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Petrarose
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True and I agree with the estate. The estate has formed an identity of Michael as a humanitarian, Seeker of human peace & love, great artistic talent, & global super star. They cannot go chasing after every lowlife article, because every time they engage in discourse with them about trash, they lower Michael's identity a little bit. They need to distance themselves from these tabloids otherwise more and more tabloids will be creating stories to make the estate pay attention to them, which causes the stories to last longer in the media. The estate has to choose its battles and deal with situations where there is a strong legal basis to win or recover damages. Notice the FBI knows that this story is not true, but they are not calling out the tabloid. When the law changes so that tabloids cannot hide behind it, or when a law is in place that prevents defaming the dead, then it would be possible to deal with these stories legally.
If someone makes a comment and 50 words are 'right' in someone else's opinion, but one word is 'wrong,' then like a laser beam, the focus goes on that one 'wrong' word and the criticism begins. Doing that on a regular basis can be very tiresome and also lead to good things getting trashed. Isn't that what happened to MJ? Looking for the flaws and harping on them?
a year or so ago when the Aaron Carter stories were making the rounds many fans emailed Online Team asking Estate to make a statement. They were hesitant and Online Team said to me "when we respond to such stories, they again become the news". And they are right. We might not all agree but it's probably why they choose to ignore such news and try to focus on the positives.
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They have to make a decision on what they will react to. Tabloids create stories to get attention which leads to revenue, so any attention is good for them. If the estate responds, the tabloid will still print another story and will not say they lied. It is better to have other sources debunk the trash so that the estate's identity will not become meshed in with the tabloid's crap. You do not want to do a search for MJ estate and all the results show topics like Branca/McClain and FBI..... Branca/McClain and Fiddes......, Branca/McClain and Sullivan Untouchable..... The estate is sending a message that Michael Jackson is not equal to allegations, when they do not give these lies constant attention. Further they are not ignoring ALL false claims, but some of them. They did speak out against the autopsy show on Discovery, for example, so it seems they are choosing their battles.
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It's always easier to find fault--if you look for flaws in anything, you will find them. Sitting back and pointing fingers, fault finding, criticizing the work that others do to try and make the world 'a better place for you and for me' is what happened to Michael. He was put under the microscope and an endless number of fault finders had a go at him, and they are still doing it. Personally, I think the governments that host these media outlets need to take action (and people, including me, have reported the latest tabloid BS to the UK Press Complaints Commission). It is too much to ask the Estate to take on this massive problem, which has been allowed to fester and rot for decades. Why not do what WE can as individuals to demand that the press needs to be regulated at least to the extent that they don't broadcast flat-out lies?
MJ said in TII--don't wait for 'them' to take care of problems--it's up to US.
MJ said in TII--don't wait for 'them' to take care of problems--it's up to US.
well Michael went through a trial, found innocent and still some people don't believe it and media write negative stories.
So if a not guilty verdict in a court of law wasn't enough for the media and/or general public, it's unrealistic to expect any statement from anybody to change the minds of the people.
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MJ said in TII--don't wait for 'them' to take care of problems--it's up to US. Thanks jamba!
I was just thinking about Michael's humanitarian efforts and how he was going to, through his "This Is It" Show's, remind us to take care of the environment. After watching a documentary about fracking for natural gas, and how it destroys the ground water that is only useful for lighting a match to and seeing how much natural gas is in your drinking water. Then, you can't even wash your dishes or clothes in. Then with all the waste water that is sent out into the Gulf of Mexico and then through the Hurricane's, the waste water comes back on land. Michael knew what was going on in the environment and that's why he was going to show us in his "This Is It," Show's. What a humanitarian he truly was. Let's thank the Estate of Michael Jackson for keeping Michael's integrity in tact!
I was just thinking about Michael's humanitarian efforts and how he was going to, through his "This Is It" Show's, remind us to take care of the environment. After watching a documentary about fracking for natural gas, and how it destroys the ground water that is only useful for lighting a match to and seeing how much natural gas is in your drinking water. Then, you can't even wash your dishes or clothes in. Then with all the waste water that is sent out into the Gulf of Mexico and then through the Hurricane's, the waste water comes back on land. Michael knew what was going on in the environment and that's why he was going to show us in his "This Is It," Show's. What a humanitarian he truly was. Let's thank the Estate of Michael Jackson for keeping Michael's integrity in tact!
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A bit late but better late than never.
As for Friedman. Often he writes utter BS about Michael, but in this case he did hear the Mitteager tapes and did write articles about them in 2005 which now helped us to realize what these so called "FBI files" were.
It's not quiet true though. Friedman is only as good as his source is. Sometimes he teamed up with Michael's enemies, such as Marc Schaffel. Schaffel during his civil trial against Michael in 2006 tried to pressure Michael into a settlement and how did he do it? Of course, with insinuations and innuendo that Michael was a child molester. And Friedman gave support to him in that! Friedman wrote several articles about Schaffel's story that he helped to pay off a family in South America with $300,000 suggesting that was because Michael molested their son. Of course, the story was not true, and it was proven during the civil trial that Schaffel just made it up. Friedman never reported about it when it was shown in court that Friedman lied about the $300,000. It was very transparent what Schaffel and Friedman were doing, because Friedman finished each article about this by saying "Jackson would better settle with Marc Schaffel if he doesn't want more stories like this coming out about him".
Also Friedman a couple of weeks ago wrote an article on his website saying that during the search at Neverland in 2003 "gay teen porn" was found in Michael's possession. That's false. All the magazines he mentioned were straight porn magazines and I wrote a comment to him about that, using court transcript to show it (as those magazines were described in detail in court). I was polite, respectful, using factual data, but he never let my comment through...
As for Friedman. Often he writes utter BS about Michael, but in this case he did hear the Mitteager tapes and did write articles about them in 2005 which now helped us to realize what these so called "FBI files" were.
It's not quiet true though. Friedman is only as good as his source is. Sometimes he teamed up with Michael's enemies, such as Marc Schaffel. Schaffel during his civil trial against Michael in 2006 tried to pressure Michael into a settlement and how did he do it? Of course, with insinuations and innuendo that Michael was a child molester. And Friedman gave support to him in that! Friedman wrote several articles about Schaffel's story that he helped to pay off a family in South America with $300,000 suggesting that was because Michael molested their son. Of course, the story was not true, and it was proven during the civil trial that Schaffel just made it up. Friedman never reported about it when it was shown in court that Friedman lied about the $300,000. It was very transparent what Schaffel and Friedman were doing, because Friedman finished each article about this by saying "Jackson would better settle with Marc Schaffel if he doesn't want more stories like this coming out about him".
Also Friedman a couple of weeks ago wrote an article on his website saying that during the search at Neverland in 2003 "gay teen porn" was found in Michael's possession. That's false. All the magazines he mentioned were straight porn magazines and I wrote a comment to him about that, using court transcript to show it (as those magazines were described in detail in court). I was polite, respectful, using factual data, but he never let my comment through...
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The news about these so called "FBI files" spread like wildfire. Here in my country it was reported in mainstream media as a fact! It would have made a difference if the Estate reacted quickly and with factual rebuttal of the story. In this case it was not even that hard to rebute it. Fans did it all over on the internet - spotting the source of the story, spotting what these files really were, spotting the lies etc. I realize that fans probably know more about the allegations than Branca and McClain. They probably did not spend years with researching it like many of us did. But they will have to learn to handle this aspect as well, because it's the single biggest threat to Michael's legacy.
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Sometimes it's best not to react because if it's not mainstream news it will only make it bigger news if they react. But in this case it was unfortunately all over in the media. A lot of websites published it, mainstream media published it, it even crossed over to some "serious media" (we know how they too become tabloid when it comes to Michael). So IMO this was a situation when they HAD TO react and not keep silent and low-key about it.
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Estate messed up big time with this. pretty pointless putting out a statement other than to tell fans that we will just ignore tabloids as theres nothing we can do.just trying to defend themselves after the pathetic statement they put out when it happened. in the instance of these fake fbi files there was alot they could have done. as soon ad they were made aware they should have been putting out an anrgy retraction of the story stating the facts of what these fbi files really were. they have the facts/truth about the history of these files so should have been shouting it loud and wide.
this was not like other stupid stories that deserve to be ignored this as others said was reported as fact (because of the way the people intentionally twisted the docs) by many mainstream and supposed respected media outlets. Thats how you re write history especially when those whos job it is to protect you sit and do nothing which to many is an exceptence that it is the truth.
this statement imo is an excuse/defence/damage control for the ridiculous first statement.pointless and a waste of time. the damage is done and on this the estate were as incompetent as can be in defending mjs legacy.
this was not like other stupid stories that deserve to be ignored this as others said was reported as fact (because of the way the people intentionally twisted the docs) by many mainstream and supposed respected media outlets. Thats how you re write history especially when those whos job it is to protect you sit and do nothing which to many is an exceptence that it is the truth.
this statement imo is an excuse/defence/damage control for the ridiculous first statement.pointless and a waste of time. the damage is done and on this the estate were as incompetent as can be in defending mjs legacy.
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I am glad that the MJ Estate has finally released a stronger statement, but it's a little late IMO. It's a pity the law doesn't protect the dead better, after all, lies are lies whether the person is dead or alive. The results can have a devastating effect on family, friends and also the earning power of a dead person's estate. Worst of all though, lies can do irreversable damage to a person's reputation. While Mj's reputation was already damaged, more and more lies are only going to erode whatever respect/admiration/appreciation the public has left for MJ and his music.
Personally I see nothing wrong with referencing Friedman - it's the spirit of the Estate's message that counts.
Yes, Friedman wrote things that we in the fan community don't like but he is bang on track in his comments on the recent articles - the articles the statement addresses. Also, despite whatever else Friedman wrote about MJ he was a very strong supporter when the allegations broke in 2003 through to the end of the trial in 2005. He knew they were false and he said so, with articulate articles and interviews. For many people, the child abuse allegations are their biggest reason to hate on MJ. Roger defended that and deserves kudos for that at least.
I agree that the MJ Estate releasing public statements may well draw more attention to the original article than it already received, BUT when an article is spreading across the globe like wildfire, the attention is already there. Releasing a statement within a day or two of that happening is not going to have a significant impact IMO. It's best to counter a big story at the time, while it is still at the top of the news list. Yesterday I noticed that the false stories were no longer dominating the top of the google news search results for the first time in over a week. Releasing this statement now, AFTER the whole thing has died down is too late - it DOES have the potential to bring the stories back to the top of the news lists, which is something the Estate should have wanted to avoid. I first read about this statement because I saw it on Google news, then I came to MJJC. Kinda proves my point.
Personally I see nothing wrong with referencing Friedman - it's the spirit of the Estate's message that counts.
Yes, Friedman wrote things that we in the fan community don't like but he is bang on track in his comments on the recent articles - the articles the statement addresses. Also, despite whatever else Friedman wrote about MJ he was a very strong supporter when the allegations broke in 2003 through to the end of the trial in 2005. He knew they were false and he said so, with articulate articles and interviews. For many people, the child abuse allegations are their biggest reason to hate on MJ. Roger defended that and deserves kudos for that at least.
I agree that the MJ Estate releasing public statements may well draw more attention to the original article than it already received, BUT when an article is spreading across the globe like wildfire, the attention is already there. Releasing a statement within a day or two of that happening is not going to have a significant impact IMO. It's best to counter a big story at the time, while it is still at the top of the news list. Yesterday I noticed that the false stories were no longer dominating the top of the google news search results for the first time in over a week. Releasing this statement now, AFTER the whole thing has died down is too late - it DOES have the potential to bring the stories back to the top of the news lists, which is something the Estate should have wanted to avoid. I first read about this statement because I saw it on Google news, then I came to MJJC. Kinda proves my point.
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I personally don't mind if they used RF articles to support their statement. After all, we read RF articles and they were right on, so why not use them (although I draw the line on using Demon Dimond). As for statement coming too late. How could they release the statement if they didn't have those articles to support it (weren't written then) and they have to be careful what they say as they may end up in court for something that is not true, and they do fight this fight in court anyway with WR.
Better save their information to court where it really matters.
Better save their information to court where it really matters.
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The CNN article was written IMO because fans sent Alan Duke the facts or because Duke himself monitored fan boards for info. The Roger Friedman articles are there since 2005. He only brought them foreward now. Or there is that Tabloid Truth documentary which proves these documents are Barresi's. I know that Branca and McClain were probably not aware of these, but fans were and those Friedman articles were brought up in forums immediately. I think the Estate should monitor fan boards about the allegations as well, becasue fans very often have very good information.
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Totally agree with elusive - the estate statement was far too little and far too late. Personally as a fan i didn't need this statement, i don't look to the estate for reassurance that these tabs aren't factual and be told to just ignore them, i'm looking to the estate as mj's representatives to actually put out a statement to the media rebutting these lies. I can't believe that they're relying on roger and ddimond to do the legwork for them - it's their job. The daily mail actually had asked for a statement from the estate in one of their articles and was told no comment. Alot of the subsequent articles included soundbites from tmez's interview - so alot of media are prepared to have a counter statement - so where on earth was it from the people earning $millions representing mj's estate? To just rely on the fact that there is no defamation law for the dead as an excuse for doing nothing is ridiculous. In any case, the lawyer for the estate who is very much alive is actually named, unredacted, in documents as paying off one of mj's victims - but unbelievably there's been no denial.
Well as far as i'm concerned the estate is wrong. No individual or brand or organisation is going to sit back and have claims that the fbi has info that a person is a pedo paying off dozens of victims flying round the media, so i dont' see why mj shd be the exception. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, it won't be forgotten - it will turn up in wiki, authors like sullivan who rely on tab articles will repeat it in their books, the general public will put it in their memory banks. Even powerful prime ministers monitor the tabloids religiously - they have massive circulations and can set agendas, so we can skip the lofty, snooty view of the influence of the tabs. MJ's reputation is a fragile thing and the estate needs to be really vigilant and hands on about it, esp in the light of wade's accusations, it's just a really tricky time atm. The estate may be good at the legal stuff and wheeling and dealing, but as for handling the pr for a massive controversial superstar - on this particular issue they've been hopeless.
Well as far as i'm concerned the estate is wrong. No individual or brand or organisation is going to sit back and have claims that the fbi has info that a person is a pedo paying off dozens of victims flying round the media, so i dont' see why mj shd be the exception. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth, it won't be forgotten - it will turn up in wiki, authors like sullivan who rely on tab articles will repeat it in their books, the general public will put it in their memory banks. Even powerful prime ministers monitor the tabloids religiously - they have massive circulations and can set agendas, so we can skip the lofty, snooty view of the influence of the tabs. MJ's reputation is a fragile thing and the estate needs to be really vigilant and hands on about it, esp in the light of wade's accusations, it's just a really tricky time atm. The estate may be good at the legal stuff and wheeling and dealing, but as for handling the pr for a massive controversial superstar - on this particular issue they've been hopeless.
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Excellent last paragraph bonnie
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That's a fair point and I'd probably agree with it in theory. It just looked more like he didn't have an answer. He looked stumped.
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Of course they do, they continue to make people read more lies and became more stupid and the more lies they spread to make people believe it, makes me wish all tabloids should be dead just like "News Of The World" did. They never learn to stop and they still continue to be stupid by not accepting the truth and facts.
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And also it says a lot about the person who wrote the story. You are telling lies and you know it that tells me you are the with the issues.
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I agree with Bonnie Blue. These statements are just the estate’s attempts to communicate with fans. They are posted ONLY on fanboards, and as far as the media and general public goes, the estate is still silent. So this statement is not ”late,” it just doesn’t do anything at all to help Michael.
It’s a double-sided coin, and their reservations about touching these issues are understandable. It’s true that when you comment on the issue on official level, you draw attention to the issue more, so in many cases it’s better to let it pass. And Michael himself followed this tactics a lot: “Why give it more attention?”
But I feel there a borderline, and when it’s crossed, you have to react with a damage control. As Respect said, this story spread, and in other countries it was reported as a fact from the FBI, not as a story from the Mirror tabloid. I can’t imagine how many thousands of people in different countries have been convinced in the past two weeks that Michael did it. Had an official spokesperson issued a statement to the press the same day or next day, countering the lies – not just saying “it’s sad and disgusting,” but actually calling them out and pointing to real sources – had this appeared on respected news sites, I feel that maybe the worldwide negative impact could have been lessened. Especially since this time the allegations directly concerned the very Howard Weizman - silence was not the way to go, imo. Now it looks like he's been covering for Michael for years, and continues doing it now.
It’s a double-sided coin, and their reservations about touching these issues are understandable. It’s true that when you comment on the issue on official level, you draw attention to the issue more, so in many cases it’s better to let it pass. And Michael himself followed this tactics a lot: “Why give it more attention?”
But I feel there a borderline, and when it’s crossed, you have to react with a damage control. As Respect said, this story spread, and in other countries it was reported as a fact from the FBI, not as a story from the Mirror tabloid. I can’t imagine how many thousands of people in different countries have been convinced in the past two weeks that Michael did it. Had an official spokesperson issued a statement to the press the same day or next day, countering the lies – not just saying “it’s sad and disgusting,” but actually calling them out and pointing to real sources – had this appeared on respected news sites, I feel that maybe the worldwide negative impact could have been lessened. Especially since this time the allegations directly concerned the very Howard Weizman - silence was not the way to go, imo. Now it looks like he's been covering for Michael for years, and continues doing it now.
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Roger Friedman has published the Letter from the Estate on ShowBiz411.
I hope he Publishes The fans open letter to the media as well and other media sites follow suit.
Michael Jackson Estate Posts Letter to the Fans Supporting Michael
07/10/13 6:28pm Roger Friedman
In a rare move, Michael Jackson’s executors have posted a letter to his fans. The letter supports Michael and criticizes the latest spate of negative stories from the British press. I’m surprised– and flattered–that they cited a story I wrote about the malicious falsehoods that were created from decades old, discredited gossip. I don’t know if it’s available online, but I spent about a half hour on Tuesday morning with Mark Simone on WOR Radio here in New York going over all this stuff again.
Message From The Estate Of Michael Jackson regarding recent tabloid stories :
We know many fans have been upset by recent tabloid stories in the UK about Michael. In his song “Tabloid Junkie” Michael Jackson sings: Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a TV screen doesn’t make it factual.
Sadly, we were recently reminded of just how prophetic Michael’s lyrics were when these disgraceful, stale and discredited stories more than two decades old were published making unfounded allegations about Michael and so-called FBI “files.” It should be no surprise that one of the authors of this rehash has a long history of writing tabloid articles about Michael. It also should be noted that he formerly was a top editor at a scandal-ridden British tabloid that folded following revelations that the phones of celebrities, public figures and even a child murder victim were illegally hacked. Even more unseemly was one press account in which the tabloid’s source was identified as a former investigator whose license was revoked and who also has filed for bankruptcy. He isn’t denying that he was paid to tell these falsehoods, but he is boasting about his pornography career. It goes without saying that this callous and brazen disregard shown Michael’s children, family and fans is beyond reprehensible.
Responsible journalists who don’t practice checkbook journalism have thoroughly debunked this disgusting story and its unreliable sources. Showbiz411 titled its story: “ ‘FBI Files’ Are From People Discredited Long Time Ago” (http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/06/3...les-are-from-people-discredited-long-time-ago). CNN called the London tabloid reports a “questionable” rehash while noting that, “A website can enjoy a sharp spike in traffic — which can translate into advertising revenue — with a sensational headline” (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/showbiz/michael-jackson-files) in describing how media can play fast and loose with the truth to drive viewers or readers to their site.
We believe unethical tabloid journalists and publications spreading falsehoods about Michael for their own selfish reasons are best ignored. Sadly, they hide shamelessly behind a legal shield allowing them to smear those who are no longer with us. As readers abandon them and their businesses collapse, they desperately seek attention and publicity. We don’t believe they deserve it, and are confident that discredited articles such as these vanish quickly and are easily forgotten.
Rest assured that Michael’s legacy is his artistic genius. It’s his humanitarian work that touched millions, and his global messages of peace. Most important, Michael’s legacy is his enduring love for his children, his family and his fans.
- John Branca and John McClain, Co-Executors, The Estate Of Michael Jackson
SOURCE: http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/07/1...e-posts-letter-to-the-fans-supporting-michael
I hope he Publishes The fans open letter to the media as well and other media sites follow suit.
Michael Jackson Estate Posts Letter to the Fans Supporting Michael
07/10/13 6:28pm Roger Friedman
In a rare move, Michael Jackson’s executors have posted a letter to his fans. The letter supports Michael and criticizes the latest spate of negative stories from the British press. I’m surprised– and flattered–that they cited a story I wrote about the malicious falsehoods that were created from decades old, discredited gossip. I don’t know if it’s available online, but I spent about a half hour on Tuesday morning with Mark Simone on WOR Radio here in New York going over all this stuff again.
Message From The Estate Of Michael Jackson regarding recent tabloid stories :
We know many fans have been upset by recent tabloid stories in the UK about Michael. In his song “Tabloid Junkie” Michael Jackson sings: Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on a TV screen doesn’t make it factual.
Sadly, we were recently reminded of just how prophetic Michael’s lyrics were when these disgraceful, stale and discredited stories more than two decades old were published making unfounded allegations about Michael and so-called FBI “files.” It should be no surprise that one of the authors of this rehash has a long history of writing tabloid articles about Michael. It also should be noted that he formerly was a top editor at a scandal-ridden British tabloid that folded following revelations that the phones of celebrities, public figures and even a child murder victim were illegally hacked. Even more unseemly was one press account in which the tabloid’s source was identified as a former investigator whose license was revoked and who also has filed for bankruptcy. He isn’t denying that he was paid to tell these falsehoods, but he is boasting about his pornography career. It goes without saying that this callous and brazen disregard shown Michael’s children, family and fans is beyond reprehensible.
Responsible journalists who don’t practice checkbook journalism have thoroughly debunked this disgusting story and its unreliable sources. Showbiz411 titled its story: “ ‘FBI Files’ Are From People Discredited Long Time Ago” (http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/06/3...les-are-from-people-discredited-long-time-ago). CNN called the London tabloid reports a “questionable” rehash while noting that, “A website can enjoy a sharp spike in traffic — which can translate into advertising revenue — with a sensational headline” (http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/03/showbiz/michael-jackson-files) in describing how media can play fast and loose with the truth to drive viewers or readers to their site.
We believe unethical tabloid journalists and publications spreading falsehoods about Michael for their own selfish reasons are best ignored. Sadly, they hide shamelessly behind a legal shield allowing them to smear those who are no longer with us. As readers abandon them and their businesses collapse, they desperately seek attention and publicity. We don’t believe they deserve it, and are confident that discredited articles such as these vanish quickly and are easily forgotten.
Rest assured that Michael’s legacy is his artistic genius. It’s his humanitarian work that touched millions, and his global messages of peace. Most important, Michael’s legacy is his enduring love for his children, his family and his fans.
- John Branca and John McClain, Co-Executors, The Estate Of Michael Jackson
SOURCE: http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/07/1...e-posts-letter-to-the-fans-supporting-michael
MJ said in TII--don't wait for 'them' to take care of problems--it's up to US. Thanks jamba!
I was just thinking about Michael's humanitarian efforts and how he was going to, through his "This Is It" Show's, remind us to take care of the environment. After watching a documentary about fracking for natural gas, and how it destroys the ground water that is only useful for lighting a match to and seeing how much natural gas is in your drinking water. Then, you can't even wash your dishes or clothes in. Then with all the waste water that is sent out into the Gulf of Mexico and then through the Hurricane's, the waste water comes back on land. Michael knew what was going on in the environment and that's why he was going to show us in his "This Is It," Show's. What a humanitarian he truly was. Let's thank the Estate of Michael Jackson for keeping Michael's integrity in tact!
Thanks. Alicat, great comment and I agree that MJ really wanted us to act to protect the earth and wildlife and ecosystems. In fact, reading your comment, I am thinking maybe it would be good to start a fund that fans could contribute to that would give $ to the key organizations that are fighting to protect the earth. I know this is off topic but your comment made me think of that. The 2 animal species that are specifically mentioned in Earth Song are 'crying whales' and 'what about elephants? Have we lost their trust?" These are the only 2 species he names in that song. So donations could be made for those 2 species in his name. Just an idea.
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It's even worse when they respond. The fact of the matter is that the law does not give them much option to begin with. so in the end it's a loosing battle draining unnecessary resources.
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How can it be worse. the estate should have jumped on the story. put out a statement stating the truth behind the files. the story was racing around the world so them putting a statement out when it was at its height wouldnt have hurt mj it would have been an attempt to put out the flames or at least control them
it sums it up when we have to rely on friedman and the estate is having him defend mj instead of them doing it. talk about the twilight zone
it sums it up when we have to rely on friedman and the estate is having him defend mj instead of them doing it. talk about the twilight zone
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No its not cuz since michael is no longer here to defend himself and say whats true and what not its the job of the estate to do that now really . Also like elusive moonwalker said had they jumped at the start of when the lies come bound those lies wouldve been demolished before it got bad. Another thing fans were the ones telling the estate who they found/thought to be behind it right from the start do the estate wouldve had some info im sure
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From reading some posts it seems many think the estate does not know about the allegations or what facts prove Michael is not a molester. Some think the estate should look at the fan boards to gain knowledge. I don't know what made fans think the estate lacks knowledge. They know. The thing is that they have a stance in relation to the allegations that some fans do not accept. Anyone who is expecting the estate to go full out and write a statement to the tabloid media, or ask for a retraction for a "dead man" ^^ is going to wait a long time.
The estate's lawyer's statement about Wade, did not stop Wade from going on tv to make statements or his lawyers' statements. NO statement from the estate is going to make the tabloids stop writing these stories, unless the estate has a legal right to make them stop. The estate does not, so they can only appeal to the tabloid's ethics or moral fiber and that is a big joke.
Any statement from the estate is a mere gesture, so what is this drive to have them make one? A statement from them is not going to solve the main cause of this problem. The tabloid will leave the FBI story, and will move on to their next. That is the way the game is played. The estate should make no big public statements about these allegation lies. They should focus on fighting lies in court where evidence can come out.
Sending statements to refute lies is not going to work. The papers will still PRINT the lies and simple put in "according to the estate, the FBI story is false as proven by the actual FBI report." This is the MO of the media. They will still write paragraphs of the fake story, but then simply put in a comment from your statement, and that will not solve the problem, so the estate needs to stay away from this. Notice that when they wrote about Wade story, they wrote what Wade said, and then added the little comment from the estate lawyer. The estate lawyer's comment did not stop the story.
The estate, to me, is doing the right thing. Up to today no one has told me they heard about this story or saw it plastered all over the news.
The estate's lawyer's statement about Wade, did not stop Wade from going on tv to make statements or his lawyers' statements. NO statement from the estate is going to make the tabloids stop writing these stories, unless the estate has a legal right to make them stop. The estate does not, so they can only appeal to the tabloid's ethics or moral fiber and that is a big joke.
Any statement from the estate is a mere gesture, so what is this drive to have them make one? A statement from them is not going to solve the main cause of this problem. The tabloid will leave the FBI story, and will move on to their next. That is the way the game is played. The estate should make no big public statements about these allegation lies. They should focus on fighting lies in court where evidence can come out.
Sending statements to refute lies is not going to work. The papers will still PRINT the lies and simple put in "according to the estate, the FBI story is false as proven by the actual FBI report." This is the MO of the media. They will still write paragraphs of the fake story, but then simply put in a comment from your statement, and that will not solve the problem, so the estate needs to stay away from this. Notice that when they wrote about Wade story, they wrote what Wade said, and then added the little comment from the estate lawyer. The estate lawyer's comment did not stop the story.
The estate, to me, is doing the right thing. Up to today no one has told me they heard about this story or saw it plastered all over the news.