respect77;4163362 said:Rihanna did not need to talk about MJ when she received the award. It was her award, not an award to MJ. Both she and Drake mentioned his name when receiving/giving the award. The only other artists who did before them was Britney in 2011. Others (including Beyoncé) didn't even mention the fact the award was named after him.
The award contains his name so if they didn't mentioned Michael's name while giving/receiving the award, that would've been a totally different problem. He inspired her, she received something related to him, on his birthday and she didn't even take 5 seconds to say a few words for him.
It's threads like this that make people think MJ fans are mental.
I have to kinda agree a bit-save the outrage for something important.Tony R;4163361 said:It's threads like this that make people think MJ fans are mental.
lougrizli;4163421 said:He inspired her, she received something related to him, on his birthday and she didn't even take 5 seconds to say a few words for him.
Pink Diamond Princess;4163422 said:Well she already had to deal with MTV's trashy planned attempt to have Beyonce steal her shine on what was supposed to be her night, so I'm sure that mentioning MJ's influence was the last thing on her mind, and she did mention his name in relation to the award.
Hey!
Any of y'all notice how SOME people on MJJC like to be edgy and criticize the rest of the fanbase?
It wasn't his birthday.
I agree what mtv did was wrong & not required at all. But, ignoring this altogether instead of fighting it out is probably the better option in this case. As they say, adding fuel to the fire makes it even more worse!
indeed. it's fans like that that gives MJ fans a bad name
HIStoric;4163429 said:It wasn't his birthday.
However, it wasn't just Rihanna's night, Beyoncé won 7 awards too so good for her. How exactly do you propose Beyoncé tried to steal Rihanna's shine though? By performing for 15 minutes? Well so did Michael in 1995, on the very same night R.E.M. won the MJ Video Vanguard award. Surely you wouldn't say Michael was trying to steal R.E.M.'s shine...? I mean there's no difference.
^^^^I don't find it disrespectful, but that middle finger was uncalled for.
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This!
If it weren't for that middle finger I wouldn't have been as pissed about it.
Pink Diamond Princess;4163476 said:TBH, yes I DO think it was a set up by MTV for Rihanna's shine to be stolen, and I have many reasons for thinking so that I don't feel like detailing in this thread.
All I have to say though is that Michael and REM is different that Beyonce and Rihanna, the music industry has changed since 1995.
I also don't think that MTV would let Adele get up there and perform almost a whole album on the night of Beyonce winning a big award.
Were going to have to agree to disagree with this one.
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This!
If it weren't for that middle finger I wouldn't have been as pissed about it.
HIStoric;4163484 said:Hahah yes they would, that'd just bring in more viewers which is their ultimate end goal. In fact other big names such as Taylor Swift, Sam Smith, Nicki Minaj, Ariana Grande and Maroon 5 all performed the night Beyoncé won her vanguard. Evidently, MTV would be keen to have big names perform on "Beyonces special night". You sound like some conspiracy theorist who's making up/reading into stuff that isn't really there
Nah, that shit wouldn't happen, and it's not a conspiracy it's stan culture, MTV knew what they were doing and I can't be convinced otherwise.
They played on the Rihanna vs Beyonce thing to bring in views, and on the night when Rihanna was getting the award show's highest honor.
The only way I could see MTV letting Adele perform on the same night as Beyonce winning an award is if Adele was doing a tribute to Beyonce. :yes:
^Stan is basically a word for someone super obsessed with someone. MJ Stan, Beyonce stan, etc. It originated from one of Eminems songs "Stan", which is a fantastic song btw.
Who cares? Seriously who cares? As far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't even be any VMA's anymore. Why is a channel that doesn't even play music videos anymore, have a music video award show?
But thats your fault for reading into all of that! All of that seems so unnecessary (Ive no idea what Stan means and I always see it written)
Mtv give awards to who they want and they book whoever they want to perform! Is it not that simple? Most of the artists dont even care themselves about an Mtv award, its publicity for them, and more exposure.
Any one of those acts would turn in all their prestigious Mtv awards for one of their albums or pieces of work to be deemed "Historically Significant", which Michael Jackson has had happen.
Also, these award shows only reflect the way most of those artists have "beef" and "throwing shade parties" so publicly. It feeds into the culture of people who want to see it. If you are into all of that, then fair enough, but if you buy into all this "beef" culture, then I wouldnt necessarily consider the above even remotely offensive to Michael Jackson. Its the culture of Mtv, reality TV and Pop culture as a whole at the minute. Eg. an embarrassment.