MJ Estate Sues Howard Mann and business partner Henry Vaccaro - Settlement reached

Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Howard Mann responds

Mama Jackson's Partner: MJ Estate is a Dictatorship!

Katherine Jackson's business partner who is being sued by the Michael Jackson Estate tells TMZ the Estate is a "fraudulently obtained dictatorship," guarding "a collusive and corrupt status quo."

Howard Mann -- whom the Estate claims in a new lawsuit is violating copyright and trademark laws by cashing in on all things Jackson -- calls the lawsuit "malicious and unfounded."

Mann says, "These lawyers have absolutely NO interest in the preservation of Michael Jackson's legacy and less interest in generating revenues for his beneficiaries."

Mann goes on: "...the Estate will fall as a result of these draconian tactics and it is my hope that Miss Jackson regains control of that which was stolen from her."
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery


Katherine Jackson's business partner illegally made millions of bucks from Michael Jackson's music, photos and drawings -- this according to a lawsuit filed by MJ's Estate and obtained by TMZ.


The MJ Estate has sued Howard Mann -- the guy behind MichaelJacksonSecretVault.com -- claiming Mann has duped fans into believing his website was kosher ... when it was in fact, "rife with illegal uses of Michael Jackson intellectual property."

According to the lawsuit, Mann displayed "arrogant disregard" for the Estate's copyrights on all things MJ ... and wrongfully published clips, artwork and trailers from "This Is It" -- content from the "Thriller: 25th Anniversary Edition" CD and much, much more.

The Estate also accuses Mann of posting an "unreleased" MJ song called "Opis None" ... which in reality, was a remix of the song "Destiny" which The Jacksons released in 1979. The Estate claims Mann had no right to publish the song ... and the confusion he caused damaged the MJ Estate.


The Estate also claims Mann published several sketches that MJ drew himself ... including one titled, "Bubbles Chair" ... as well as a number of copyrighted photographs in Katherine Jackson's coffee table book, "Never Can Say Goodbye."

The Estate believes Mann hauled in more than $1.5 million in sales from the book in its first two days -- money that rightfully belongs to the Jackson Estate.

The Estate wants to recoup all of the revenues Mann raked in from the sale and publication of the Estate's property ... plus punitive damages -- which surely could be in the tens of millions.

Documents here

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0120_jackson.pdf

will update with a summary

Can we please stop supporting TMZ...the documents are hosted on this site


http://home.mjnewsalerts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/0120_jackson.pdf

A Michael Jackson fansite.


We cannot complain about TMZ...and still keep going back on their website. There are several fan sites that have elected volunteers to monitor TMZ so the general fan population doesn't have to run to TMZ.com every time they post an article....be it positive or negative.

http://www.filthytabloidtrash.com/category/tmz-trash/
 
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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Howard Mann responds

Mama Jackson's Partner: MJ Estate is a Dictatorship!

Katherine Jackson's business partner who is being sued by the Michael Jackson Estate tells TMZ the Estate is a "fraudulently obtained dictatorship," guarding "a collusive and corrupt status quo."

Howard Mann -- whom the Estate claims in a new lawsuit is violating copyright and trademark laws by cashing in on all things Jackson -- calls the lawsuit "malicious and unfounded."


Mann says, "These lawyers have absolutely NO interest in the preservation of Michael Jackson's legacy and less interest in generating revenues for his beneficiaries."


Mann goes on: "...the Estate will fall as a result of these draconian tactics and it is my hope that Miss Jackson regains control of that which was stolen from her."
LMAO! Dream on porn guy.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Mann has some nerve.. How did the estate belong to Katherine?
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

The family feel like they should be in control of Michael's estate. He is their family. They don't get that he didn't want that or refuse to see that. That bugs them a lot that somebody else is running the estate and they have no say in business decisions or anything.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

The family feel like they should be in control of Michael's estate. He is their family. They don't get that he didn't want that or refuse to see that. That bugs them a lot that somebody else is running the estate and they have no say in business decisions or anything.

well I can see why he didn't want them to run it. They don't know what they're doing. They are all broke with the exception of Janet, so why would MJ trust them to run his estate? Smart move by MJ..
 
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well I can see why he didn't want them to run it. They don't know what they're doing. They are all broke with the exception of Janet, so why would MJ trust them to run his estate? Smart move by MJ..

Michael was very smart and just how he planned out for his children shows me that he really thought about this. He wanted his family and his business to be separate. That's not a bad thing. His family though feel they have the right to do whatever because Michael was their family but it doesn't work that way.
 
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Michael was very smart and just how he planned out for his children shows me that he really thought about this. He wanted his family and his business to be separate. That's not a bad thing. His family though feel they have the right to do whatever because Michael was their family but it doesn't work that way.

I agree.. and the fact that they weren't all that concerned with MJ while he was living makes it even worse. He's gone so they want to run his estate but when he was alive they failed to help him
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Michael was very smart and just how he planned out for his children shows me that he really thought about this. He wanted his family and his business to be separate. That's not a bad thing. His family though feel they have the right to do whatever because Michael was their family but it doesn't work that way.
yeah of course would they'd feel this way, but would they still be feeling the same way if ithe tables were turned? Michael the broke guy, leaving broke kids behind, would they be willing to share everything with him and his kids? Hell no, they are not even willing to take care of their own offspring, doing everything they can to hide whatever money they have made while selling out a dead man.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I think the family should try to work with the estate and not always be against them most of the time. Instead they do their own deals using Michael's image without consulting the estate. Things are different now.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

yeah of course would they'd feel this way, but would they still be feeling the same way if ithe tables were turned? Michael the broke guy, leaving broke kids behind, would they be willing to share everything with him and his kids? Hell no, they are not even willing to take care of their own offspring, doing everything they can to hide whatever money they have made while selling out a dead man.




I agree
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

yeah of course would they'd feel this way, but would they still be feeling the same way if ithe tables were turned? Michael the broke guy, leaving broke kids behind, would they be willing to share everything with him and his kids? Hell no, they are not even willing to take care of their own offspring, doing everything they can to hide whatever money they have made while selling out a dead man.

It's obvious that the family was way too dependent on Michael for a lot of things. Michael should have said no more but he loved his family and helped them. Some just don't know how to take care of themselves and still rely on Michael even though he isn't here anymore.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I hope the estate goes after each and everyone who's using MJ's name, Jackson or not sue the heck out of those people.
The Estate would be having a similar success graph/life line to 'Joe Cola' and 'Jermaine the Raisin' had it been in the hands of a Jackson, there would be no estate today barely one and half years after MJ's death.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Howard Mann responds

Mann says, "These lawyers have absolutely NO interest in the preservation of Michael Jackson's legacy and less interest in generating revenues for his beneficiaries."

Mann goes on: "...the Estate will fall as a result of these draconian tactics and it is my hope that Miss Jackson regains control of that which was stolen from her."

Omg, what an idiot. So, his theory of preserving MJs legacy is by releasing a "new song" which turned out to be an old song? His theory of preserving MJs legacy is by hooking up with the fake HTW foundation??

According to different articles, the estate made $1 billion dollar.. so thats not generating revenues for the beneficiaries?? The estate gives all the beneficiaries a total $86,000/month.

What was stolen from Mrs Jackson? Gimme a break... I wonder if this idiot gets it that he is the thief now, stealing from PPB.

I wanna smack this guy.. seriously, he pisses me off..
 
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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

hopefully this will stop the children being used aswell

if the estate stops Mann there wouldn't be a need for Katherine and the kids appearance I guess..

Ivy, a legal question please, like Murray did in the wrongful death lawsuit can't Mann raise the argument that Katherine is not listed as a defendant?

to share the financial burden with Katherine? Wouldn't make any difference for the estate, will be bad for Katherine.


Mann has some nerve.. How did the estate belong to Katherine?

remember the fake will that they never contested and the deadline passed. that ship has long sailed.

According to different articles, the estate made $1 billion dollar.. so thats not generating revenues for the beneficiaries?? The estate gives all the beneficiaries a total $86,000/month.

plus rent, house bills, staff bills, paying mortgage etc
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

now that the estate has sued this porn guy, he will be suing katherine after loosing, and she will be crying crime. Its mind boggling to me that after 4 decades these ppl still haven't learned their lesson.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Howard Mann responds

Mama Jackson's Partner: MJ Estate is a Dictatorship!

Katherine Jackson's business partner who is being sued by the Michael Jackson Estate tells TMZ the Estate is a "fraudulently obtained dictatorship," guarding "a collusive and corrupt status quo."

Howard Mann -- whom the Estate claims in a new lawsuit is violating copyright and trademark laws by cashing in on all things Jackson -- calls the lawsuit "malicious and unfounded."

Mann says, "These lawyers have absolutely NO interest in the preservation of Michael Jackson's legacy and less interest in generating revenues for his beneficiaries."

Mann goes on: "...the Estate will fall as a result of these draconian tactics and it is my hope that Miss Jackson regains control of that which was stolen from her."


Yeah, right. The Jacksons can't even get Alejandra out the house, but they should be running MJ's estate.

That Mann has already made so much money off of MJ is sickening.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

to share the financial burden with Katherine? Wouldn't make any difference for the estate, will be bad for Katherine.

thanks Ivy, please be patient with me, beside promoting Mann's products , what was Katherine's part in the agreement? Did the pics come from her? she said that book had pics she owns and she wanted to share with people. that would make a difference?

I know Mann is going to sue Katherine next, just want to be sure whether she also claimed she owned things that were not hers when she entered that agreement with Mann
Thanks ivy
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

Documents here

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0120_jackson.pdf

Summary

- Estate is suing Howard Mann, Sonia Lowe (editor of the book and the website) , Vintage Pop Media (and several of it's sister corporations all owned by and connected to Howard Mann) and unknown does (such as affiliates, employees, agents, partner, representative, aider, abettor, co-conspirator, alter-egos)

- In short Estate didn't give them any permissions and any licences to use Michael's name or likeliness.

- Website is mentioned as the place that sells all the copyright infringed items.

- This is it artwork, trailer etc is used on the website. (vault videos and main site design)

- The book:
--- 5 copyrighted hand drawn sketches of MJ are included in the book.
--- The book has "Special thanks to Estate of Michael Jackson" suggesting that this was approved by the Estate - which the Estate denies and calls it false endorsement
--- Howard Mann made a statement saying that "less than 48 hours they sold 25,000 copies" if truthful it means $1.5M in first 2 days only.

- Lithographic collection event
--- used an unauthorized picture of MJ in their promotions
--- as we heard before some of the profits will go to the fake "Heal the World" - Estate says tries to create association between the Estate and the event and as well as Estate and Heal the world foundation.
--- Estate says despite their cease and desist and request to clearly say that 'MJ Estate wasn't in any way involved with this event', Mann didn't make any changes and continued to promote the event.

- Estate's legal claims
--- This is it copyright was infringed - by the pictures and videos
--- Opis None is a remix of "Destiny" which is released by Sony in 1978. As the song is still present in the website (with unauthorized MJ picture) this is again a copyright infringement. (Sony music authorized Estate to bring copyright claims.)
--- Content from 25th Anniversary DVD and CD of Thriller is presented on the website - another copyright infringement.
--- The book has "Bubbles Chair", "Key III", "Boy", "Happy Gate", "We the people" drawings - again copyright infringement.
--- Vintage Pop Media logo contains "Smooth Criminal Lean" on the left arm of "V". Again infringement. Also misleads public to believe that the items sold are associated/ allowed by MJ / Estate. Estate also wants Vintage Pop Media to remove the "Smooth Criminal Lean" from their corporate logo.
--- The "Special Thanks to the Estate of Michael Jackson" note on the book is deceiving people to believe that the book is affiliated/ authorized by the Estate. Estate makes a false endorsement claim for this.
--- The domain names "jacksonsecretvault.com" , "michaeljacksonsecretvault.com", "mjgives.com" and "mjduets.com" has MJ's name, can deceive people to believe that estate is behind these domain names so Estate is making cyber squatting and cyber piracy claim and want the domains to be transfered to the Estate.
--- Misappropriation of likeliness claim for VPM logo (SC lean), MJ name/image/likeliness use throughout the website, MJ name/image/likeliness use for promotion of the book /products /lithograph collection
--- Unfair competition.

- Furthermore Estate wants the court to come to a decision (make declaration) about who owns what rights in regards to the items in the possession of Mann. (Such as "X have the rights to this and they can do this and that")

- Estate lists in a detailed format that they want the profits, punitive damages awarded by the court, legal costs, and injunction for the further and future activities.
Thanks Ivy!







Howard Mann responds

Mama Jackson's Partner: MJ Estate is a Dictatorship!

Katherine Jackson's business partner who is being sued by the Michael Jackson Estate tells TMZ the Estate is a "fraudulently obtained dictatorship," guarding "a collusive and corrupt status quo."

Howard Mann -- whom the Estate claims in a new lawsuit is violating copyright and trademark laws by cashing in on all things Jackson -- calls the lawsuit "malicious and unfounded."

Mann says, "These lawyers have absolutely NO interest in the preservation of Michael Jackson's legacy and less interest in generating revenues for his beneficiaries."

Mann goes on: "...the Estate will fall as a result of these draconian tactics and it is my hope that Miss Jackson regains control of that which was stolen from her."

:girl_whistle:


Poor thing.... :sigh:



:coffee:
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Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

thanks Ivy, please be patient with me, beside promoting Mann's products , what was Katherine's part in the agreement? Did the pics come from her? she said that book had pics she owns and she wanted to share with people. that would make a difference?

I know Mann is going to sue Katherine next, just want to be sure whether she also claimed she owned things that were not hers when she entered that agreement with Mann
Thanks ivy

All of the items come from a storage unit that Joe failed to pay for and Vaccaro/Mann bought during bankruptcy of Joe, Katherine and some siblings of MJ.

Detailed explanation from TSCM

Everything about the collection has been shrouded in secrecy and confusion. I did exhaustive research and investigation into the subject over the course of several years. In short, Henry Vaccaro owns Vintage Pop (Vintage Associates). He acquired the memorabilia collection and audio tapes years ago--even though the original court order forbade him from taking items belonging to MJ or Janet since they weren't part of the bankruptcy case that Katherine, Joe, and some other siblings were. A misguided ruling years later allowed Vacarro to quickly sweep up everything in there (MJ/Janet items as well) despite the original court order. Howard Mann is a business associate of Vaccaro who has helped with the Web site and marketing etc., they are both doing business under the Vintage Pop name.

They (originally just Henry Vaccaro) had worked on creating JacksonSecretVault and numerous variants of it for many years in order to charge money for online access to photos of these items. In 2004, MJ was successful in shutting down the first incarnation of the site (which was promoted by tabloids, Diane Dimond, etc.) due to the illegalities of the acquired collection which the court agreed with. In 2007, "Vintage Pop" aka Vaccaro made a deal to sell the collection to Richard Altomare of Universal Express, to auction everything off. The parties involved, including Richard Altomare, grossly exaggerated the value of these items (their estimates went as high as $200,000,000) but the auction actually grossed a mere $500,000. Henry V. wanted them to pay him $4 million for the collection but they only paid him $150,000 advance, and as such more litigation ensued and Vintage Pop resumed the alleged rights to the collection. MJ and Janet successfully sued Universal Express/Richard Altomare in 2007 after he circumvented a previously agreed upon settlement and tried to auction off items prohibited by the the agreement. Altomare was ordered to pay their legal fees and turn over the remaining collection he had. In the meanwhile, Vintage Pop and two other companies were also alleging ownership of the collection, but the other companies eventually buckled. Universal Express as a whole crashed and burned soon after the auction mess and is now completely gone--Richard Altomare served time in jail for unrelated fraud after this case concluded, and he never did pay the legal fees for MJ/Janet.

The audio recordings were also part of the Universal Express / Vintage Pop agreement. They had planned on holding multiple auctions, one of which would be for these audio recordings, but this was illegal as they are protected by copyrights. Altomare tried to sell them under the table at one point but was ordered to turn them over to court, although it took a long time for him to do so and he may have only turned over a small number of them to court. Again, they are protected by copyright and cannot be sold. Either way, shortly after all of this mess, Henry Vacarro/Vintage Pop created another site to try and sell the recordings which he still seemed to have access to. He posted terrible remixes of published songs and was seeking millions of dollars for them. However, the tapes were not unique or original as he claimed, but instead were audio tracks for the Jackson Variety Show from the 1970s and perhaps a few other known and released tracks from the Jacksons circa 1970s (e.g., Destiny). At the time, he described them as "unique mechanicals rerecorded for the Jackson Variety Shows which aired in the mid 1970's."

In 2008-2009 (before June 25th) he had another "J5 Secrets" operating where he was charging access for low resolution, watermarked photo scans of Michael and the family that he had acquired from the ill-gotten collection. To deter fans from investing in such a scheme that MJ and courts opposed, I posted higher resolution, unwatermarked versions of all the photos he was charging access for.

Fast forward today, and now Katherine and other family members appear to have been suckered into these schemes by "Vintage Pop" aka Henry Vacarro and Howard Mann. Photos from the same collection that I shared long ago and what Vintage Pop tried to charge for have now been converted into the book that Katherine has been promoting through Howard Mann, which they are all trying to profit from...

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3053171&postcount=383
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

^^^^ Janet knows this guy, she sued him for christ sake.. you would hope she did talk to her mom what an ass Mann is... I wonder what she thinks about all this crap going on since her mom is doing partnership with a guy she sued
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I believe Janet Jackson never sued Howard Mann, she sued Henry Vaccarro along with Mike
 
Ivy, thank you for your help.

what do you make of this judgment???

Michael Jackson sued Vaccaro and his company, Vintage Pop, for copyright infringement, cybersquatting, violation of his privacy rights and other claims in 2004, but the next year after his acquittal on child molestation charges, he decamped to Bahrain, refused to submit to a deposition and stopped paying his lawyers. A federal judge dismissed the case in 2006 "with prejudice" — meaning the singer was barred from refiling the same claims.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/12/entertainment/la-ca-michael-jackson-20101212


Isn't the estate refiling the same charges here???
 
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This is a little OT, but I'm gonna say it anyway:

Hopefully Joe Jackson and the PERFUME guy will get wind of this new development and it will serve as notice that the Estate Of Michael Jackson is not playing, and IF Joe and the PERFUME guy plan on using Michael's likeness in anyway to hawk said perfume, they BETTER think again!

Okay, back on topic:

I would have love to see the look on Mann's face when he was served the papers. LOL!


You read my mind. Finally good news. Next the authors/quasi-journalist who spread lies.

The Estate finally said Beat It!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

^^^^ Janet knows this guy, she sued him for christ sake.. you would hope she did talk to her mom what an ass Mann is... I wonder what she thinks about all this crap going on since her mom is doing partnership with a guy she sued


Janet obviously doesn't care about what's going on with her parents. The fact that Katherine is even in business with Mann is insane. I've always questioned why the remaining Jackson adult children are not watching over their elderly parents. I remember reading one of Randy's tweets about how he is trying to unify his family. I guess it's not working.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery


Katherine Jackson's business partner illegally made millions of bucks from Michael Jackson's music, photos and drawings -- this according to a lawsuit filed by MJ's Estate and obtained by TMZ.


The MJ Estate has sued Howard Mann -- the guy behind MichaelJacksonSecretVault.com -- claiming Mann has duped fans into believing his website was kosher ... when it was in fact, "rife with illegal uses of Michael Jackson intellectual property."

According to the lawsuit, Mann displayed "arrogant disregard" for the Estate's copyrights on all things MJ ... and wrongfully published clips, artwork and trailers from "This Is It" -- content from the "Thriller: 25th Anniversary Edition" CD and much, much more.

The Estate also accuses Mann of posting an "unreleased" MJ song called "Opis None" ... which in reality, was a remix of the song "Destiny" which The Jacksons released in 1979. The Estate claims Mann had no right to publish the song ... and the confusion he caused damaged the MJ Estate.


The Estate also claims Mann published several sketches that MJ drew himself ... including one titled, "Bubbles Chair" ... as well as a number of copyrighted photographs in Katherine Jackson's coffee table book, "Never Can Say Goodbye."

The Estate believes Mann hauled in more than $1.5 million in sales from the book in its first two days -- money that rightfully belongs to the Jackson Estate.

The Estate wants to recoup all of the revenues Mann raked in from the sale and publication of the Estate's property ... plus punitive damages -- which surely could be in the tens of millions.

Documents here

http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0120_jackson.pdf

will update with a summary

Yeah. It feels so good to read this.^^
Guys we have to send the estate positive letter.
 
Re: MJ Estate Sues Katherine Jackson's Business Partner Howard Mann

I hope it won't influence the children and their normal life...
All matters root in commercial interests... = = :(
 
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Ivy, thank you for your help.

what do you make of this judgment???


http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/12/entertainment/la-ca-michael-jackson-20101212


Isn't the estate refiling the same charges here???

I think this will be Mann's defense (if true) probably however that information is conflicting with TSCM's information.

As we haven't seen that decision mentioned it's harder to have an opinion. (is it only stopping a lawsuit for that website or everything that comes from the parent company? for example).

Perhaps TSCM can help with that.
 
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^^^^ Janet knows this guy, she sued him for christ sake.. you would hope she did talk to her mom what an ass Mann is... i mean, her mom is doing partnership with a guy she sued? I wonder what she thinks about all this crap going on

well, during the trial Henry Vaccaro claimed he found a dildo, regardless of being the asshole he's ,he had never claimed it belonged to MJ, it's obviously among Janet or Latoya's collection. Maybe that's why she sued back then . from my understanding , Katherine's sources are telling the gossip sites she was "blackmailed and wanted to protect MJ from a particular item in that collection". Among MJ's items there was nothing 'wrong' to protect him from , we saw everything even Dian Dimond tried her best to find anything to point out, beside MJ's underwear there was nothing of use to Sneddon, I'm sure if that item belonged to MJ, Zonan and Sneddon would have asked to enter it as evidence. maybe Katherine was told that specific item belonged to MJ and unfortunately it's very apparent she believes everything people say about MJ nowadays . Maybe Janet no longer has a problem if people believe everything found back then belonged to MJ ,not her.

Joe and Mann are very capable of resorting to such low tactics to encourage Katherine to OK the deal, plus the $$$$ of course
 
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