Michael and Lisa Marie Discussion (Positive Thread)

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Thing is Shana acts like MJ's marriage to Lisa was all sudden when it clearly wasn't. Maybe it was sudden to HER because she learned about it from the media when the news broke but MJ's relationship with Lisa had been going for more than a year before that. IMO Shana had a very limited contact with MJ (if any) so Shana doesn't really fit into the picture. She shouldn't have claimed they were close in 1993.

Yes, some people are clearly missing the fact that Lisa didn't just suddenly pop up after the allegations. Something was already going on before the allegations as well.

 

[barbee0715]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Thing is Shana acts like MJ's marriage to Lisa was all sudden when it clearly wasn't. Maybe it was sudden to HER because she learned about it from the media when the news broke but MJ's relationship with Lisa had been going for more than a year before that. IMO Shana had a very limited contact with MJ (if any) so Shana doesn't really fit into the picture. She shouldn't have claimed they were close in 1993.



She actually asked him if he has ever been in love so it could be he was giving her a more general answer so it could be anyone at any given time. I agree with you that around that time MJ and Lisa were already seeing each other. It could be Lisa because when he says "another girl" (singular) it sounds like he had someone particular or recent in mind.

I think Oprah kind of pushed him to say he was in love with Brooke after he said they were "dating" at the time. I believe the relationship he had with Brooke was more platonic, not really dating.

You're right about the in love thing. I forgot-I usually go by memory. But I think even when I watch something on YouTube I hear what I did the first time. Lol. Still think it's Lisa because it seems like a present tense thing.
I remember reading an interview a few years ago about the little girl that was showcased on Oprahs pre-show. And when she was at Neverland, she saw Lisa Marie there a lot.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Yes, some people are clearly missing the fact that Lisa didn't just suddenly pop up after the allegations. Something was already going on before the allegations as well.

Some people like to avoid this fact she didn't suddenly pop up for obvious reasons. It doesn't fit their theories.

So far Shana seems to feed the media's false stories about MJ instead of defending him, just so she can say she had a 20 year long relationship with him :smilerolleyes:

You're right about the in love thing. I forgot-I usually go by memory. But I think even when I watch something on YouTube I hear what I did the first time. Lol. Still think it's Lisa because it seems like a present tense thing.
I remember reading an interview a few years ago about the little girl that was showcased on Oprahs pre-show. And when she was at Neverland, she saw Lisa Marie there a lot.

Yeah, I agree with that. It does seem like a present thing.

I think you mean Amy Agajanian:

"She said she thinks she was MJ’s best friend (but of course she wouldn’t really know for sure) until Lisa Marie came along. She told me about accompanying the couple to a few outings, including at Neverland and a Disney trip, and she BURNED with jealousy, the poor little thing. She said it was obvious they were in love, always holding hands and kissing. So Michael started finding less and less time for her.


Oh, in the interest of fairness to LMP , she said LMP was as sweet as could be to her and she did come to like her."

So cute :laugh:

 

[Annita]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Is there any picture which shows Lisa and Michael with Prince and/or Paris?

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

^ Not anything that made it to the public but funny you should ask - check these recent posts from Paris on Instagram:

And:

parisjackson ??????

From Elvis' birthday this year:

parisjacksonthe king is 81 ?? #gramps


https://www.instagram.com/p/BAS7gqQJr1I/

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

more from Paris:

parisjackson stoked

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGvvXufpr7Y/?taken-by=parisjackson

 

[andythemisfit]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BHF8PiygXF5/?taken-by=kidslife&hl=e Omer Bhatti shared this:

 

[InvincibleMJ]

^ Sweet footage. They all look so happy.

New Michael and Lisa mention in a Jimmy Jam interview about Michael:

What are your favourite anecdotes from working with Michael?

We used to have long conversations about all sorts of stuff. Once Michael said to me, ‘Jimmy, how do you want to be remembered when you die?’ I said to him, ‘I want to be remembered as a nice guy’. So Michael goes, ‘No, I mean how do you want to be remembered?’ He meant how many number ones I made, what kind of producer I was, just statistics. And I said, ‘Michael, they’re just statistics. They aren’t who I am.’ He just didn’t get it…he was totally puzzled.

A year later, I needed to get a sample cleared with Michael for using ‘Billie Jean’. Before I could ask him anything, he said, ‘Remember what you said about how you want to be remembered? Every time someone asks me about you, I just say, he’s the nicest guy.’ And I said, ‘Michael I’m glad you understood.’ And he just got it in that one moment. It’s a conversation that I’ll always remember. Although Michael had all those groundbreaking hits, albums, tours and videos, he was simply one of the nicest people I’ve ever met and worked with.

One day when we were in the studio we were waiting in the lounge for Michael and my wife was there, as was Lisa Marie Presley, who we knew through Janet. And my wife asked Lisa Marie what she saw in Michael. Lisa just gave a genuine response. “He is the kindest, nicest person I have ever met”, she said. And it was accurate; he was just a great dude.

[...]

I actually disagreed with Michael and Sony on what should be the first single from the album. They wanted ‘Scream’, but I felt it should have been ‘You Are Not Alone’.

Firstly, Michael was very much in love with Lisa Marie and they were happy. I thought they should have let people see that they were in love and ‘You Are Not Alone’ was the perfect song for that and perfect for a big ‘Welcome Back’. The public were excited about Michael’s new music and I think what had happened with the accusations was beginning to drift away. I just felt that the nature of ‘Scream’ would bring everything that had happened back up, just as it was slowly being forgotten about. But Michael was angry about what had happened and wanted ‘Scream’. I’m not the record company, but I just felt it reopened the wounds a little.

Full interview:
http://www.makingmichael.co.uk/#!In...ucer-Jimmy-Jam/fagil/576301e60cf23063aa8f8085

I disagree with what he says about Scream and You Are Not Alone, but otherwise cute story about Lisa and Michael “He is the kindest, nicest person I have ever met”. :wub:

 

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

According to TMZ Lisa filed for divorce from her current husband Michael Lockwood two weeks ago.

She only wants to give him visitation rights to their kids if it is monitored.

 

[barbee0715]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

According to TMZ Lisa filed for divorce from her current husband Michael Lockwood two weeks ago.

She only wants to give him visitation rights to their kids if it is monitored.

I just saw that myself on Yahoo news. I wonder why the request for monitored visits-is he a Scientologist? I know she left a few years back.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I'm shocked!

NOT!

I just saw that myself on Yahoo news. I wonder why the request for monitored visits-is he a Scientologist? I know she left a few years back.

He joined the Church of Scientology before they got married and he left when she left. :smilerolleyes:

I hope Lisa is doing ok.

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

It's odd that Lisa doesn't want Lockwood to see the twins unless it's monitored. We're talking about the same woman who kept her first husband living at the pool house so he could be part of her children's life. That's another thing I think bothered MJ a lot and I can see why.

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Hi I was wondering if any of you guys posted bout her latest soon to be divorced

When I found out this morning I was in total shock and could not believe it . I thought for sure this marriage would last her for the rest of her life. I'm not her biggest fan but still man what the hell happened???!! and I'm curious to know why he needs to be "monitored" when being around his own kids.....he doesn't seem the type to hurt his kids or any kids for that matter...hmmm

 

[ChrisC]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Sad to hear that. I hope she can find some happiness again.

 

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Lisa Marie Presley Filed for Divorce After Husband 'Took Advantage' of Her Money, Lawyer Claims

By Janine Rubenstein @JanineRube

06/29/2016 AT 05:00 PM EDT

After 10 years of marriage, Lisa Marie Presley filed for divorce from musician Michael Lockwood on June 13, citing irreconcilable differences. And though her lawyer says they've since updated the petition to instead request legal separation, it's only due to a legal formality and there's no going back for the singer.

"They're not trying to work it out and get back together," her lawyer Ronald Litz tells PEOPLE. "She's done."

As for why Presley is calling it quits, Litz says it's two-fold, having to do with the couple's finances and their kids. "He apparently was in charge of her assets throughout the marriage and didn't do what he should have done on a fiduciary basis," Litz explains. The couple did not have a prenuptial agreement, though at one point they did draw up a postnuptial agreement. Still, the lawyer claims, "He took advantage of her."

As for the issue over their children, 7-year-old twin daughters Harper Vivienne Ann and Finley Aaron Love, Presley, 48, contends "there are some problems with him being a good father, in terms of what a father is supposed to do," says Litz, adding that her request for full custody seems warranted. "I absolutely believe that what we're asking for is necessary."

Lockwood, 55, did not immediately respond to PEOPLE's request for comment in regards to these claims.

Despite the news of the split, Litz says the couple hasn't actually spoken about the impending divorce. "She doesn't know what his reaction is going to be to this," says the lawyer, adding that it's been "at least a month" since Lockwood moved out of their home and Presley has been unable to locate his new residence in order to serve him.

This is the fourth marriage for rock legend Elvis Presley's daughter. She was previously married to Michael Jackson, Nicolas Cage and Danny Keough, with whom she shares son Ben and daughter, actress Riley Keough.

"It's tough on her, but she's going to get through it," says Litz of the latest split. "There's so much stress and nonsense that goes on during divorce. But she'll be fine ultimately."

http://www.people.com/article/lisa-marie-presley-michael-lockwood-divorce-over-money

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

What on earth was Lisa thinking in letting him control her money??!!!


*facepalm*

She is a fool!!! And if rumors are true her and Lockwood didn't get a prenup she's in deep trouble!

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I can't say I'm surprised that Lockwood turned out to be yet another leech. I don't trust people like him. There were some red flags before but Lisa kept insisting everything is perfect and that they never fight or spend time apart, which itself didn't sound too sincere.

I think Lisa and Lockwood did have a pre-nup, there were stories about that in 2006. She had a pre-nup with her previous ones and I don't see why not with this broke low key musician.

I agree 8701girl that she should have never trusted him that much with her financial management - but this is being said in hindsight. We don't know what the nature of their relationship really was but it's probably never good to mix. I guess she's not that different from Michael, as she keeps trusting people who don't have her best interest in mind. It's so sad to see you can't trust anyone, not even the father of your children.

Thanks respect77 for the article.

Sad to hear that. I hope she can find some happiness again.

In relationships? I wonder if that's possible. I think she's happy being a mother, she always says she is.

 

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I can't say I'm surprised that Lockwood turned out to be yet another leech. I don't trust people like him. There were some red flags before but Lisa kept insisting everything is perfect and that they never fight or spend time apart, which itself didn't sound too sincere.

That and it was always difficult to understand how Lockwood just put up with her gushing publicly over MJ and how she never felt as high as with MJ. I don't know but it must be pretty humiliating for a current husband. I thought he must either really, really love her to put up with this, or he puts up with it because she is wealthy and he likes the benefits of that.

MJ couldn't put up with her hanging out with Danny (understandable in my eyes), but Lockwood was like he was OK with anything and everything. With Danny still hanging around, with Scientology, with LMP still gushing about MJ etc. etc. Either you are an extremely patient and meek guy or something is not totally honest in this IMO.

I think Lisa and Lockwood did have a pre-nup, there were stories about that in 2006. She had a pre-nup with her previous ones and I don't see why not with this broke low key musician.

The article says they didn't have a pre-nup but had a post-nup. So maybe they made the agreement after they got married.

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

So what's the difference between "pre nup" &" post nup"? I'm confused

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

MJ couldn't put up with her hanging out with Danny (understandable in my eyes), but Lockwood was like he was OK with anything and everything. With Danny still hanging around, with Scientology, with LMP still gushing about MJ etc. etc. Either you are an extremely patient and meek guy or something is not totally honest in this IMO.

You know thinking bout it kinda sounds like Lockwood may have been playing her all along...smh you know it wouldn't surprise me if he did. At least Michael was honset bout his feelings with the whole Danny situation heck Lisa said it herself in the 2010 Oprah interview!!


The whole thing is sad when you think bout it

 

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

So what's the difference between "pre nup" &" post nup"? I'm confused

Pre-nup:

A prenuptial agreement, antenuptial agreement, or premarital agreement, commonly abbreviated to prenup or prenupt, is a contract entered into prior to marriage, civil union or any other agreement prior to the main agreement by the people intending to marry or contract with each other.

Post-nup:

A postnuptial agreement is a written contract executed after a couple gets married, or have entered a civil union, to settle the couple's affairs and assets in the event of a separation or divorce.

 

[bluemoon7]

So I know she filed for divorce from MJ and now from Lockwood - did she also file for divorce from N. Cage and D. Keough (meaning: was she the one to leave?)?

That´s very sad then. Very much so for her children. Maybe she is not "made" for marriage but tries again and again ...
(I´m not moralizing, my life planning is so much worse lol)

 

[HIStory]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Lisa Marie Presley My Ex Took a Hunka - Hunk of My Money

Lisa Marie Presley filed for divorce in part because she believes her husband has played fast and loose with her money.

TMZ broke the story, Lisa Marie filed divorce docs Friday to end her 12 year marriage to Michael Lockwood. Her lawyer, Ron Litz, says Michael ran the finances during their marriage and she didn't monitor any of it, including the Elvis money that came in.

We're told when the relationship started getting rocky, she noticed things ... in particular an enormous American Express bill ... more than $109,000. Shortly after she spotted the charge, AmEx sued her.

We're told Lisa Marie's legal team has now opened a forensic audit to determine where all the money went during their marriage.

As we reported, the couple had a postnup. We're told that document makes it clear ... all the Elvis money is hers.

We made several attempts to reach Michael, with no luck.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/06/30/lisa-...-money/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

How naive from Lisa to give him full control over her money and not monitoring it!

So I know she filed for divorce from MJ and now from Lockwood - did she also file for divorce from N. Cage and D. Keough (meaning: was she the one to leave?)?

With Nic Cage he was the one who filed for divorce, I think. With Danny she did as she was about to marry MJ. With MJ she filed but she later said it was more a bluff, she didn't really want to divorce him, just scare him or something. But MJ called her bluff.

 

[bluemoon7]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

"... because she believes her husband has played fast and loose with her money."

You should never believe anything / anybody / in anything when it comes to money.
The only thing to keep your money together is COUNTING it YOURSELF! lol

:2cents:

 

[InvincibleMJ]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

That and it was always difficult to understand how Lockwood just put up with her gushing publicly over MJ and how she never felt as high as with MJ. I don't know but it must be pretty humiliating for a current husband. I thought he must either really, really love her to put up with this, or he puts up with it because she is wealthy and he likes the benefits of that.

MJ couldn't put up with her hanging out with Danny (understandable in my eyes), but Lockwood was like he was OK with anything and everything. With Danny still hanging around, with Scientology, with LMP still gushing about MJ etc. etc. Either you are an extremely patient and meek guy or something is not totally honest in this IMO.

Exactly! That's what I'm talking about. His yes man behavior always looked suspicious and I don't buy this act. He was ok with so many things, other people would have said HELL NO. Including MJ. It was always the bolded part in your post to me. I just don't believe people are simply fine with it.

I think Michael's reaction to these things (Danny, the church) was justified and natural. Now add the way she talked about Michael when she was married to Lockwood. When people are just accepting these things as they are is when you should be worried.

The article says they didn't have a pre-nup but had a post-nup. So maybe they made the agreement after they got married.

I see. It doesn't look that different from what I've seen. Thanks!

 

[8701girl]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Pre-nup:



Post-nup:

Thanks I thought postnup meant like after divorce

 

[8701girl]

So I know she filed for divorce from MJ and now from Lockwood - did she also file for divorce from N. Cage and D. Keough (meaning: was she the one to leave?)?

That´s very sad then. Very much so for her children. Maybe she is not "made" for marriage but tries again and again ...
(I´m not moralizing, my life planning is so much worse lol)

Yes I think she did file for divorce with Danny cuz remember she said in the Oprah interview ".I was torn for breaking up my marriage for Michael"

 

[shimmery]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

I had no clue Danny lived in the pool house when her and michael were married. That is ridiculous. I wouldn't put up with that either.

I wonder if she has ever looked back and thought about that call from Michael (during/after the trial) when she told him she was indifferent and thinks what if?

 

[barbee0715]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Funny in that Oprah 2010 interview she talked About the leeches taking her money, turned it over to her husband and it happened again.
I always assumed he was just unbelievably understanding when she gushed about Michael.

 

[Soundmind]

Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Pictures and Discussion thread 1992-1998 (Hate is not welcome)

Is not it ironic that Pricilla was happy her daughter got with this broke musician, but was warning her that MJ was after her money! It is time for that witch to understand how her I'll advices destroyed her daughter's happiness.