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Does anyone know the real story behind the song crack kills that was supposedly made for Bad with Run DMC but didnt make the final cut. I heard/read somewhere that they had creative diffrences and that they didnt get along or something along those lines.

Does anyone know the real story behind this collaboration?
 
Michael wanted to work with them. They didn't want to work with Michael. So the song is probably unfinished.
 
Do we know the exact dates of when Run DMC and MJ have met? It's reported they've met twice during the Bad sessions.

First meeting has to be before December 1986 as there was an article about their meeting printed in Rolling Stone magazine (early Dec '86)


www.rollingstone.com

Run-D.M.C. Is Beating the Rap

Three kids from Queens are 'Raising Hell' at their shows. Run-D.M.C. set the record straight on rap music and violence
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OnirMJ said:
Michael wanted to work with them. They didn't want to work with Michael. So the song is probably unfinished.
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Quincy Jones stated that Run-DMC showed up at Westlake Studios several times, but Michael Jackson was rather sceptical of including rap songs on the 'BAD' album.

Lyrically, 'Crack Kills' is said to have 2 verses.
 
Joe Vogel states in his book, lead vocals were recorded at Westlake in 11/86.

Although not directly connected, Run DMC's demo called "Crack" has been recorded on 11/30/86.

This is from the reissue of "Tougher than Leather":
When the reel was found for this demo it said "Crack (For Michael Jackson)" on the box, but according to Run the track was never intended for MJ.
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Fuzball said:
Joe Vogel states in his book, lead vocals were recorded at Westlake in 11/86.

Although not directly connected, Run DMC's demo called "Crack" has been recorded on 11/30/86.

This is from the reissue of "Tougher than Leather":

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I say slap em together anyway and see how it flows. I can't imagine anything else fitting.
 
mj_frenzy said:
Quincy Jones stated that Run-DMC showed up at Westlake Studios several times, but Michael Jackson was rather sceptical of including rap songs on the 'BAD' album.

Lyrically, 'Crack Kills' is said to have 2 verses.
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BlackAnon said:
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Crack kills your mother,
Your father
Your sister
Your little brother
Crack kills
The baby, it's shady
Not maybe
It's such a loser
Crack kills the winner
The sinner
By games
It's such a trader
It's this to take you
In how far
And you all know
Who you are
Crack kills

Turning the page sideways:

I live in fear cause she's (or he's) not thirwih (?)
When steel out on the
I'm left here all alone maybe she
--
With some other man i (?)
This love killing me
 
I wonder if Mike took some of the ideas or at least the concept behind Crack Kills and turned it into Throwin' Your Life Away a few years later.

It would make sense since TYLA is all about the "Just Say No" movement that was so popular in the eighties.
 
applešŸŽ said:
Turning the page sideways:

I live in fear cause she's (or he's) not thirwih (?)
When steel out on the
I'm left here all alone maybe she
--
With some other man i (?)
This love killing me
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I live in fear cause she's not this ??well/with??
when she's out on the
I'm left here all alone maybe she's
with some other man
this love killing me


OTHER PAGE

1. VERSE
Time
Mind
Be
See
Pay
Microphone

2.VERSE
Time
Mind
On
Phone
Skip some
World
Boy
Girl
Find

*rotate sheet counter clockwise*
With World
Girl
Did you face
Skip today

*rotate sheet counter clockwise again*
Killing
Can't you
See
 
Fuzball said:
I live in fear cause she's not this ??well/with??
when she's out on the
I'm left here all alone maybe she's
with some other man
this love killing me


OTHER PAGE

1. VERSE
Time
Mind
Be
See
Pay
Microphone

2.VERSE
Time
Mind
On
Phone
Skip some
World
Boy
Girl
Find

*rotate sheet counter clockwise*
With World
Girl
Did you face
Skip today

*rotate sheet counter clockwise again*
Killing
Can't you
See
Click to expand...

I think MJ raps his verses the same way he did on Why You Wanna Trip or Tabloid Junkie
 
applešŸŽ said:
Crack kills your mother,
Your father
Your sister
Your little brother
Crack kills
The baby, it's shady
Not maybe
It's such a loser
Crack kills the winner
The sinner
By games
It's such a trader
It's this to take you
In how far
And you all know
Who you are
Crack kills
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I can really envision Michael singing/rapping to Crack by Run D.M.C. You can't tell me they don't fit well.
 
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