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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    ^ Imagine if his car did not break down that day, or maybe even broke down 20 miles further in the drive... I think about that too..
    Yeah ridiculous how such a thing pretty much destroyed his life. I dont believe in fate but sometimes with all the things that happened to mj because of things like that and say filming say say say at what would become nevvy it makes u wonder.

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    If I could go back in time to ask Michael something it would be if he could use his voice to sing on the Simpsons episode, and release 'Lisa, It's Your Birthday' as a b-side to 'Do The Bartman'.

    I'd be present at Hayvenhurst for the unauthorised interview in '83, where I could ask him all about 'Startin' Somethin' - my favourite song Oh, and 'The Man'! Just to witness his joy would be magical! We could dance and play tag!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael's Essence View Post
    If I could go back in time to ask Michael something it would be if he could use his voice to sing on the Simpsons episode, and release 'Lisa, It's Your Birthday' as a b-side to 'Do The Bartman'.

    I'd be present at Hayvenhurst for the unauthorised interview in '83, where I could ask him all about 'Startin' Somethin' - my favourite song Oh, and 'The Man'! Just to witness his joy would be magical! We could dance and play tag!
    Hmm, fun concepts, but I think you misunderstood the question that is relevant to this thread which is ....

    "So, I ask the people here. If you could go back in time, knowing what you know, and could only give Michael one piece of information that might have changed his ultimate outcome, what point of his life would you go back to and what one thing would you say? "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tess66 View Post
    ^^
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    I haven't been able to stop thinking about the scenarios, it's a fine line, trying to "rewrite" history. You change one thing, you change many. However, after reading more, I think my answer is....

    I would go back to just before the Pepsi commercial that burned him. I would tell him not to do it or change how it was being done so he didn't get hurt. I believe that injury was the catalyst for pain medications that he came to need often in his life, and with them, the slew of doctors that just put Band-Aids over bullet holes. Perhaps if that injury never happened, he wouldn't have been introduced to pain meds at all. I would tell him to never use pain meds for sleep especially and if he needed help sleeping, to see a specialist in the field and to never allow any doctor to give him medications that would tender him unconscious (unless he was actually having surgery).

    Yes, the ugliness with the Chandlers, Bashier, Sony, Arvisos, etc., may still have occurred, but in the end he survived those times. What he didn't survive were the "doctors" (term used loosely). Not just Murray either, any doctor who took advantage of him and his pain.

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    Yeah, Bold and Truthful answer here too! You have to go back to the 'root' of all the misery to change one's life for the better.
    The right term for "doctor" is QUACK I've met many too and only Two 'real' Doctors have 'saved' my life so far.

    Sometimes, when we love someone unconditionally we don't want them to suffer but how harsh it is really... It's a 'lesson' that life brings as IF Michael wasn't so 'abused' by quacks, I wouldn't have 'realized' that quacks are just out to 'destroy' yours too.

    Life is always a flipped coin of 'what if' and the only thing we are left to do is 'honor' Michael in the BEST way we possibly can.


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    I would go back and warn him for the pepsi commercial.
    I wonder how his life had been without a dependency of painmedication, if he had been healthier,or made other decisions.
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    I saw Michael in London in March 2009.

    I was one out of maybe 15 fans that were outside his hotel when he left for the airport and managed to give him a letter I had written to him. Though I am happy with what I wrote, knowing what we know now I would change the content of my letter and warn him, maybe even beg him to not go back to the US.

    When talking about our final moments with Michael to my friend who was there with me, we have repeatedly said "we let him go". We didnt know it was the last time we would see him but we feel so guilty and sad about this even though we know theres nothing we could have done.

    I am here, 'cause you were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daryll748 View Post
    Yeah, Bold and Truthful answer here too! You have to go back to the 'root' of all the misery to change one's life for the better.
    The right term for "doctor" is QUACK I've met many too and only Two 'real' Doctors have 'saved' my life so far.

    Sometimes, when we love someone unconditionally we don't want them to suffer but how harsh it is really... It's a 'lesson' that life brings as IF Michael wasn't so 'abused' by quacks, I wouldn't have 'realized' that quacks are just out to 'destroy' yours too.

    Life is always a flipped coin of 'what if' and the only thing we are left to do is 'honor' Michael in the BEST way we possibly can.
    You always put things in the right perspective, thank you!

    Quacks, yes, absolutely!! I too was a victim of doctors who didn't search for a cause, just kept brushing off my complaints as a woman who was getting older and going through the "change". They kept putting Band-Aids over bullet holes as well. I suffered for 2 years before ending up in a hospital where a real doctor took the time, did the tests and found out what was causing the issues. It took a long time to feel better, and some of the damage was permanent, but at least I had found a legitimate cause beyond "getting older"!

    I agree about honoring Michael, that's all we can do now. He was just too damn good for this world. "Only the good for young".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    I saw Michael in London in March 2009.

    I was one out of maybe 15 fans that were outside his hotel when he left for the airport and managed to give him a letter I had written to him. Though I am happy with what I wrote, knowing what we know now I would change the content of my letter and warn him, maybe even beg him to not go back to the US.

    When talking about our final moments with Michael to my friend who was there with me, we have repeatedly said "we let him go". We didnt know it was the last time we would see him but we feel so guilty and sad about this even though we know theres nothing we could have done.
    Wow!!

    No, there was nothing you could have done of course. I've read about other fans who saw him during those TII times, and they have similar stories to yours. Even some who have stated that something didn't seem "right", Michael not looking well, etc. They all say what you did, wishing they could have warned him, but not knowing at the time what was really going on. Feeling guilty over it, but how could anyone on the "outside" have known?

    Sigh, at least you got to see him, that must have been amazing, especially being able to give him something from your heart!

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    Who knows what direction MJ's life would have taken if we changed his future. We could go back, and warn him about The Chandlers, and his life would take on a whole new direction. For example Prince, Paris and Blanket may have never been born, or MJ could have had kids that were completely different.

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    -"Hey, that person who you think is nice? Yeah, stay the hell away from them" (Robson, Chandler, Safechuck, Shaffell, Schmuley, Arizvos)

    -"No, I think this take was fine. No more" (avoid the Pepsi accident)

    -"You're great looking just as you are" I think this would've made a world of difference


    I think his hanging out with families and kids, constantly having bad business and personal influencers in his life, and not taking time to love himself more caused him a lot of grief. After Thriller, him traveling and just having fun as a 26 year old guy and going back into the studio in 1986 would've been a huge difference

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    Back to March 1984 and tell Michael, now he has recovered from his hair burns, never to use Pain killers again, unless they are needed after surgery.

    I would also say "Cool it with the nose jobs, your nose looks great now, you look great now".

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    If I went back in time, I would have warned him of Lisa Marie, I think all his troubles came from being unhappy in personal life, but if it didn't help and there was still this situation that brought to death then I would bring proof that I am a time traveller, would hide in the bedroom and would try to talk to Dr. Murrey not to do what he did, but if he was just following somebody's order to do it I would need to have a weapon to stop him. Anyway it would be a mission not for 1 person but for a group of time travellers as nobody knows if only Dr. Murrey was behind it or an organised group of people like mafia or FBI, and I would take a doctor with reanimation equipment as well and try to transport MJ to the present times where he could be safe from whoever was after him.

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    ^ With Lisa warn him specifically that they would not last? or that they would argue etc? I personally am happy that he had a real relationship, like they say.. "it's better to have loved than not to have loved at all".. The pain that came with it, of course I'd like to save him from but I highly doubt he ever regretted her. more so unhappy that it did not last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    ^ With Lisa warn him specifically that they would not last? or that they would argue etc? I personally am happy that he had a real relationship, like they say.. "it's better to have loved than not to have loved at all".. The pain that came with it, of course I'd like to save him from but I highly doubt he ever regretted her. more so unhappy that it did not last.
    I agree.
    Its a shame their marriage didn't last. I believe he truly loved her and that their breakup was caused by external sources more so than Michael and Lisa.

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    There are so many separate events I would like to go to to give him advice. Stop the Pepsi fire from happening, stop the surgery (he was so beautiful even before surgery) and make sure his car didn't break down that day.

    I have just finished yet another read of my original 1988 copy of Moonwalk. It is so sad how many times in there he states that he feels tragic for the stars that succumbed to fame and paid the ultimate price, with their life. He was so adamant in that book that it wouldn't happen to him. He also talks about how in control of his life he is at that time and how he knows every inch of his personal business. You wonder where and how it all went so wrong for him. I would like to pinpoint that moment and fix it. In 1988 he had so much going for him. Yeah the crappy rumours had started in the press of course - but not the ultimate, disgusting lies that would destroy his soul.

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