Tupac Shakur Appreciation Thread

MJBT;3503912 said:
All Eyes On Me is awesome my favourite has to be 2Pacalypse Now, Beginnings: The Lost Tapes 1988–1991 is one I listen to alot.
I not a huge fan of the Eminem album but I like it better than Pac's Life I think he gets lost against all the production and addidtions from other artists still sum great tunes there. If he had done Never Call You Bytch Again with D'Angelo before Tyrese it would sounded great Ah what would have been.

Biggie & Tupac is a great documentary I really I dont like the fact Broomfield included that autopsy picture of Tupac and the stirring was not the best of ideas lets behonest it would have been better if Tupac's music(had Afeni allowed its use) had featured as much as Biggie's. I have'nt seen that KRS-One documentary any good ?

By the way what are your favourite films he's been in mine are Juice and Above The Rim

The only song I like on Pac's Life is Soon As I Get Home as that sounds largely untouched. Yeah tell me about it. D'Angelo's voice would've sounded better on that song IMO.

Yeah the Broomfield doc is wrong on so many levels and the fact he included that autopsy picture is the last straw.

It's called 2pac 4-ever and hasn't been televised on TV as far as I'm aware. It's ok but the editing is questionable :p

My favourite films are Juice, Above The Rim & Gridlocked. Gang Related was ok but yet again he's killed in a movie! lol

Oh yeah btw! You been watching the Murray trial stream on TMZ? You noticed the buzz about a 2pac sex tape? I gotta a feeling it's what Treach filmed when he was talking in the interview in that documentary :p *Whispers*"You got it? You got it? Ok keep it! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS MU..."
 
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The only song I like on Pac's Life is Soon As I Get Home as that sounds largely untouched. Yeah tell me about it. D'Angelo's voice would've sounded better on that song IMO.

Yeah the Broomfield doc is wrong on so many levels and the fact he included that autopsy picture is the last straw.

It's called 2pac 4-ever and hasn't been televised on TV as far as I'm aware. It's ok but the editing is questionable :p

My favourite films are Juice, Above The Rim & Gridlocked. Gang Related was ok but yet again he's killed in a movie! lol

Oh yeah btw! You been watching the Murray trial stream on TMZ? You noticed the buzz about a 2pac sex tape? I gotta a feeling it's what Treach filmed when he was talking in the interview in that documentary :p *Whispers*"You got it? You got it? Ok keep it! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS MU..."

Dito I wish that had happened, hes not a very tactfull man broomfield he pulled the same tactics on the Kurt & Kortney doc its just too far with the autopsy pic the same with the pic of Michael.
Ah i'll have to track that down, how do u mean questionable?, I would like to have seen what Tupac would have done with the role in Menace 2 Soecity had he not got fired theres some other roles he was about to take before he was shot.
I've watched bits of the murray trial but to behonest it just makes me angry thinking about what Michael could have done with TII how he was taken from his kids too soon, you watching it.
Haha that made me laugh, *I know a guy who has a copy*"door kicked down by armed police" *I was joking I WAS JOKING* I would'nt want to watch it if it did leak lol :)
 
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The edit was just poor, KRS's voiceover just seemed out of place in some parts. Oh damn I forgot about the Menace II Society thing! He was meant to be playing O-Dog wasn't he or was it Caine?
 
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The edit was just poor, KRS's voiceover just seemed out of place in some parts. Oh damn I forgot about the Menace II Society thing! He was meant to be playing O-Dog wasn't he or was it Caine?

I'll give it a look cheers man,he wanted to play O-Dog Originally, Tupac Shakur was set to play Sharif and rapper Spice 1 was set to play Caine, Tupac did not want to play the role of Sharif, not being a Muslim.
 
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Ah yes the "fight" with the brothers. So it was another film he would've been shot dead in then lol What were the Films directors trying to say?! :p
 
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Ah yes the "fight" with the brothers. So it was another film he would've been shot dead in then lol What were the Films directors trying to say?! :p

Yes, lol I have 2 theories 1st) They saw him as the heroic character that would die and go down to become a mythic figure to inspire others, 2) Or they just thought he was too cocky and wanted to kill him off so they would have to put up with him for a sequel if the film were a hit. I prefer the 1st conclusion and hopefully thats what they saw.
Regardless of what the reason was he steals the films out from under his fellow co-stars.
 
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Getting a design sorted soon for my next tattoo which is gonna be pac inspired.
 
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Neither. Getting a few friends to work on an original design idea from an established theme Rose from concrete :)
 
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Neither. Getting a few friends to work on an original design idea from an established theme Rose from concrete :)

Cool upload it when its finished man, I'm gonna start a tattoo thread based on my excitement over The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo remake this year can't wait add it to that thread + here.
 
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I can't believe 2pac has been relegated to page 3?! lol


Hey mate I recognise the video in your signature but can't put a name to it! Kurupt and...???
 
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Had to bump this thread considering what's just gone down! ;)

 
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I just found this interview of Frank Alexander. He was the bodyguard of Tupac. He died a few months ago, i'm not sure when but i think it took place a few months ago. I read somewhere that he might have shot himself while cleaning his gun or while committing suicide. I'm not going to pretend to know the truth, i do not know what really happened. The following interview (whose first part was uploaded on June 16, 2013) is a five part interview. Only two parts are available, the rest will be uploaded later.

May you rest in peace Frank. :(





 
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^ :( Someone is hiding the truth
 
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By Rolling Stone April 8, 2017
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Presenter Snoop Dogg speaks about 2017 Inductee Tupac Shakur onstage at the 32nd Annual Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony at Barclays Center on April 7, 2017 in New York City.

Snoop Dogg inducted fellow West Coast legend Tupac Shakur at Friday night's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony at Brooklyn's Barclays Center. Both artists were on Dr. Dre and Suge Knight's Death Row Records, and Snoop Dogg had appeared on one of Tupac's final releases before his death, "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted."

Speaking to Rolling Stonebefore the speech, Snoop noted that, "The Hall of Fame has come a long way and we appreciate them for appreciating us for what we do. And hopefully there will be many more to come, because there's a lot of greats in hip-hop that deserve to be here." But for now, the rapper reminisced about his history with Shakur. Read his full speech below.


Snoop Dogg: I can't believe it's been 21 years since we actually got to hear Tupac, not the one clip on YouTube, not the hologram, Tupac Amaru Shakur the human being. Twenty-one years ago, Tupac Shakur was taken from all of us. He was only twenty-five years old, too. Dare me to say that he was gone too soon. When I sat down to gather my thoughts about my late and great, my homie and my brother there's one thought that kept coming back: Tupac was actually really good. While many remember him now as some kind of thugged out superhero, Tupac really was only good and he represented through his music like no one before. It's the fact that he never shied away from it. He wore it like a badge of honor. With an unapologetic voice, Pac embraced those contradictions that proved we ain't just a character out of someone else's story book. To be human is to be many things at once. Strong and bold. Hard headed and intellectual. Courageous and afraid. Loving and vengeful. Revolutionary and – oh, yeah I'm getting ****ed up.

So, while we may be here to celebrate one of music's most prolific and outspoken artists as he's rightfully enshrined as one of the greatest musicians to ever do it, I'm here to make sure that Pac is remembered the way he would have wanted to be: a strong black man who stood up. Not somebody who acted like a rapper, but as a human. That's what made Tupac an amazing actor on the big screen in movies like, "Above the Rim" and "Juice." That's what made him so engaged with everything he ever did. Both before and after his death. That's what made Tupac the greatest rapper of all time.

But to me, Tupac was first and foremost a homeboy. We shared a whole lot in common. The way our journey started together. We were both born in the same [neighborhood in] '71. He released his first single track from his scorcher first album "2pacalypse Now" in late 1991. Not even a year later I would make my debut alongside Dr. Dre on the song, "G Thang." I finally got a chance to meet Pac in 1993 at a wrap party in L.A. And on that night, Pac passed me my first blunt. That's right, Tupac is the one that got Snoop Dogg smoking weed. I was a zig-zag man before that shit. We became very good friends quickly thereafter.

Then, in 1995, I told Suge Knight, I said, "Suge get Pac out of prison and have him come join our team at Death Row Records." He never had a team before. It was always just him. Now, with us it was like he joined the Lakers. Dre was the coach and me and Pac were the stars on the court making history every which side. We were young, rich, and rock stars but we were also young men black men with targets on our back. We were catching cases simultaneously. That's why when we got together we really were two of America's most wanted. He had just gotten out of jail. I had just beat my case. I get a white Rolls Royce with that creamy white interior and Pac, he went out and bought a black one with the same thing.

He put me up on a lot of brand shit like Gucci and Versace and shit I can't even pronounce. I got that penthouse suite on Wilshire, then two weeks later Pac got the one right across the hall from me. Neighbors, you dig? We had no peers besides one another. Just two black boys struggling to become men. I never shared this story before but it really speaks to our journey. I had just beat my case and Suge had taken us to South America to get away from all the drama and me and Pac was parasailing. You heard right. Snoop Dogg and Tupac parasailing together. You got to remember I had just beat my case and Pac had just got out of prison. Does anybody know what parasailing is? Because we damn sure didn't. Me and Pac were sitting on the edge of the boat with all this gear and shit on and all of sudden the boat pulls away and we start floating and slammed up into the water like boom. I don't know what was in there. Sharks, or octopus or whatever, I'm like, man.

It was crazy because not only did we think we're on top of the world at that time we actually were on top of the world. Floating around in style then all of sudden Pac started telling me about some movie idea he had about me being the main star. He was saying some shit. I wasn't paying attention because I was like, 'we're too high.' I mean the shit he was saying to me at that moment was different, though. He saw me as an actor. He saw more potential in me than I saw in myself and it's funny because after he passed away I started getting a lot of movie roles and all this stuff. Pac was looking out for us even after he was gone.

That's the thing with Pac. When he loves, he loves hard. Whether that was him loving black people, him loving his homies, him loving his record label, and of course him loving his beautiful and incredibly strong mother the late Afeni Shakur. Memories of Ms. Shakur are embedded in m mind. Right after I heard Tupac got shot I immediately flew to Vegas. I was so weak I damn near fell over and his mom came over to me and she grabbed me and she held up and she said, "Baby, you to to be strong." I went and sat next to him and I whispered to him telling him I love him and to hold on and he was going to be OK and even in that moment his mom was thinking more about me than herself and showed me how to love strongly. I mean it was amazing that his momma was so strong and loved so hard.

I realized that Pac was taught how to love at a very early age and through his music he shared the love with all of us and that's ultimately why we're here tonight. Pac's apart of history for a reason because he made history. He's hip hop history. He's American history and just like in school the more research you do on history the more information that you have. So do your research. I'm not talking about Pac the rapper, I'm not talking about Tupac the actor, I'm talking about Tupac the human being. So with that said, we'd all like to officially welcome Tupac Shakur to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

You will always be the best. You will live on forever. Legends always do. They can't take this away from you, homie. I love you, Tupac. Welcome to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
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By Travis M. Andrews July 6, 2017 Washington Post
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It seems like a relationship between rapper Tupac Shakur and pop superstar Madonna at the height of their careers would have been fodder for the world’s tabloids. Instead, it was mostly rumor. And, as with so much of Tupac’s life, many of the specific details were lost with his death in 1996.

In place of a firsthand account, we’re left with an oral history pieced together by those who knew the couple. Madonna herself hasn’t been particularly forthcoming about the relationship, aside from confirming it and offering a few scant details in 2015.

However, a recently surfaced letter, written by Tupac to Madonna, offers a rare insight into the late rapper’s life. It appears to be a break-up letter, but it hinted at just how calculated aspects of Tupac’s character were, particularly with regard to race.

The letter was addressed simply to “M” and was dated Jan. 15, 1995, which coincided with his time at New York’s Clinton Correctional Facility for sexual assault. It was first published Wednesday by TMZ with four sections redacted. Rolling Stone said it confirmed the letter’s authenticity.

It will be up for auction with a starting bid of $100,000 at the Gotta Have Rock and Roll sale, which is scheduled for July 19 to 28. It was uncertain how the letter wound up in circulation.

In it, Tupac seemed to admit to breaking up with Madonna because she was white.

“For you to be seen with a black man wouldn’t in any way jeopardize your career, if anything it would make you seem that much more open and exciting,” Tupac wrote. “But for me at least in my previous perception I felt due to my ‘image’ that I would be letting down half of the people who made me what I thought I was.”

“Like you said, I haven’t been the kind of friend I know I am capable of being,” he wrote, adding, “I never meant to hurt you.”
By his “image,” Tupac was likely referring to his status as an activist and social critic focusing on the perils faced by America’s black communities through his music.

“I’m not saying I’m gonna change the world, but I guarantee that I will spark the brain that will change the world,” he once said.

His parents were both Black Panthers, and he was named for “Túpac Amaru, a South American revolutionary who led an uprising against his imperial Spanish colonizers,” according to HipHopDX.

His lyrics were often tinged with anger at the systematic oppression of black Americans. On “Words of Wisdom,” for example, he rapped:
Emancipation Proclamation? Please
Lincoln just said that to save the nation
These are lies that we all accepted
Say no to drugs but the governments’ kept it
And yet, they say this is the Home of The Free
But if you ask me, it’s all about hypocrisy


In the letter, Tupac also alluded to being hurt because Madonna in an interview said “’I’m off to rehabilitate all the rappers and basketball players’ or something to that effect.”

“Those words cut me deep seeing how I had never known you to be with any rappers besides myself,” he wrote. “It was at this moment out of hurt and a natural instinct to strike back and defend my heart and ego that I said a lot of things.”

“It no longer matters how I’m perceived,” he wrote. “Please understand my previous position as that of a young man with limited experience with a extremely famous sex symbol.”

Though the note was conciliatory — he offered “my friendship once again, this time much stronger and focused” — it took an ominous turn at the end.

“I felt compelled to tell you … just in case anything happened to me,” he wrote, adding, “Please be careful Madonna. Everyone is not as honorable as they seem. There are those whose hearts bleed with envy and evil. They would not hesitate to do you harm.”

Tupac was killed in a drive-by shooting the next year.

Madonna hasn’t said much about her relationship with Tupac, though she did once tell Howard Stern that he was responsible for her now infamous interview on “The Late Show with David Letterman” during which she used profanity, sexual innuendo and ignored several of Letterman’s questions.

“I was in a weird mood that day,” Madonna told Stern of the interview. “I was dating Tupac Shakur at the time, and he had got me all riled up about life in general. So when I went on the show I was feeling very gangster.”
 
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I had no idea Tupac and Madonna were ever together. Wasn't he engaged to Quincy Jones's daughter?
 
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^ Yeah he was engaged to her when he passed...
 
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^ Yeah he was engaged to her when he passed...

Don't think they were engaged.

Anyway, supposing what he said is true, imagine Madonna saying the same, she would have been called incredibly racist.
 
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