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And you can disagree all you want but it doesn't make telling others how they must feel or how to react right.
Your point was that people are supposedly not allowed to express themselves here. You complain about that by trying to police how others should express themselves.
That's not what I'm saying lol. There's normal expression of opinion, then there's, "your opinion is wrong, I am right" or acting like a negative opinion makes you a "fake fan". I see a lot of that around here . People can act how they want, that won't stop me from saying how I feel about the way they're acting though.
Yes, "you are wrong and I am right" and "fake fan" discussions do happen. Some are called "fake fans" and others are called "mental". Any difference?
People simply discussed the MTV snap chat in this thread - whether you agree with their opinion or the way it was expressed, it was just that before THEY got attacked for expressing an opinion. As you yourself put it it's "just a stupid snap chat". If it is stupid and irrelevant I don't know why people are so invested in trying to tell others how to feel about it. Especially people who then complain about how fans are not allowed to express opinion here. Don't you get the irony in this?
Yes, because getting offended personally and making it your personal mission when someone says something about a celebrity is normal behaviour? Im sorry but I've seen quite a few people who have said they don't like to voice their opinions here because of how people act. Other people do it so it's okay? Nah, it's still unhealthy behaviour Imo, doesn't matter what fanbase is doing it. You seem to have a very level headed perspective, many here don't though.
It's normal behaviour for a certain section of the fanbase, yes. Most fan forums tend to have a few fans like that, usually the younger ones. On MJJC they are hardly the majority though, no matter what our reputation is. Even in this thread, there are many people saying it's not a big deal but you choose to focus on the few who do feel offended and pretend like they represent the whole forum. There are so many great and critical discussions here, I have no idea where your assertion comes from that many fans here are not level-headed. That's not my experience at all.
who the hell are you to judge what's "normal behavior"?. yes, some people are more emotional than others when it comes to their idols. maybe that's just who they are as a person in general. some people are more emotional than others. it doesn't make them any less of a normal fan than youYes, because getting offended personally and making it your personal mission when someone says something about a celebrity is normal behaviour?
It's not normal though, is what I'm saying, just because it's normal to someone somewhere doesn't make it okay. You've had a different experience to me and others I know then, there's enough people like that here to make it a problem. I'm pretty much done with this discussion now anyway, I think I've said enough today lol. I'm sure everyone on this site has been annoyed by my posting
Fake fans, mental, weird, or stupid... IDK but you're all homo sapiens in my book!
It's nice to know you let the fact you're an MJ fan destroy your other musical interests. Anyway, I'll stop posting in this thread for a while, I think I've said enough.
I also see that some people in here have turned into arm chair psychiatrist talking about what is and what isn't "normal behavior." :rofl:
I guess it just doesn't bother me that much. If I think someone is overreacting, I just move on to the next post. The behaviour you mentioned earlier (calling someone a "fake fan" and such) is against forum rules so if you see that happening, you could just report it to the moderators. Overall I think MJJC is a pretty good forum though with a lot of intelligent and reasonable posters. I joined a few years ago and there were more 'new fans' back then who were more emotional but most of them left by now. But I'm ready to end this discussion too, lol
I know you're talking about me, maybe you should quote me and stop making these "I see" posts. Very childish.
I can quote you or not quote you, and YOU can't do a thing about it.
I'm also glad that you realize that you are indeed an arm chair psychiatrist.
You trying to tell people how act, and saying that people who act differently then you think they should aren't acting normal is childish AND foolish behavior.
Okay, I'm done too.I've done nothing but state my opinion. I see you respond with yet another childish post. :/. I think I'm done.
I've done nothing but state my opinion.
Okay, I'm done too.
Have fun being the real childish one by crying about opinions you don't like though.
I for one happen to love MJJC and the environment it provides. :yes:
I find that most people that are "scared" to express their opinions on here actually just want to bash Michael and not be reprimanded.:yes:
There are plenty of fourms for that though such as LSA, MaxJax, etc, all of which I personally consider trash compared to MJJC (even out of comparison to MJJC I consider those websites trash TBH).
your opinion is very judgmental
your opinion is very judgmental
And imposing, telling the people he disagrees with what to do.
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Also, these award shows only reflect the way most of those artists have "beef" and "throwing shade parties" so publicly. It feeds into the culture of people who want to see it. If you are into all of that, then fair enough, but if you buy into all this "beef" culture, then I wouldnt necessarily consider the above even remotely offensive to Michael Jackson. Its the culture of Mtv, reality TV and Pop culture as a whole at the minute. Eg. an embarrassment.
Think you hit the nail on the head with this description. I understand the audience is tweens, teens, and people in their 20's who watch the channel and use Twitter, snapchat and instagram at the same time. They thrive on being "edgy."
Think the middle finger thing was totally uncalled for, but then again, I thought the BET slam at Madonna after the Prince Tribute at the Billboard awards was just as bad. I was pretty put off by that, and it was also uncalled for to attack a woman who was a colleague, friend, and co-icon in the pop music world. This is from someone who isn't a fan of Prince or Madonna, but I CERTAINLY see their iconic status in pop music history.
So off topic, but I kept seeing the word "stan" too-and I had no idea what that meant-but got from the context that it meant a hysterical, obsessed fan. Finally, a few months ago, someone mentioned the Eminem video-and I pulled it up on YouTube. I don't care for rap-but this video and song was something-really, really scary and makes you wonder how awful it is to have obsessed fans-it was great, I don't mind saying. You ought to watch it. Hope it won a few VMAs in its day.
And yes, the only other vid I've seen of his, is the one where he makes fun of Michael-after Michael talked about it on a radio show-so I'm not impressed with him as a person, but this was pretty brilliant.
I just pulled up and listened to this. Have to ask is this for real-that's one of the worst things I've ever heard. Really pitiful-can't believe he has ANY fans, much less stans. LOL.I don't care how many black people he worked with, if he was "young and dumb", or whether or not he gave an apology, this is not okay and no one can convince me it is.
Not only is it racist but it's misogynistic too.
The song starts off innocent enough but then the misogynoir comes in full tilt.
I just don't want y'all thinking I'm calling him trash for no reason.