Latest on MJJC

Prelim Hearing-4/1/11 Discussion Thread-All discussion here

  • Thread starter elusive moonwalker
  • Start date
TheChosenOne said:
This is something that MJJC is definitely interested in doing. However, I have not been able to find out where or how we can do that.

If you have any information on this, please PM me. Thank you.
Click to expand...

i presume you contact the courthouse or the court reporter as they own the transcripts. this was an issue in 03-05. u couldnt just post the transcripts on the board as it was a case of each individual person had to payy for them so if mjjc buys them they will need to read them and then post the most importants bits. unless things have changed since 05
 
Thanks for this, EW. We will check this out.

Bless you for all that you do on this board!
 
i dont know who the source is for the below info ie i dont know if its legit cause its important news anyone know the source


UPDATE APPROX. 1PM EST VIA TRU TV "IN SESSION" who has reporters and legal experts in the courtroom:

Defense waived right to opening statement.

Info from Prosecutor's Opening Statement:

prosecution will call 20-30 witnesses and poke holes in the lies regarding Murray's timeline

Prosecution says their case will take 7-8 days in length (if those are not full days, more than that)

Prosecutor Walgreen's timeline is different than timeline Murray gave.

D.A believes LETHAL DOSES OF PROPOFOL WAS DELIVERED SLOWLY OVER SEVERAL HOURS NOT ALL AT ONE TIME AS MURRAY SAYS STARTING SOMETIME AFTER 7:30 AM!!

11 min cell phone call at around 11:51 am from Murray where supposedly they hear the commotion and Murray drops the phone and they are unable to reach him again. This person on other end may end up testifying. (Is this the supposed gf or baby mama???)

About 26 min. from that call till paramedics got there to the home.

MJ security detail (Alvarez) was ordered by Murray to put away evidence in bags before 911 was called.

Murray at this point was giving CPR with ONE HAND on the BED.

EMT peeps will say in court that when they arrived MJ was DEAD....FLATLINED, PUPILS DIALATED, COOL TO THE TOUCH!!



 
X_AGNES_X said:
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray

8 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Prosecutor: Jackson Was Already Dead
0104_michael_jackson_08_prelim
Los Angeles County Prosecutor David Walgren began to lay out the case against Dr. Conrad Murray ... saying in his opening statement that Michael Jackson was dead even before paramedics got to MJ's home.

Walgren also told Judge Michael Pastor Murray tried to conceal the fact he had administered Propofol to Jackson.

Walgren said the evidence will show Murray ordered a bodyguard to help him clean up evidence and waited at least 20 minutes before he called 911.

He also pointed out Murray performed CPR incorrectly -- with one hand on his bed, rather than a hard surface.

Murray's attorney, Ed Chernoff, declined to make an opening statement.

The first witness the prosecution will call is "This is It" producer/director Kenny Ortega.
Click to expand...

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
news about who will also testify

Michael Amir, Jackson's chief of staff; Alberto Alvarez, a security staffer; and Faheem Muhammad, chief of security, have been subpoenaed to testify for prosecutors seeking to prove they have enough evidence to try Murray for involuntary manslaughter, said the employees' lawyer, Carl Douglas.

Douglas, who declined to comment for the story, confirmed that he would appear with his clients following their court appearance Tuesday and make some brief comments.

Alvarez was with Jackson and Murray in the pop star's bedroom in the moments before paramedics arrived and could provide independent insight into what transpired, the attorney said. But he would not elaborate on those details at the time.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lan...y-at-hearing-for-michael-jacksons-doctor.html
 
Thanks for all the updates so far everyone.
Eventhough it's quite hard to read and hear what people are saying.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
i dont know who the source is for the below info ie i dont know if its legit cause its important news anyone know the source


UPDATE APPROX. 1PM EST VIA TRU TV "IN SESSION" who has reporters and legal experts in the courtroom:

Defense waived right to opening statement.

Info from Prosecutor's Opening Statement:

prosecution will call 20-30 witnesses and poke holes in the lies regarding Murray's timeline

Prosecution says their case will take 7-8 days in length (if those are not full days, more than that)

Prosecutor Walgreen's timeline is different than timeline Murray gave.

D.A believes LETHAL DOSES OF PROPOFOL WAS DELIVERED SLOWLY OVER SEVERAL HOURS NOT ALL AT ONE TIME AS MURRAY SAYS STARTING SOMETIME AFTER 7:30 AM!!

11 min cell phone call at around 11:51 am from Murray where supposedly they hear the commotion and Murray drops the phone and they are unable to reach him again. This person on other end may end up testifying. (Is this the supposed gf or baby mama???)

About 26 min. from that call till paramedics got there to the home.

MJ security detail (Alvarez) was ordered by Murray to put away evidence in bags before 911 was called.

Murray at this point was giving CPR with ONE HAND on the BED.

EMT peeps will say in court that when they arrived MJ was DEAD....FLATLINED, PUPILS DIALATED, COOL TO THE TOUCH!!
Click to expand...

Major heart tugs just reading this. I feel sorry for Katherine sitting there listening to it. Wonder how graphic it all is going to get.
 
Thanks to all who are providing the updates. Bless! :flowers:

elusive moonwalker said:
i dont know who the source is for the below info ie i dont know if its legit cause its important news anyone know the source


UPDATE APPROX. 1PM EST VIA TRU TV "IN SESSION" who has reporters and legal experts in the courtroom:

Defense waived right to opening statement.

Info from Prosecutor's Opening Statement:

prosecution will call 20-30 witnesses and poke holes in the lies regarding Murray's timeline

Prosecution says their case will take 7-8 days in length (if those are not full days, more than that)

Prosecutor Walgreen's timeline is different than timeline Murray gave.

D.A believes LETHAL DOSES OF PROPOFOL WAS DELIVERED SLOWLY OVER SEVERAL HOURS NOT ALL AT ONE TIME AS MURRAY SAYS STARTING SOMETIME AFTER 7:30 AM!!

11 min cell phone call at around 11:51 am from Murray where supposedly they hear the commotion and Murray drops the phone and they are unable to reach him again. This person on other end may end up testifying. (Is this the supposed gf or baby mama???)

About 26 min. from that call till paramedics got there to the home.

MJ security detail (Alvarez) was ordered by Murray to put away evidence in bags before 911 was called.

Murray at this point was giving CPR with ONE HAND on the BED.

EMT peeps will say in court that when they arrived MJ was DEAD....FLATLINED, PUPILS DIALATED, COOL TO THE TOUCH!!
Click to expand...

Since 7:30am?? Makes sense. I wonder if the urine samples helped them make that determination since propofol was found in various samples.
 
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray

less than a minute ago by TMZ Staff

Kenny Ortega Testifies

0104_kenny_ortega_01_prelimKenny Ortega, MJ's producer/director for "This is It," was the first to testify, stating just days before MJ died, Dr. Murray was upset that Kenny sent MJ home from rehearsal on June 19. According to Ortega ... Murray felt only he should make such decisions.

According to Ortega ... Dr. Murray said during the June 20 meeting at MJ's home that Michael was "physically and emotionally fine," even though Ortega said MJ had the chills and was not well during the failed rehearsal the day before.

The June 20 meeting at MJ's home is important for prosecutors, who claim it shows Murray did not care about MJ's health.

And Ortega said June 23 and 24 were "two wonderful days of rehearsal" and that MJ was happy and healthy. The point -- that Jackson wasn't in distress the day before he died, and it was the Propofol that did him in.

During cross examination, Ortega denied he read Michael "the riot act" during the June 20 meeting.
 
Thanks to all those providing updates. TMZ is blocked in the UK so a lot of us are relying on you guys! Thanks everyone
 
Okay, going back into the tiny tiny room dunno whats next, but Kenny just talked about This Is It in general but then talked about June 19th. Michael came to rehersals, had chills, was out if it and quiet. He said he shouldnt be here and didnt rehearse that night. Kenny didnt know why but was concerned. Defense asked him about Karen Faye and he said he never talked to her ever about Michael's condition. They said he did talk to her and he yelled at her and he says that isn't true, he never talked to her.

This is my iphone so sorry for typos and general bad english... back to the snake pit I go...
 
I know that only the prosecution is talking about, but I think that a conviction is inevitable. Let's hope for an impartial jury.

God help us.

gerryevans said:
Major heart tugs just reading this. I feel sorry for Katherine sitting there listening to it. Wonder how graphic it all is going to get.
Click to expand...

Maybe she can learn something about her son. Never too late.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
i dont know who the source is for the below info ie i dont know if its legit cause its important news anyone know the source


UPDATE APPROX. 1PM EST VIA TRU TV "IN SESSION" who has reporters and legal experts in the courtroom:

Defense waived right to opening statement.

Info from Prosecutor's Opening Statement:

prosecution will call 20-30 witnesses and poke holes in the lies regarding Murray's timeline

Prosecution says their case will take 7-8 days in length (if those are not full days, more than that)

Prosecutor Walgreen's timeline is different than timeline Murray gave.

D.A believes LETHAL DOSES OF PROPOFOL WAS DELIVERED SLOWLY OVER SEVERAL HOURS NOT ALL AT ONE TIME AS MURRAY SAYS STARTING SOMETIME AFTER 7:30 AM!!

11 min cell phone call at around 11:51 am from Murray where supposedly they hear the commotion and Murray drops the phone and they are unable to reach him again. This person on other end may end up testifying. (Is this the supposed gf or baby mama???)

About 26 min. from that call till paramedics got there to the home.

MJ security detail (Alvarez) was ordered by Murray to put away evidence in bags before 911 was called.

Murray at this point was giving CPR with ONE HAND on the BED.

EMT peeps will say in court that when they arrived MJ was DEAD....FLATLINED, PUPILS DIALATED, COOL TO THE TOUCH!!
Click to expand...

Prosecution already trying to circumvent the possible "he killed himself with a sudden enormous self-injection." by the defense.
 
mc8755 said:
Okay, going back into the tiny tiny room dunno whats next, but Kenny just talked about This Is It in general but then talked about June 19th. Michael came to rehersals, had chills, was out if it and quiet. He said he shouldnt be here and didnt rehearse that night. Kenny didnt know why but was concerned. Defense asked him about Karen Faye and he said he never talked to her ever about Michael's condition. They said he did talk to her and he yelled at her and he says that isn't true, he never talked to her.

This is my iphone so sorry for typos and general bad english... back to the snake pit I go...
Click to expand...

Don't worry about the typos or anything...your recap is fantastic...thanks for doing this for us.
 
mc8755 said:
ODefense asked him about Karen Faye and he said he never talked to her ever about Michael's condition. They said he did talk to her and he yelled at her and he says that isn't true, he never talked to her.
Click to expand...

so defense is referring to Karen Faye?
 
X_AGNES_X said:
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray

less than a minute ago by TMZ Staff

Kenny Ortega Testifies

0104_kenny_ortega_01_prelimKenny Ortega, MJ's producer/director for "This is It," was the first to testify, stating just days before MJ died, Dr. Murray was upset that Kenny sent MJ home from rehearsal on June 19. According to Ortega ... Murray felt only he should make such decisions.

According to Ortega ... Dr. Murray said during the June 20 meeting at MJ's home that Michael was "physically and emotionally fine," even though Ortega said MJ had the chills and was not well during the failed rehearsal the day before.

The June 20 meeting at MJ's home is important for prosecutors, who claim it shows Murray did not care about MJ's health.

And Ortega said June 23 and 24 were "two wonderful days of rehearsal" and that MJ was happy and healthy. The point -- that Jackson wasn't in distress the day before he died, and it was the Propofol that did him in.

During cross examination, Ortega denied he read Michael "the riot act" during the June 20 meeting.
Click to expand...


Thanks. So apparently, there was this episode of "chills" that caused concern. I wonder what Kenny's testimony is about the months/weeks prior to this (March-May & early June). Were there any other episodes that gave cause for concern or just this one?
 
but what i understand the timeline was bigger, murray went to badroom around 10 but called 911 about 12? so thats 2 hours?

and kenny is called as witness by prosecuters (thats us?????)
 
I hope he does relay on Karen Faye. Then they can show her all of her old facebook comments before June 25 Michael was amazing comments
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top