger people or the general public who don't know much about Michael do need to have this properly explained to them. Not everyone who goes to see the film will be someone who lived through the 80's and 90's when this was all happening in real time.

It's a challenge, that's for sure.
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Make-up? Might look tacky...

CGI? I don't know... How did old Harisson Ford turn out as young Indiana Jones?
MITM was probably just a rehearsal and they do not need full mask or CGI when rehearsing.
 
innuendo141 said:
It seems that every message board is wall to wall complaining and nit picking about something we haven't even seen so much as a trailer for.
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Interesting. I haven't seen wall-to-wall complaining anywhere. Some people are unhappy with a few things they've seen in the photos released so far. Usually what happens then is loads of people rush in and tell them to stop complaining - which they haven't necessarily been doing, merely expressing some doubts.

innuendo141 said:
Relax and wait and see. All earl indications for this are much more positive than they could have been considering all that's gone on.
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Agreed. It looks decent, so far.

innuendo141 said:
After seeing Back To Black, everyone should be much more concerned about how MJ is portrayed, and not about his jackets (if you are going to be concerned about anything).
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It's entirely possible to be concerned about both. Michael's style was an important part of him, imo. It might not seem so important to some people. Fine. I'm sure many people wish to see the film address the allegations so that people who don't know anything beyond '1994 settlement' get a clearer idea of what he was up against. I don't think anyone is saying a jacket is more important than that. But it's not an 'either/or' situation. Not for me, anyway.

Besides, we're not a hive mind. We can and do have different opinions. No biggie!

innuendo141 said:
I came out of Back To Black feeling sorry for Amy that it was even made. Everyone around her came out of that film looking better than they did in real life, and Amy came out looking worse (which says a lot considering how she ended up).
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It's certainly had mixed reviews, that's for sure.

innuendo141 said:
There are so many snakes and ladders in MJs life that this needs to be presented in a way that compliments the man and the art, something that we cannot get from still images.
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I don't think anyone would disagree with this. But what I can get from a photo is that the styling, so far, is disappointing to me. Doesn't mean I think the final product will be crap.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Interesting. I haven't seen wall-to-wall complaining anywhere. Some people are unhappy with a few things they've seen in the photos released so far. Usually what happens then is loads of people rush in and tell them to stop complaining - which they haven't necessarily been doing, merely expressing some doubts.


Agreed. It looks decent, so far.


It's entirely possible to be concerned about both. Michael's style was an important part of him, imo. It might not seem so important to some people. Fine. I'm sure many people wish to see the film address the allegations so that people who don't know anything beyond '1994 settlement' get a clearer idea of what he was up against. I don't think anyone is saying a jacket is more important than that. But it's not an 'either/or' situation. Not for me, anyway.

Besides, we're not a hive mind. We can and do have different opinions. No biggie!


It's certainly had mixed reviews, that's for sure.


I don't think anyone would disagree with this. But what I can get from a photo is that the styling, so far, is disappointing to me. Doesn't mean I think the final product will be crap.
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One thing I will say about myself... is that I think its mental that I think they could add his forehead curls in post production with CGI.

We really haven't a clue how spruced up everything will look in post production. They're running with a ridiculous budget so my point is we aren't supposed to see the majority of what we've seen, and will look better/pop more on the big screen.
 
Billie Jean 78 said:
Make-up? Might look tacky...
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Yeah, I really have no clue how they will tackle this. I was just thinking out loud.

Billie Jean 78 said:
CGI? I don't know... How did old Harisson Ford turn out as young Indiana Jones?
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Dunno. Didn't watch. I've only seen one Indiana film, the one with Sean Connery. Everything after that I ignored. Other people have suggested CGI as a possible solution and I figured they must know something I don't. Film is not my jam so I hardly ever watch contemporary films.

Billie Jean 78 said:
MITM was probably just a rehearsal and they do not need full mask or CGI when rehearsing.
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Fair point.
 
innuendo141 said:
One thing I will say about myself... is that I think its mental that I think they could add his forehead curls in post production with CGI.
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I can't even think about this stuff. 🤨

innuendo141 said:
We really haven't a clue how spruced up everything will look in post production. They're running with a ridiculous budget
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Not wanting to keep banging this particular drum but it's the size of the budget that made me disappointed with the styling we've seen so far. They have the money to make it look much better, imo. That said, I'm not sitting in judgement. That would be ridiculous. It's early days yet.

As you said, we just have to be patient.

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so my point is we aren't supposed to see the majority of what we've seen, and will look better/pop more on the big screen.
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I agree with all of this. I hope it does look much better once it's seen for real. Not sure if I'll be watching the film but I do want to see if I can watch the trailer when it comes out. That'll tell us a lot. And I still think it's interesting that the CinemaCon preview got so many positive reactions.
 
yall needa check out the roleplay forum too this one is getting heated a bit lol
 
innuendo141 said:
Michael Jackson was unique looking. There was always going to have to be an element of:

Suspended belief
Heavy makeup
Possible CGI.

They have a much bigger budget than MITM so I'm not worried about them making it look silly or laughable like Flex Washington.
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Nice post. I like your three points. Film by its very nature requires a suspension in belief. The viewer is required to buy-in and take part in a certain sense.
 
zinniabooklover said:
I can't even think about this stuff. 🤨


Not wanting to keep banging this particular drum but it's the size of the budget that made me disappointed with the styling we've seen so far. They have the money to make it look much better, imo. That said, I'm not sitting in judgement. That would be ridiculous. It's early days yet.

As you said, we just have to be patient.


I agree with all of this. I hope it does look much better once it's seen for real. Not sure if I'll be watching the film but I do want to see if I can watch the trailer when it comes out. That'll tell us a lot. And I still think it's interesting that the CinemaCon preview got so many positive reactions.
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I would be somewhat surprised and disappointed if you don’t watch it. You’ve engaged here with much interest and added a lot to the thread. You are one of the most active fans on the subject which shows you are intrigued to a large extent.

The film is going to open a whole lot of different discussions and you are surely going to want to be in that loop.

Perhaps rather than say “Not sure if I’ll be watching the film” a better perspective is “I’m somewhat conflicted about certain elements of the film at this point in time but would like to think I’ll go and see it”

I understand (to an extent) fans issues with costume, hair etc, but they will be secondary to the actual performance(s). Ultimately a large part of your opinion on the film will be on the screenplay (written script) and the cast, after you’ve seen it. Only then will you have a fully formed opinion, and ultimately that is what you’ll want.
 
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