Even a few demos tossed onto the iTunes Store would suffice. It makes sense that they'd withhold the more refined material for a proper project, but the version of "Black or White" with a scratch vocal?
Some of the 2-hour (?) writing session of "Give in to Me" when it was being drafted as a dance track?
"Man in Black," considering that the verses are incomplete?
The purportedly 'funkier' demo of "Blood on the Dance Floor" from early 1991?
"Family Thing," also vocally incomplete?
I can't understand how they'd be so naive to recognize that fans are essentially begging for a Dangerous25, begin a celebration using that title... and then spoon feed us amateur/overpriced apparel and do nothing to truly celebrate the album.
If that hoodie wasnt so overpriced i wouldve got it
This. The Estate needs to get with the times. You no longer have to do an extensive, expensive release, just something as small as putting a couple unfinished songs on Itunes would suffice.
I need to hear that version of BOTDF!
This. The Estate needs to get with the times. You no longer have to do an extensive, expensive release, just something as small as putting a couple unfinished songs on Itunes would suffice.
I need to hear that version of BOTDF!
Exactly, it could just be released on Spotify, iTunes, HDTracks etc.
Actually, I'd probably do that if it weren't for the hoodie being on it LOL.Pull a Kris Kross and wear it backwards
WRONG! It HAS to be HUGE!!! This is the world's best selling recording artist! There needs to be a SIX disc box set!!! One of the original studio l.p. on c.d., two c.d.s of demos, outtakes, instrumentals, remixes, a couple of unreleased songs, and some alternative versions of some songs, a d.v.d. concert from a Tokyo show, and two c.d.s of that concert!!!
I'm all for a Dangerous25 release and all, but even if a physical release were to come into fruition at the last minute, they would certainly not give us two CDs with alternative mixes, instrumentals and remixes (all entirely disposable in my opinion.)
The real gems are the outtakes and album demos, though preferably more of the former.
A live DVD is also not impossible.
However, unless a Dangerous tour concert was captured on multi track audio, they shouldn't release a live CD. Front of house mixes are fine for the DVD I guess, but they certainly aren't up to par for a live CD.
The original album + outtakes is all I'm asking for. Simple and straightforward.
(Also, if you want me to be technical... Michael Jackson is the THIRD best-selling recording artist worldwide... :ermm
Exactly, it could just be released on Spotify, iTunes, HDTracks etc. My fear is that all of Michael's hard work is being saved to be diluted and destroyed for future Xscape-esque projects
That's likely what's going to happen. The Estate has made it clear with their actions over years that they don't care about Artistic integrity.
Welp, I don't see a lie.That's likely what's going to happen. The Estate has made it clear with their actions over years that they don't care about Artistic integrity.
Well, this is true to a certain extent.At least they can't ruin what Michael had already given us. That, we will always have.
I think he's just trolling.
Lol. AlwaysThere as far as who is the best selling whomever there is controversy in terms of what the actual numbers are for a number of artists for a number of different reasons. With that said no one but Michael Jackson got not only the world's largest contract in 1991 but the largest one for as few new l.p.s (six) as he did (THOUGH there were supposed to be three feature films that never happened included; and only three new l.p.s were done and both parties ended up counting certain compilations as the other three.) and no one has come close to doing that again NOR for what is not only the world's largest contract for a deceased artist but also STILL the largest (most expensive) contract of all time in 2010 (worth a quarter of a billion U.S. dollars ($250,000,000.00 for not ten l.p.s but ten projects). And, no, TheMidWestCowboy, I am not trolling because of my OBVIOUS passionate discussion on all things Michael Jackson! :innocent:
You mean in the pic on my siggy right?Hey, wait. What is that coming out of Michael's butt?!
In the USA, Garth Brooks has 7 diamond albums, which is more than anyone else, including Elvis, Mike, & The Beatles. I don't think people on this realize the popularity of country music in the US post early 1990s. Country and rap have been the most popular genres of the last 2 decades and didn't lose popularity like grunge, pop punk, and nu-metal did.I have never heard of an Elvis l.p. going Diamond (in terms of sales of ten million)
Hey, wait. What is that coming out of Michael's butt?!
You mean in the pic on my siggy right?
If so, it's a tail.
Same, extremely overpriced especially once I convert it into my currency...
Excatly!
im in the same situation
Well this is something i didn't want to start my day off with. Everyday from mjjc i get disappointed daily because of all the bs information we get everydaySome food for fans' thoughts:
Almost NINE years ago (2007) the cancelled Disc 2 of the Special Edition of Dangerous (mastered in 2000 at Bernie Grundman Mastering) was leaked. Fans were happy, they got some previously unheard tracks/demos ("Work That Body", "She Got It", MJ's "Happy Birthday, Lisa"), two different cuts ("Serious Effect" [shortened] and "If You Don't Love Me" [updated instrumentation]). And it was leaked in lossless.
Back to the present:
The Estate and Sony are not releasing anything (I personally expected this), not even the above mentioned Bonus Disc (the only viable option I could see).
For that "Just why?" you might happen to wonder yourself right now, there's a simple reason: these pirated tracks - that have been all over the internet for 10 years now - would hardly manage to be profitable for both business entities. #fact
You might say they could put out other previously unheard tracks but BAD 25 had SIX of them and yet that project didn't meet their sales expectations. And at the end of the day everything they'd consider is for money, as with every business enterprise.
For them there's no difference between BAD 25 and D25, both are just products. And they obviously don't want to repeat the same mistake (for them).
NOW, for one second, who's to blame for the fact that nothing is happening?
Think twice about the 2007 leak. It was done by fans.
Think twice about BAD 25. The fans and the general public didn't tie into it. Piracy didn't help either.
People at the Estate/Sony can't work miracles if the magic is dead already (2007 leak).
I have seen many fans demanding a Blu-ray (read: HD Remaster) of MJ's many short films. Won't happen either except for a single project like "Thriller" ("Ghosts" also has a small chance in the future) for many reasons including the fact that there's hardly a target audience anymore [short films originally served to promote the then-current albums which are now decades old, most fans have the DVD collections and have unrealistic expectations for their HD Remasters (especially the price)] and the sheer amount of technical ressources [source material is a mess, F/X need to be re-done from scratch (they were originally done at very low resolutions during post production)] and legal costs + contract chaos.
I have seen many fans demanding a Blu-ray (read: HD Remaster) of MJ's many short films. Won't happen either except for a single project like "Thriller" ("Ghosts" also has a small chance in the future) for many reasons including the fact that there's hardly a target audience anymore [short films originally served to promote the then-current albums which are now decades old, most fans have the DVD collections and have unrealistic expectations for their HD Remasters (especially the price)] and the sheer amount of technical ressources [source material is a mess, F/X need to be re-done from scratch (they were originally done at very low resolutions during post production)] and legal costs + contract chaos.
The Beatles music videos were released on Blu-Ray not long ago. Why would they do it if they didn't think they would make money? I'm pretty sure Michael's short films would sell more. Also there is historical side of it. It would be a crime to let the original film elements rot in some warehouse.
Why in the hell do people keep repeating the mantra that "Bad 25" did not sell well enough?! Where do you all get this from?! As it is ALL of Michael's l.p.s are going to be expanded MORE THAN ONCE (and I mean from J5 up to NOW) into super woopty doopty box sets! So some "anniversary" release is not some excuse that it can't and shouldn't be done lmao! Get over yourselves! You are not clever! BUT you might have some altearer (how the how do you spell that?! Lol.) motive! That's for sure!
The Beatles have never had a home video release of their clips, Mike has several. So it's first time sales for The Beatles. Most of the people who want Mike's videos bought them already, and are not as likely to buy them over. The Beatles would have more of a demand because there's none available other than maybe low quality bootlegs and short snippets on the Anthology documentary of a few songs. A lot of the younger market just watch the videos on Youtube, and not likely to buy a DVD/Blu Ray of music videos. In general, home videos of music have never really been huge sellers like popular movies are. That's why many of them went out of print or were only available during the VHS era.The Beatles music videos were released on Blu-Ray not long ago. Why would they do it if they didn't think they would make money? I'm pretty sure Michael's short films would sell more. Also there is historical side of it. It would be a crime to let the original film elements rot in some warehouse.
If someone wants to buy DVDs of Mike's clips, they're still in print. One is called Vision, which has pretty much all of them. What's the point of putting another one out there? It'll be like Motown and their endless compilations with the same songs like My Girl, Baby Love, and I Heard It Through The Grapevine. At best another one would cut into the sales of the ones already available. You act like Mike's videos are rare and can't be purchased or seen. Now that would be Prince since he always pulled his videos and music off of online sites like Youtube, or threatened lawsuits to people who posted his stuff on there. He only released a VHS/DVD of a few clips out of many he's filmed. There are also 2 or 3 that went out of print that were tied to his early 1990's albums Diamonds & Pearls and the symbol album. One was a VHS that has several remix videos to Gett Off.Yeah, there were only twelve thousand music home videos...sigh. Oh, well, Michael Jackson doesn't sell anymore. When does the website close down?