Latest on MJJC

Preliminary Hearing 7/1/11 Day Four. Discussion thread

ivy

Proud Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2009
Messages
16,074
Points
0
Location
USA
Please remember that these discussion threads are for the court proceedings for the day. Stay on topic. Remain respectful.

We are all here for justice for Michael.
 
detective from yesterday continues his testimony about the phone calls
 
AP news update about yesterday

ER doc: Jackson dead long before hospital arrival

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Before paramedics wheeled Michael Jackson into the emergency room, Dr. Richelle Cooper was sure he was dead.

More than an hour of resuscitation efforts at the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center didn't change her opinion — the King of Pop had died in the bedroom of his rented mansion.

Based on what Jackson's personal physician told her, though, she didn't quite know why.
Murray told her he had seen Jackson stop breathing and immediately started CPR, but prosecutors say that's not what happened. Instead, over three days and a dozen witnesses at a preliminary hearing, they have put forth a timeline in which Jackson died in the bedroom of his rented mansion and Murray delayed calling 911 to conceal his actions.

Cooper testified she authorized paramedics to pronounce Jackson dead at 12:57 p.m., but they declined at Murray's request and because of the singer's celebrity. After an ambulance ride trailed by paparazzi and more than an hour of efforts in the ER, Cooper officially pronounced Jackson dead at 2:26 p.m. on June 25, 2009.

She said that Murray never told her he had given Jackson the anesthetic propofol, which Cooper said she typically uses in the ER for patients with head trauma or serious injuries.
The Houston-based cardiologist charged in Jackson's death also didn't mention several other sedatives he administered, which Cooper said could have amplified the propofol's effects and caused Jackson to stop breathing before his heart stopped beating.

The testimony came during a multi-day preliminary hearing in which a judge will decide whether there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial on an involuntary manslaughter charge. Murray, who has pleaded not guilty, faces up to four years in prison if convicted.

With Cooper and another UCLA doctor, prosecutors have elicited testimony from five witnesses who said Murray either never mentioned the all the drugs he had given Jackson, or tried to conceal them.

Paramedic Martin Blount, who also testified Thursday, said he saw Murray scoop up three vials of the painkiller lidocaine from the floor of Jackson's bedroom during resuscitation efforts. Blount said he was surprised to see the medications because Murray had told him that he hadn't given the singer any drugs.

Murray's attorney, Joseph Low IV, did not even question Blount's description of the lidocaine, although another defense attorney pointedly questioned the UCLA doctors about whether candid disclosures from the doctor would have saved Jackson.

Cooper said while it wouldn't have changed her efforts to revive Jackson, knowing that Murray had given the singer several sedatives and propofol would have added to her understanding of why the singer had died.

"I would be concerned particularly if there were other medications given, that it would lead to a respiratory arrest, which would lead to a cardiac arrest," Cooper said.

Nicole Alvarez, a girlfriend Murray called while riding in the ambulance to UCLA, has been ordered to appear in court on Friday. The hearing will also feature detectives, coroner's officials and experts on propofol's effects in the coming days.

Before the hearing is over, a judge may hear Murray's version of events as well, as he relayed them to police detectives three days after Jackson's death.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren has said he will use Murray's statements and testimony to show that the 57-year-old's actions represented "an extreme deviation from the standard of care."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...2P8gRA?docId=6dd69b2e8bdb4280b46101f73e2f356d
 
Before the hearing is over, a judge may hear Murray's version of events as well, as he relayed them to police detectives three days after Jackson's death.
Click to expand...
interesting.
 
CNN In Session

Katherine, Joe, and Latoya Jackson are all present.
 
Nicole Alvarez is up.

MJJC Twitter:

Alverez summoned to judges office this morning, alverez said to be being uncooperative in court.
 
I'm hearing the attorneys aren't getting along. judge called break.
Murrys girlfriend hasn't testified ?? she's a cocktail waitress.
 
From MJJC twitter

Alverez summoned to judges office this morning, alverez said to be being uncooperative in court

looks like Alverez will be taking the stand today.

Nicole Alvarez.

Court on a 15 minute break after a 15 minute, it seems the attorneys are having issues with each other

next witness it a girl called sadeh who is apparently Murrays other girlfriend in huston

Testifying she was on phone with murray and at one point she realised murray had gone, and was saying hello hello

she was then said to be trying to call and text but never again made contact murray

court now in 15 minute recession after only 5 MINUTES of testimony due to attorneys angry at each other.

next witness up is another person who again is said to be another girlfriend who is a cocktail waitress

more to come soon, but very little happened due to lack of testimony and lots of objections and questions not fitting to the defence.
 
did anybody listen to the ustream? what did erin say? I missed it :(
 
souldreamer7 said:
I'm hearing the attorneys aren't getting along. judge called break.
Murrys girlfriend testified ??
Click to expand...

Yeah, listening to UStream, sound is not very good, but it sounds like that this was his "other" girlfriend. And if I heard right, she is from Houston/Texas and he spoke to her on the phone at about 10.30 am for 5 minutes and then just he stopped talking and she heard commotion and mumbling. Hung up and tried to call him again several times and texted him, but never heard from him again, apart from a couple of days later when LAPD was at her house, she called him and he just said something like ... I'm very sorry about everything and don't talk to the police. Never heard from him again.

Don't quote me on any of that, I might not have heard everything or might have gotten something wrong. I also missed the beginning because I had to reload the UStream page.
 
ScrEAm.Jack5on said:
From MJJC twitter

Alverez summoned to judges office this morning, alverez said to be being uncooperative in court

looks like Alverez will be taking the stand today.

Nicole Alvarez.

Court on a 15 minute break after a 15 minute, it seems the attorneys are having issues with each other

next witness it a girl called sadeh who is apparently Murrays other girlfriend in huston

Testifying she was on phone with murray and at one point she realised murray had gone, and was saying hello hello

she was then said to be trying to call and text but never again made contact murray

court now in 15 minute recession after only 5 MINUTES of testimony due to attorneys angry at each other.

next witness up is another person who again is said to be another girlfriend who is a cocktail waitress

more to come soon, but very little happened due to lack of testimony and lots of objections and questions not fitting to the defence.
Click to expand...

So we got 3 girlfriends of Murray's in court today? Did I count that right?? Or is the third listed actually the first?? It's like an orchestra, or something.
 
JMie said:
did anybody listen to the ustream? what did erin say? I missed it :(
Click to expand...

she said that she didn't know why but the attns arent getting along judge called early break.

murray had a g/f #1 she's a cocktail waitress

g/f #2 nicole is being diffcult.
click ustream now doing recap now
 
Pace said:
So we got 3 girlfriends of Murray's in court today? Did I count that right??
Click to expand...

No, from what I heard on UStream, they just don't know who the next witness is, another woman with the first name Bridgett (sp?). I think they were just wondering on UStream if that's another girlfriend.

Wonder if his "real" girlfriend knew about the cocktail waitress from Houston, maybe not? Then she might just tell the truth after finding out that she wasn't the only one.
 
Milka said:
No, from what I heard on UStream, they just don't know who the next witness is, another woman with the first name Bridgett (sp?). I think they were just wondering on UStream if that's another girlfriend.

Wonder if his "real" girlfriend knew about the cocktail waitress from Houston, maybe not? Then she might just tell the truth after finding out that she wasn't the only one.
Click to expand...

Ah okay, but there are 3 women.

Yeah, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...
 
Milka said:
No, from what I heard on UStream, they just don't know who the next witness is, another woman with the first name Bridgett (sp?). I think they were just wondering on UStream if that's another girlfriend.

Wonder if his "real" girlfriend knew about the cocktail waitress from Houston, maybe not? Then she might just tell the truth after finding out that she wasn't the only one.
Click to expand...

:yes: Okay edit for last time to my First answer Yes they was a 3rd woman.
 
Last edited:
Saday Andie on the stand. testified that she got a call from Murray, basically chit-chatted for a few minutes, then she heard Murray's other phone go off. Murray stopped talking, she then only heard mumbling and got no more responses. She called Murray back but got no response.

She spoke to Murray later when police came to her house. Murray said sorry I put you int his position, please talk to my attorney after you spoke to the police.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top