Universal would be fantastic for Michael's projects, not sure about the music side though.. but still, a collectors label would be my choice... anyone got a spare billion? haha
ivy;4110730 said:Can Universal buy it though? There are antitrust laws in USA (and Europe) that doesn't allow monopolies. Both Sony/ATV and Universal has around 22% Market share. EMI is around 10% and warner is about 14% and the remaining is independents. If Sony sells both their shares in ATV an EMI, Universal might not be able to buy those due to antitrust laws.
edited to add: From billboard article - Sony Corp. and Jackson’s estate also own a combined 39.8 percent -- 29.8 percentage points by the former and almost 10 percentage points by the latter -- of EMI Music Publishing, thanks to a consortium put together by then-Sony Corp. of America CFO Rob Wiesenthal.
So Sony owns almost 30% of EMI while Estate owns 10% of EMI. Given EMI has 10% market share, Sony's share of EMI is 3% of the whole market. Sony's ATV share is 11% of the market. so 14% of market. Universal already has 22% of the market, buying Sony's shares would put them at 36% - which might not be approved due to antitrust laws. Of course Universal can always arrange a consortium and buy some but all the shares.
<header class="standard-image-lede standard-lede lede"> Sony Planned to Sell Music-Publishing Unit Owning Beatles
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<section class="article-body" itemprop="articleBody"> (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp. was considering the sale of its music-publishing business, including a partnership with Michael Jackson’s estate that owns the Beatles catalog, as recently as last month, e-mails released by hackers show.
The “top secret” plan was being handled in the U.S. by Sony Entertainment Chief Executive Officer Michael Lynton, Sony Corp. of America President Nicole Seligman and their U.S. Chief Financial Officer Steve Kober, according to a Nov. 21 e-mail from Kober. The company had concluded the business had few growth prospects.
Top management at Tokyo-based Sony was concerned about the complex ownership and governance of the business, whose owners also include billionaire David Geffen and Abu Dhabi investors. Details of the sale plan, including possible terms or suitors, couldn’t be determined. The documents were released as part of the cyber-attack on Sony over the movie “The Interview.”
Katie Schroeder, a spokeswoman for Sony at Rubenstein Communications, declined to comment.
Shares of Sony surged 4 percent to 2,568.5 yen in Tokyo, extending this year’s gain to 41 percent.
Publishing accounts for 14 percent of Sony’s music revenue, the main part being recorded music. Sony Corp.’s Chief Financial Officer Kenichiro Yoshida raised questions about the future of music publishing in an Oct. 3 e-mail to his boss, CEO Kazuo Hirai, and Lynton, in a prelude to a meeting of the three, according to messages released by the hackers.
Sony Deliberations
“I’d like to hear your thoughts on the Music Publishing business, which has a rather complex capital and governance structure and is impacted by the market shift to streaming,” Yoshida wrote in the message.
Sony’s deliberations on the publishing business were included in a planning document sent to at least half a dozen Sony executives, according to the Nov. 21 e-mail. That included a presentation that outlined they were considering the sale.
“We are very surprised that the attached listing includes the comment about the sale of Sony/ATV,” Kober wrote. “As you know quite well, this is a top-secret project that is being handled by me working directly with Michael and Nicole.”
The publishing division includes Sony/ATV Music Publishing and EMI Music Publishing.
Music Mergers
Sony/ATV was established in 1995 as a joint venture between Sony and Jackson, who had acquired ATV 10 years earlier. Former Beatle Paul McCartney had also tried to purchase the catalog.
In 2012, Sony paid $2.2 billion for the larger EMI Music Publishing, along with investors including Jackson’s estate, Blackstone Group’s GSO Capital Partners LP, Geffen and Mubadala Development Co. owned by the Abu Dhabi government. Sony/ATV administers EMI on behalf of the investors. Messages left for Geffen, Mubadala and Blackstone weren’t returned.
Music publishers collect royalties from album sales, use on TV and other performances. The combined Sony publishing business represents stars from Bruce Springsteen to Lady Gaga and more than 2 million songs, including “New York, New York,” “Jailhouse Rock” and “I Heard It Through the Grapevine.”
The Japanese company and Jackson’s estate each own half of Sony/ATV, which owns more than 750,000 songs, according to a press release from 2012. EMI Music Publishing, in which Sony holds a 30 percent stake, has 1.3 million songs in its catalog.
Together, Sony/ATV and EMI represent the world’s biggest music publishing business, with Sony estimating a global market share of more than 30 percent.
The music publishing business generates about $500 million in annual revenue and $100 million in operating profit, according to a mid-range plan of Sony’s music business in October that was released by the hackers.
Publishing Growth
Sony’s music-publishing business will probably see sales rise 13 percent over three years to $617 million by fiscal year 2018, according to the mid-range plan circulated internally. Operating profit may rise 23 percent to $123 million during that period.
The e-mails were released as part of a devastating hack on Sony that the FBI said was committed by North Korea over the Hollywood studio’s plan to release the satirical movie “The Interview,” about an assassination plot against the nation’s leader, Kim Jong Un.
To contact the reporters on this story: Lucas Shaw in Los Angeles at lshaw31@bloomberg.net; Christopher Palmeri in Los Angeles at cpalmeri1@bloomberg.net
To contact the editors responsible for this story: Young-Sam Cho at ycho2@bloomberg.net Rob Golum, Terje Langeland
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<header class="standard-image-lede standard-lede lede"> Sony Has No Plans to Sell Music Publishing Business, Lynton Says
Lucas Shaw and Anousha Sakoui
<time class="published-at time-based" datetime="2015-01-10T20:32:33.602Z" itemprop="datePublished">January 10, 2015 — 9:32 PM CET</time>
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<figcaption class="inline-media__info"> In an Jan. 8 interview, Sony Entertainment Chief Executive Officer Michael Lynton said a sale of the music publishing business that controls rights to songs from the Beatles and Taylor Swift isn’t under consideration. Photographer: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg
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Sony Corp. has no plans to sell the music publishing business that controls rights to songs from the Beatles and Taylor Swift, as was suggested by leaked e-mails, Sony Entertainment Chief Executive Officer Michael Lynton said.
Sony’s music-publishing business, the largest in the world, has a catalog of more than 2 million songs. Music publishers collect songwriting royalties from album sales, use on TV and other performances.
E-mails and documents released in the cyber-attack on Sony mentioned a “top secret” plan to sell the music publishing business because it had few growth prospects, Bloomberg News reported last month. Top management at Tokyo-based Sony was concerned about the complex ownership and governance of the business.
In an Jan. 8 interview, Lynton said a sale isn’t under consideration.
Music publishing accounts for 14 percent of Sony’s music revenue, with recorded music generating the larger part. The business includes Sony/ATV Music Publishing, a joint venture with the estate of Michael Jackson, and EMI Music Publishing, in which Sony has a 30 percent stake.
Sony/ATV CEO Martin Bandier said in a memo to staff on Jan. 9 that he’s been advised by Sony Corp. that the venture isn’t for sale, the New York Post reported.
Sony/ATV was established in 1995 in partnership with Jackson, who had acquired rights to the Beatles songs a decade earlier.
Sony’s Partners
In 2012, Sony paid $2.2 billion for the larger EMI Music Publishing, along with investors including Jackson’s estate, Blackstone Group’s GSO Capital Partners LP, entertainment mogul David Geffen and Mubadala Development Co., owned by the Abu Dhabi government. Sony/ATV administers EMI on behalf of the investors.
The combined Sony publishing business represents stars from Bruce Springsteen to Lady Gaga and songs including “New York, New York,” “Jailhouse Rock” and “I Heard It Through the Grapevine.”
Sony and Jackson’s estate each own half of Sony/ATV, which contains more than 750,000 songs, according to a 2012 press release. EMI Music Publishing has 1.3 million songs in its catalog.
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Sony Corp. and Jackson’s estate also own a combined 39.8 percent -- 29.8 percentage points by the former and almost 10 percentage points by the latter -- of EMI Music Publishing, thanks to a consortium put together by then-Sony Corp. of America CFO Rob Wiesenthal. That consortium -- which also consists of Mubadala Development, Jynwel Capital Ltd., the Blackstone Group's GSO Partners and David Geffen -- paid $2.2 billion in June 2012 for EMI's publishing catalog. EMI Music Publishing itself generates about $750 million in annual revenue.
That's mean the estate forked $ 220 million for their share. This is an indication the estate in a very good financial position else they would not have invested such amount. Moreover, it seems this kind of business is considered good to them. The estate did not have really to be part of the consortium given the debts.
marc_vivien;4110745 said:LYNTON'S BUY/SELL CONFIRMATION MEMO
In an apparent effort to calm nerves frazzled by a 10/7 WSJ report on the possible sale of Sony/ATV, Sony Entertainment CEO Michael Lynton sent an email to the pubco’s staff just as the story was breaking confirming that Sony had initiated the buy/sell process with the Michael Jackson estate and explaining how it might proceed. We’ve obtained that memo; what follows is the complete text.
Dear Sony/ATV Colleagues,
Sony Corporation of America and the Estate of Michael Jackson have begun what is known as a buy/sell process, in which each will have the opportunity to buy the other’s half, or sell its half, of Sony/ATV Music Publishing.
As you know, Sony/ATV is a joint venture between Sony and the Estate of Michael Jackson and operates based on a joint venture agreement. The joint venture agreement lays out procedures for the buy/sell process. Sony considers that now is an appropriate time to review our ownership status and thus has decided to begin this process. We will decide our next steps, based on a number of factors, as this process advances.
The music publishing business has been a stable profit contributor for its partners, and we highly regard the company, its leadership and personnel, and its performance. I strongly believe that, whoever ultimately ends up owning the company, Sony/ATV will remain a great business and a leader in music publishing for many years to come.
This process has just now begun, and as noted our next steps will be based on a number of different factors. For now, I ask that you proceed with business as usual, stay focused on your work, and continue to build on Sony/ATV’s terrific legacy and success.
Michael Lynton
http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=297998
KOPV;4110750 said:You know Ivy that's a good question, I am in no way a legal expert and if there is one here please chime in...
I am not an expert; however, a monopoly does not occur with a possible 36% share. I cannot remember off hand but, I believe a monopoly occurs within the U.S. at a share greater than 75%.
which is my point. Why would they do that unless they consider it a very decent investment. The press made it seem that MJ's share in Sony/ ATV was not worth more than $ 200 millions. Now they are talking about billions and hundred of millions in a new investment. Frankly speaking I believe investing the revenues of the cataloges in long term investments like the EMI, is much better for the kids' future than distributing it to the "beneficiaries"; the Jacksons ultimate dream.
so this has nothing to do with Michael Jackson's future releases? great. moving on lol
Bubs;4110869 said:For example, Pharrell Williams’s “Happy”, the biggest-selling song of 2014 — and published by Sony/ATV — was played 105m times on Pandora, the streaming radio service, in the first half of 2014. But the track generated royalties of only $6,300 to be shared between songwriter and publisher.
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Zakk;4110837 said:if they take full control of Sony/ATV then their would be less obsticles in the way to utilize a different record label, or would Sony still own a portion after December 2017?
jaydom7;4110877 said:can anyone get in touch with John Branca to get a statement from him? He better not sell MJ's and the kids stake in this.
can anyone get in touch with John Branca to get a statement from him? He better not sell MJ's and the kids stake in this.
I really am very curious what this will mean after the current set projects that are contracted..
Sony has set off a so-called buy-sell clause in its contract with the Jackson estate that would allow either partner to acquire the half it does not already own,
Apparently this is what buy-sell clause mean. Either the estate buys or sells. Still, it might not be that simple.
A buy–sell agreement consists of several legally binding clauses in a business partnership or operating agreement or a separate, freestanding agreement, and controls the following business decisions:
- Who can buy a departing partner's or shareholder's share of the business (this may include outsiders or be limited to other partners/shareholders);
- What events will trigger a buyout, (the most common events that trigger a buyout are: death, disability, retirement, or an owner leaving the company) and;
Buy–sell agreement can be in the form of a cross-purchase plan or a repurchase (entity or stock-redemption) plan. For greater neutrality and effectiveness of the buy–sell arrangement, the service of a corporate trustee is recommended.
- What price will be paid for a partner's or shareholder's interest in the partnership and so on.
Example: You and your partner Joe run a hotdog stand as 50/50 partners. You might have a written agreement or a mere handshake. Joe dies. Do you still have a business? Is Joe’s wife or child your new partner? Do you have the right or the obligation to buy them out? If so, for how much and on what terms? Can you strike out on your own with your own hotdog stand, or are you stuck with the baggage of the old one? What if you die instead of Joe?
As this example shows, the most basic business can benefit from a buy-sell, even if it’s the only written document the business has. Disputes and confusion can result without one even in a small business, and the stakes go up with larger and more complex businesses. You can have a buy-sell agreement with two owners or with many. Suppose you have 10 owners in a family company and someone tries to transfer their shares to a competitor? Such events are easy to prevent with a buy-sell but very expensive otherwise.
A shotgun clause is a term of art, rather than a legal term. It is a specific type of exit provision that may be included in a shareholders' agreement, and may often be referred to as a buy-sell agreement. The shotgun clause allows a shareholder to offer a specific price per share for the other shareholder(s)’ shares; the other shareholder(s) must then either accept the offer or buy the offering shareholder’s shares at that price per share.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_clause
It depends on the provisions. Some buy-sell agreements provide for one party to force the other to either buy or sell.
The right of first offer is it really news? The articles are talking about something very recent, something significant which Sony managed to get only a month a go. I don't know but logically speaking the right of first offer should have been in place for decades not years between MJ and Sony.