Michael and Lisa Marie Discussion (Positive Thread)

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Thanks for the update I'm on Team Lisa when it comes to the money side of things.......its her inheritance, and I don't buy his claims that he can't get a job. I think that is a cop out......why doesn't he sell some of this custom guitars and those hats? I found some more court pics, she is wearing a nice outfit. Also I read in People that the next court dates are for March 1 for the custody hearing and April 10 for the spousal support request.

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I agree im not sure if its the camera lens playing up or no but she looks unwell ...as if she hasnt been eating ... i just she doesnt let the stress of this get to her otherwise things will get bad very bad

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I agree she looks unwell and this situation is obviously painful for her.. The last time she was seen in public was over a year ago in the candlelight vigil for Elvis in August 2015 and to me she looked a bit off back then but now it's worse. There was another picture she posted from Ben's birthday in 2015 but it wasn't very clear. She had a rough year (or more than a year) but I hope she's starting to take care of herself now. At least she's giving a little smile to the camera. Also yes girl8701 the quality is not good because the pictures were taken indoors with a phone camera but still she looks skinny and we also know she was in treatment for three months.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Well I won't be surprised if they start blaming MJ (or his ghost) for Lisa's nasty divorce battle etc......after all they blamed him for her break-up with Nic.....well for everything since 1994 :hysterical:

I read a story where a woman legit said MJ's ghost came out of the TV and got her pregnant.
I think she wanted child support and everything.
It was funny AF.:rofl:

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Here is a article about Lockwood being reunited with the kids....under the watchful eye of a social worker. Next week is about the custody hearing. I wonder if Lockwood will leak dirt on Lisa before March 1, after all he didn't get what he asked for?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.d...ichael-Lockwood-kisses-daughters-goodbye.html

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

He looks like a clown. :doh:

TMZ shared pictures of Lisa's family the other day and on of them was Lisa and her children sitting backstage in HIStory Tour in London 1997

 

[Annita]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I think he always looked like a clown, also on the fotos with Lisa over the years. But she seems be attracted from him.

Next week is about the custody hearing. I wonder if Lockwood will leak dirt on Lisa before March 1, after all he didn't get what he asked for?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.d... are criminal charges about Lookwood or not?

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

He looks like a clown. :doh:

TMZ shared pictures of Lisa's family the other day and on of them was Lisa and her children sitting backstage in HIStory Tour in London 1997

Was the pic on the HIStory Tour in 1997, the year she had that major break-down ending up in hospital and the media blamed MJ for it?

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

This footage is so sad....he took care of "everything".....and now we are learning that he helped himself to all of her $$$$$$$ no wonder according to court docs "Lockwood has destroyed the mental or emotional calm of Presley"

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

This footage is so sad....he took care of "everything".....and now we are learning that he helped himself to all of her $$$$$$$ no wonder according to court docs "Lockwood has destroyed the mental or emotional calm of Presley"

He was probably up in her money like the Grinch in Whoville.

I personally think it's crazy that he had access in the first place.
She was just to trusting of someone she shouldn't have trusted at all I suppose.

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

MJ, unfortunatelly, committed the same mistakes with letting shady people have access to and control over his finances. Which were IMO one of the main reasons for his debts.

Yuuup and Lisa had no problem telling Oprah about MJ trusting the wrong people etc and yet this was going on under her nose too. And by someone she said was her soul mate and who Priscilla put on a pedestal.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

MJ, unfortunatelly, committed the same mistakes with letting shady people have access to and control over his finances. Which were IMO one of the main reasons for his debts.

Yep, snakes everywhere.
In Michael's case though I think it was because he was to kind and trusting.
I often say that Michael was trusting and kind to a fault, and that people often times took advantage of that.
I've never much looked into the causes of Michael's debt, but with Michael's history of being too kind and trusting (and maybe turning a bit of a blind eye to the shadiness you mentioned or just not noticing it because he was so trusting) I always figured that mismanagement by someone or some people he hired to oversee such things could have been one of if not the main reasons behind it.

Yuuup and Lisa had no problem telling Oprah about MJ trusting the wrong people etc and yet this was going on under her nose too. And by someone she said was her soul mate and who Priscilla put on a pedestal.

MTE.
Priscilla also said all sorts of negative things about Michael that didn't make sense and weren't true at all, but let Lockwood an actual goldigging snake slither right into Lisa's life and into her money whilst putting him on a pedestal too.
Welp.

Edit: Overall the reason I think Lockwood easily got into Lisa's life and money was because both Lisa and Priscilla were blinded by the need to make him out to be the newer better Michael in Lisa's life combined with Lockwood himself being sneaky, plotting, and calculating (he had to be sneaky and what not, right? LOL).

 

[terrell]

There are ton's of comments in many of the different articles saying how Lisa has a thing for pedophiles, because she married two of them This makes Michael Jackson look bad. It was too cringe worthy!

I don't know if Lisa is being a vengeful ex wife and doesn't want Michael Lockwood to get one red cent, but if that's what she is doing, that is sad. I'm wondering if Priscilla and Lisa have cooked this up together, because they don't want Michael Lockwood to get any money, whether in the form of alimony or child support. Those two women have always made me suspicious, especially after the hatchet job they did on Michael Jackson and had the audacity to put Michael Lockwood on a pedestal. Just plain mean. I wonder why Lisa is living with her daughter, Riley. She says she is broke. I'm wondering if Lisa handed over the computers last June and no arrests have been made, is Lisa being vengeful.

Well comments in articles often come from people who do not nothing about the sitution and just want to attack. Some people in this comment section are some of these same people who think Beyoncé is not pregnant and that she is wearing a fake baby bump suit. Some people are just stupid or act like they are stupid behind a computer. We have the trial evidence that showed Mj to be innocent. And people who want to continue to believe MJ was guilty can not give no realiable statement or evidence to back up their beliefs. MJ is gone and resting with God; these fool better pray they make it.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Well comments in articles often come from people who do not nothing about the sitution and just want to attack. Some people in this comment section are some of these same people who think Beyoncé is not pregnant and that she is wearing a fake baby bump suit. Some people are just stupid or act like they are stupid behind a computer. We have the trial evidence that showed Mj to be innocent. And people who want to continue to believe MJ was guilty can not give no realiable statement or evidence to back up their beliefs. MJ is gone and resting with God; these fool better pray they make it.

Say it again for the people in the back!
TBH, I never really understand when MJfans go places where they know that there's a 99.9% chance there's gonna be MJ haters then complain about MJ hate.
Like honestly, what do they expect. :/

 

[maral]

I’ve ben a silent reader for a long long time, both here and on other boards. When I heard about the divorce I though nothing about it. Felt sorry for Lisa and the kids. .... wished them the best, moved on. But then all this talk about pictures of children and abuse came out and it’s just a chock. My heart goes out for Lisa and I do believe her as I don’t think she’d make up something this awful. At the same time I can’t stop thinking how ironic this is….literally everything they though MJ was capable to do to Lisa Lockwood apparently has! I remember Lisa once said that she avoided having children with MJ because she knew the custody battle would be nasty…….well here we are!

 

[Goddess4Real]

I’ve ben a silent reader for a long long time, both here and on other boards. When I heard about the divorce I though nothing about it. Felt sorry for Lisa and the kids. .... wished them the best, moved on. But then all this talk about pictures of children and abuse came out and it’s just a chock. My heart goes out for Lisa and I do believe her as I don’t think she’d make up something this awful. At the same time I can’t stop thinking how ironic this is….literally everything they though MJ was capable to do to Lisa Lockwood apparently has! I remember Lisa once said that she avoided having children with MJ because she knew the custody battle would be nasty…….well here we are!

And it wasn't just Priscilla who shaded MJ with innuendo etc it also was some of Lisa's friends and associates too.....especially in 2005 when the trial was going on and she was in the middle of promoting her second album.......even Jermaine called her out on it.....it was like watching someone get kicked when they are down :no: And look what is happening now, are those same family members, friends etc who were so concerned about MJ's "agendas" are they gonna say anything about the recent events.....I don't think so!

[video=youtube;L0DSAghmI8Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0DSAghmI8Q[/video]

 

[maral]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

And it wasn't just Priscilla who shaded MJ with innuendo etc it also was some of Lisa's friends and associates too.....especially in 2005 when the trial was going on and she was in the middle of promoting her second album.......even Jermaine called her out on it.....it was like watching someone get kicked when they are down :no: And look what is happening now, are those same family members, friends etc who were so concerned about MJ's "agendas" are they gonna say anything about the recent events.....I don't think so!

I just think that people around Lisa was intimidated by MJ! Many didn't want to understand that relationship. With Lockwood the guards were down... I mean even I as an longtime fan of her father thought he had grounded her.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Driven was bad and full of Scientology people who wanted to control Lisa. These are also the people who wanted Lockwood in Lisa's life because he wasn't against them.

The worst comments came from Priscilla's brother in law, I think he is not a good person.

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Is Lockwood also behind this story?

http://celebrityinsider.org/lisa-ma...in-daughters-and-she-cannot-be-trusted-22522/

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Possibly. I have seen another story a couple of days ago, I think it was RadarOnline, where they also cite an unnamed source trashing Lisa and praising Lockwood and their source also called Lockwood "Mike". So could be the same source - someone from Lockwood's family. Definitely there was a sentence in that article that made it look like the source is close to Lockwood, possibly family.

This is the Radar article (don't worry, I didn't click on their website, I took it from another forum).




"We tried to help", "Mike" - definitely sounds like someone from Lockwood's family. Maybe one of his parents or sister.

Tabloids, and especially Radar is in full swing trashing LMP, of course. They are basically the online version of the National Enquirer and the NE always had a weird obsession with LMP and they just LOVE to trash her at all times (just like they love to trash MJ). That's not even new to this recent situation, that's so since the 1980s basically and it only became worse after she married MJ. So I'm not surprised if they are automatically taking Lockwood's side. Just like it's not surprising they would take anyone's side (Robson, Safechuck etc.) against MJ.

It would make sense if Lockwood and his lawyers are behind these stories....after all he didn't get what he wanted, and the next important court hearing is on March 1....you know take the heat off him.

 

[maral]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Driven was bad and full of Scientology people who wanted to control Lisa. These are also the people who wanted Lockwood in Lisa's life because he wasn't against them.

The worst comments came from Priscilla's brother in law, I think he is not a good person.

exactly! I think the "church" might be behind all this too, to pull her back in...JMO

 

[Annita]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

'Soon thereafter, I learned that my former business managers had misused my funds,' she added. 'While I am still investigating, I understand that there was extreme misappropriation.

'Additionally, American Express and other entities are considering legal action against me for hundreds of thousands of dollars that they contend I owe them.'

Presley (above with her parents Elvis and Priscilla) claims in court papers filed as part of her divorce that nearly all of her $300 million fortune is gone

She said she no longer has anything like the $60 million she had at the time the post-nuptial was signed.

'I am considering all options to deal with the massive debt that exists, caused by my former business manager and (Lockwood).

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Are there any legal actions from Lisa against the former business manager? Is there info about his name and education/reputation?

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I assume she wouldn't start legal actions until the Lockwood one is sorted out if she decides to sue.

exactly! I think the "church" might be behind all this too, to pull her back in...JMO

The people who leave the church never come back, but the church makes their lives miserable.

 

[Goddess4Real]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Another interesting doc about Lisa Marie Presley-VH1's Inside Out (2005) Part 1, 2 & 3 (and yes MJ is mentioned and some of the people who were in that Driven program are featured here as well) Anyway I still think her Storm & Grace (2012) album is her best work.

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Possibly. I have seen another story a couple of days ago, I think it was RadarOnline, where they also cite an unnamed source trashing Lisa and praising Lockwood and their source also called Lockwood "Mike". So could be the same source - someone from Lockwood's family. Definitely there was a sentence in that article that made it look like the source is close to Lockwood, possibly family.

This is the Radar article (don't worry, I didn't click on their website, I took it from another forum).




"We tried to help", "Mike" - definitely sounds like someone from Lockwood's family. Maybe one of his parents or sister.

Tabloids, and especially Radar is in full swing trashing LMP, of course. They are basically the online version of the National Enquirer and the NE always had a weird obsession with LMP and they just LOVE to trash her at all times (just like they love to trash MJ). That's not even new to this recent situation, that's so since the 1980s basically and it only became worse after she married MJ. So I'm not surprised if they are automatically taking Lockwood's side. Just like it's not surprising they would take anyone's side (Robson, Safechuck etc.) against MJ.

HA priscilla can talk!!! Omg shes unbeliveable! As long as lisa aint loving mj priscilla is happy ..talk bout a mean ass spiteful mother. What if these allegations against lockwood is true and he does have those pics on his computer so priscilla wont be nasty to him then? God she is so hyprocrital and spitefull

 

[AliCat]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

It sounds like Priscilla is more upset with her own daughter. Lockwood is able to see his daughter's, supervised. I believe he will gain more visitation right's as time goes on. I have read that the pictures that Lisa alleges against her husband, Michael Lockwood, were those of their daughter's. I've noticed Lisa likes to insinuate something to manipulate another. Kind of like her insinuation against Michael Jackson. "Only Michael and the boy knows what went on!" She didn't love Michael Jackson. Even Paul McCartney admits he really didn't know John Lennon. And they were the greatest song writing duo ever. "Here Today."

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

HA priscilla can talk!!! Omg shes unbeliveable! As long as lisa aint loving mj priscilla is happy ..talk bout a mean ass spiteful mother. What if these allegations against lockwood is true and he does have those pics on his computer so priscilla wont be nasty to him then? God she is so hyprocrital and spitefull

I don't get why you're wasting your energy on this. It won't do me anything if Priscilla decides to trash Lockwood in public or not. Even if she does, it's not going to happen anytime soon as the divorce is still going, the girls are under her custody and Lisa is not in a good shape so it's not likely that they will make interviews. I don't like Priscilla and what she did to MJ at all and it doesn't matter to me what she says about Lockwood.

Plus I don't know if you've noticed but things with the Presley's have calmed and they're not doing those big interviews about their personal life as much as before. I don't think they will go back to doing these kinds of interviews and I wouldn't call it hypocritical if they don't. There are little girls to consider as well.

I also don't believe the Radar article that says she took Lockwood's side.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I'm glad I have the trolls on ignore

 

[InvincibleMJ]

About the pictures MJ kept in Neverland

But there is one subject to which Michael repeatedly returns during four hours of conversation and picture-taking: Lisa Marie Presley.

Michael’s voice quickens, even quavers, when he speaks of Lisa Marie. How she enjoys the baby. How they are still close after an amicable divorce. How they frolicked overseas the month before. He seems to pine for her. “Lisa Marie was just with me in Africa,” Michael says. “We (went to) IMAX theaters, simulated-ride safaris, dinner. We went parasailing. It was wonderful.”

Even Debbie has acknowledged that Michael is still smitten. “He cares about her very much, but it didn’t work out and he was devastated,” she has said. “He loved her very much. Still does.”

When asked if Lisa Marie has ever expressed second thoughts about not having been the one to bear his son, Michael insists, “She regrets it. She said so.” Would she still consider having a kid with him? “She’d like to, yes,” he says putting a mischievous finger to his lips. “Shh.”

[…]

And there, on one nightstand, rests a framed photograph of Lisa Marie. Not a recent snapshot. Or even a formal portrait. But a picture apparently cut out of a magazine, placed as a child would place it, cockeyed, in a frame meant to hold a photo twice its size. A picture of Elvis and is little girl, then only five years old.” This is the age,” Michael says, “when I first met Lisa Marie. When her father first came to my concerts. I’ve known her ever since.”

A fan who visited Neverland claimed MJ had one of these as well

 

[Annita]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Off course Lisa said she never saw something wrongdoing from Michael with childreen.

But she better did let have away the part "honestly, she was not in the room, only they can say the truth".

Here in her 2010 interview with Oprah, starting at 5.37 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mta3wbjlsaw