These photo's are further proof that Michael was not using needles.

It could just be from vitilgo...but I'm no expert.

You`re no expert, but you ARE right...

People should compare this with some of the unofficial Black or White -era photo`s where you can see that part of his chest...he has discolourisation there..plus a few chest hairs, lol..
 
Yes. He was painfully thin and I think that is also because of the loss of muscles.

People loose muscles usually when you DO NOT EAT enough. The body needs protein, so if you don't deliver it, the body takes it from the muscles.
btw your body also do not spend calories on warming you, that's why people when loosing weight are feeling far colder than others (here we had Michael wearing multiple clothes during rehersals)

Also, if you do not eat to the point that your muscles are "eaten" by your body, I think also your skin gets fragile and you get bruises more easily (to this I am not sure).
But this bruise on Michael's chest is more than this - this is really strange.

You make a lot of sense.
 
You`re no expert, but you ARE right...

People should compare this with some of the unofficial Black or White -era photo`s where you can see that part of his chest...he has discolourisation there..plus a few chest hairs, lol..

yes ,that's true.
 
We are very familiar with Michael's vitiligo marks. They are tan, or light tan, in color, and irregularly shaped. Especially visible on some photos from TDCAU, on his chest and arms, before the images were retouched. I'm sure there are Youtubes about this. The marks on his chest in the photo above are entirely different. They are dark, like a bluish purple. They are bruises, and could be due to being malnourished.
 
He was dying in front of their eyes, and they did nothing, absolutly nothing to rescue him. Why? Because he was stubborn? No sens, It's so hard to understand
 
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:cry: omg i miss michael so much
7 months on and it hasn't got any easier for me
what did they do to you michael :(
this feels like a nightmare still
 
It hasn't gotten easier, for ONE second. What makes it even worse is that I truly think he was murdered, intentionally, and it looks like "they" are going to get away with it. I'm trying to figure out a way to be at peace with that, when it happens? (no luck, yet).

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Could those marks have been reflections from that shiny thing being held up around him? The yellow marks are and there are some more purplish marks on his skin too, eg to the right of the beads.
 
I know that if I make the picture large..I can see Michael's veins on his chest...almost like the spider veins..his skin looks incredibly translucent.....IDK if that to is from the vertiligo.....I also see tannish marks on his jaw and face...maybe vertiligo ??.....I also Do see some spots that I WOULD call bruising on his chest area

EDIT.....I just feel terrible picking Michael apart like this.....I think he is beautiful no matter what....I just wish they would of helped him while they had a chance instead of killing him..:(
 
I know that if I make the picture large..I can see Michael's veins on his chest...almost like the spider veins..his skin looks incredibly translucent.....IDK if that to is from the vertiligo.....I also see tannish marks on his jaw and face...maybe vertiligo ??.....I also Do see some spots that I WOULD call bruising on his chest area

EDIT.....I just feel terrible picking Michael apart like this.....I think he is beautiful no matter what....I just wish they would of helped him while they had a chance instead of killing him..:(

Oh, I understand. I think Michael was absolutely beautiful in all eras of his life, and I'm so sorry for what he suffered. All of it.

Yeah, his skin is translucent, and I can see what look to be veins on his chest. A person would have to be extremely thin for us to be able to see that. But there is also what looks like a bruise. Maybe he was so malnourished he bruised easily? We don't know what his circumstances at home were like, but OMG, I hope no one was hurting him? This is just too sad. . . . .
 
The purple, black and yellow colors are that of a bruise, not the brown and white colors from vitiligo.

There are many sicknesses that can give you bruises on your body. Not eating certainly doesnt helo.
 
The purple, black and yellow colors are that of a bruise, not the brown and white colors from vitiligo.

There are many sicknesses that can give you bruises on your body. Not eating certainly doesnt helo.

I agree. I think the point is, it's painfully obvious that Michael did not have "the body of an astronaut," and that those connected with AEG are LYING about his wonderful health. I think they knew, for certain, that he'd not be able to do the concerts. A cancellation would have been financially devastating. They came up with a solution. . . . . . in my opinion. He was not paying his own Security staff (or doctor) and for that reason probably could not give them "orders." or even fire them or make them go away. (Even as he couldn't make Tohme really go away.) Security was tripled right before he died. To keep him IN? They might not have known he'd be killled. . . . don't know.

If it's this obvious, it must also be this obvious to the LAPD. So either they've been bought off and there will be no justice, or they haven't. . and there will be. I wish I had more hope, but I really don't at this point. Sorry. . . .
 
It is just so sad having to see poor Michael like that...it has been bringing me to tears lately...It is so obvious he just wasn't eating...very little if at all.....in the TII clips I BELIEVE that they make it a POINT to show Michael eating.....They knew he was dangerously thin......the stuff that was being done to Michael was happening IN THAT HOUSE.....Poisoned...maybe drugged so that he had no appetite,,,IDK,,,and I wish I did...it is terrible to see those bruises on his body ..he didn't deserve any of this.
 
Maybe he got injured during the rehearsals? Looking at the pictures it's VERY hard to believe that he weighed 136 lbs :scratch:.
 
Maybe he got injured during the rehearsals? Looking at the pictures it's VERY hard to believe that he weighed 136 lbs :scratch:.

That could be it? Injured during rehearsals? Right. I can't imagine he weighed 136. Maybe that initial report of 108 was correct? We've never had any specifics, except for that very brief tox-report. This is incredibly stressful! :ph34r:
 
I agree. I think the point is, it's painfully obvious that Michael did not have "the body of an astronaut," and that those connected with AEG are LYING about his wonderful health. I think they knew, for certain, that he'd not be able to do the concerts. A cancellation would have been financially devastating. They came up with a solution. . . . . . in my opinion. He was not paying his own Security staff (or doctor) and for that reason probably could not give them "orders." or even fire them or make them go away. (Even as he couldn't make Tohme really go away.) Security was tripled right before he died. To keep him IN? They might not have known he'd be killled. . . . don't know.

If it's this obvious, it must also be this obvious to the LAPD. So either they've been bought off and there will be no justice, or they haven't. . and there will be. I wish I had more hope, but I really don't at this point. Sorry. . . .

I agree, it just makes my heart ache seeing these pictures of Michael and then remembering stupid Randy Phillips saying that "if he could he would switch bodies with Michael, since Michael was so 'healthy' and had a body like an astronaut." :smilerolleyes:

I just hate this! Why didn't they do anything? Why was Michael eating so "healthy" when he needed to gain weight. I should have went there and took him to KFC every night, just so he would gain a little weight. But then we don't know if Murray or whoever possibly Tohme? was maybe giving Mike that ephedra? or w.e it's called I get the names mixed up. But since that drug makes you lose weight? We just don't know, and I hate that we don't know.

Clearly the people at AEG are lying. How could they say Michael was healthy? Especially when he clearly doesn't look healthy? And then you have some people who "believe" what they say. :doh: I don't know, I'm feeling the same as you Vic, I just don't have that much hope anymore. I wish I did, but I don't. :(
 
I heard the story that MJ supposedly was getting the needles in his butt or thigh.

Why does MJ look like his chest is bruised? Same with the left side of his face:

I noticed that, about the bruising. Especially on his chest. What IS that? What could that possibly be from? If you enlarge the photo, it's even more obvious. That is NOT a shadow. Looks like a purple bruise. . . but. . from what?

Demerol is given in the butt or thigh, unless it's to the level where it's being injected intravenously. So. . . don't know.

I personally thought that the on the chest was just chest hair. I posted one picture below and there was another picture that was much closer taken in the same day that shows chest hair.

The purple and brown colorations IMO is due to the fact that this is a cell phone photo taken in what appears to be a badly lighted environment. These kind of photos cannot show the full array of color. If you check the picture closely you'll see purple/pink colorations on his white shirt as well. Similar to brown spots on his cheek there are brown spots on the other person's hand and the ceiling.

MJ-Geivanchynchesthair.jpg
 
Everyone around him had to know he would not be able to those concerts eventhough they were in the same place. Look at him. When I saw the film I said, Hell Yes he could do it but looking at this pic. He could not have done it. He would have lost even more weight if there was any more to lose. Something is wrong. I don't know what it is but I'm not feeling good about any of it.
 
The purple, black and yellow colors are that of a bruise, not the brown and white colors from vitiligo.

There are many sicknesses that can give you bruises on your body. Not eating certainly doesnt helo.

well, not directly, but it leads to your body being extremely fragile
Anorectic people get bruises easily - check here:

Physiological changes in anorexia nervosa
(...)
Dry, inelastic skin, sometimes with yellowish tinge
Bruises and petechiae due to capillary fragility
Bradycardia, low pressure and low body temperature
Lanugo (fine hair) may appear on the face and extremities
Fluid and electrolyte imbalance
(...)
Cardiac arrythmias
...
http://books.google.com/books?id=Sh...Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=bruises anorectic&f=false

:(
 
I heard the story that MJ supposedly was getting the needles in his butt or thigh.

Why does MJ look like his chest is bruised? Same with the left side of his face:
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Is this the kind of body one is to expect after months of training with Lou Ferrigno?
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Or was this another lie?
 
Could those marks have been reflections from that shiny thing being held up around him? The yellow marks are and there are some more purplish marks on his skin too, eg to the right of the beads.
That's what I initially thought. Maybe the lights amplified the scars already there??? IDK Nonetheless looking at MJ's body and face during TII, I think he was either malnourished or anorexic. He was too skinny guys. I know people say that he looked skinnier during thriller but he was healthy looking and skinny during thriller...now he's skinny and not healthy looking, its not natural for him to look like this.
 
That could be it? Injured during rehearsals? Right. I can't imagine he weighed 136. Maybe that initial report of 108 was correct? We've never had any specifics, except for that very brief tox-report. This is incredibly stressful! :ph34r:

Just like the movie, these pictures made me cry. It is so obvious that he was WAY to thin!

Speaking of an injury, I found this not to long after his death, while I do not care for the tone in which it is written, I believe he may have been falling. If someone was drugging him, along with the lose of muscle. It would have been very easy for him to fall.
Those look like bruises to me, not the skin pigment. On his face too.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7494-LA-G...eps-hurting-himself-during-concert-rehearsals
 
I personally thought that the on the chest was just chest hair. I posted one picture below and there was another picture that was much closer taken in the same day that shows chest hair.

The purple and brown colorations IMO is due to the fact that this is a cell phone photo taken in what appears to be a badly lighted environment. These kind of photos cannot show the full array of color. If you check the picture closely you'll see purple/pink colorations on his white shirt as well. Similar to brown spots on his cheek there are brown spots on the other person's hand and the ceiling.

MJ-Geivanchynchesthair.jpg

IMO, the marks on his skin are not lighted, like the ones on the shirt. It may be shadow or something on his face but his chest looks bruised.
 
i think it's hair, not bruises. if there were bruises, he wouldnt have exposed them. plus he has this necklace around his neck and it's heavy for his weight. it's bouncing and if it's a bruise, it hurts. he wouldnt be wearing it then. IMO
 
It is just so sad having to see poor Michael like that...it has been bringing me to tears lately...It is so obvious he just wasn't eating...very little if at all.....in the TII clips I BELIEVE that they make it a POINT to show Michael eating.....They knew he was dangerously thin......the stuff that was being done to Michael was happening IN THAT HOUSE.....Poisoned...maybe drugged so that he had no appetite,,,IDK,,,and I wish I did...it is terrible to see those bruises on his body ..he didn't deserve any of this.

I've not seen TII yet, but if they do show him eating on there then maybe it is a ploy.

From the first moment it came out that ephedrine was found in his system I knew something was suspicious. It struck me as very odd. The police need to find out why it was in his system and how it got there. These are some of my main questions in the whole case. I looked into what they routinely test for in tox screens, and stimulants are on the list, along with narcotics etc etc. So, if it was given to him unknowningly, at least it did show up in the routine tests and was not missed forever. But now is the time for the police to do something with this and not just ignore it.

I just hate this! Why didn't they do anything? Why was Michael eating so "healthy" when he needed to gain weight. I should have went there and took him to KFC every night, just so he would gain a little weight. But then we don't know if Murray or whoever possibly Tohme? was maybe giving Mike that ephedra? or w.e it's called I get the names mixed up. But since that drug makes you lose weight? We just don't know, and I hate that we don't know.
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Yes I agree. Ephedrine, can cause loss of appetite and insomnia, amongst other things so is very suspicious. It was not given my the ambulance medics IMO. Also, it can affect the urinary system so maybe that's why he was taking the tamsulosin (Flomax). I hate to say it but if those bedroom pics were real then this could maybe explain the pad on the bed.
 
I've not seen TII yet, but if they do show him eating on there then maybe it is a ploy.

There is an extra on the Blu Ray of MJ eating at a production meeting. There are bowls of food on the table.
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1.It seems like Randy Phillips was making sort of crazy joke saying that Michael had “the body of astronaut”. I want Randy to change his body to Michael’s body after Michael’s death if he still is willing to do so. What a cruel thing to say! They think fans are blind and they do not see anything. We all know what the truth is. It is very obvious that Michael was very thin, he was under terrible pressure and stress. Randy has to be ashamed of himself saying that. Liars.

2.Those bruises on Michael’s’ chest is vitilago. It looks like no blood circulations there because there is not enough oxygen was delivered for some reason to this specific area of his body we can see at this picture. And as somebody said ephedrine was found in his system. I believe that only ephedrine kept him going but it was extremely dangerous for his heart and he couldn’t sleep at night. We all know the result.

3.I wonder all these ppl around Michael including Karen, did they see it? Those ppl who were making concert costumes for him, did they see it? The guy who designed those costumes for shows looked pretty healthy to me on the video. Did he see the difference between himself and Michael? If I was so close to MJ like Karen or others the first thing I would do to call 911, to warn everybody maybe and bring him to the hospital? Those ppl worried about their jobs. This is the answer. The person basically was dying in the front of their eyes and it probably was Ok with them? Job was more important. Now everybody loves and admires Michael when it is too late.

3.I am not talking about AEG. Those guys knew what they were doing. The video which was posted with Michael eating looks like they put it to DVD for a reason to show us that Michael was really eating OMG and everything was OK. This video looks so fake to me, even on a way how Kenny speaks to Michael. It shows who is the boss there. Kenny asked MJ:”Do you like that?” It seems like he already knows the answer and MJ is not really important there.
It is all very sad.
 
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