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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    I never said it was Michael's fault he injured himself, these things happen to people. And it was the lip syncing that bothered me about the performance, not Michael sitting down the entire time. If he couldn't dance properly then he should have sung live. Or at the very least performed some live adlibs.

    And I don't know what to say about the whole wheelchair thing, because I don't know how you came to the conclusion that my post could be seen as offensive to people in wheelchairs.
    it was lip singing?


    and yes that's is offensive if you look at a different point of view.



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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    I mean, he did choose to include “In the Closet” on the HIStory tour set list... right after “Scream” and “They Don’t Care About Us.” He also did “Don’t Stop ‘til You Get Enough” and “Off the Wall” (as part of a medley) for the first time since 1981. Anything’s possible.
    Off The Wall was performed in 1987.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    Off The Wall was performed in 1987.
    I have no idea how I didn’t remember that 😂 thanks for the correction!

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nite Line View Post
    This argument that Michael only performed his biggest hits because that’s what fans wanted to hear isn’t a valid reason. If that was the case, why wasn’t Remember The Time performed at the Dangerous Tour, as it was one of the biggest hits from Dangerous.
    It has been suggested that Michael Jackson dropped ‘Remember The Time’ from the Dangerous Tour for fear of twisting his ankle while performing the song on stage (and thus avoiding possible cancellations of the remaining tour’s dates).

    The dance routines of that song are very risky for the ankles.

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    Well, History's initial set list had some interesting aspects


    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    I doubt this was the actual running order (ending the show with SOOML and 2 Bad would be... interesting), but there’s a lot of promise here. Far better choices than what he ultimately went with.
    I doubt that this was even an actual set list of the ‘HIStory’ tour.

    For example, ‘She's Out Of My Life’ and ‘You Are Not Alone’ could not co-exist in the same set list of the tour, because Michael Jackson was meant to call a girl on stage only one time, and not two times.

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    If he couldn't perform the song properly because of an injury then the soul train award performance of RTT should have been cancelled.
    But that is what made that performance memorable in a way, to perform the song in a wheelchair.

    He also got a bigger media exposure because of that, which was good for him and for the sales of the ‘Dangerous’ album.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    it was lip singing?


    and yes that's is offensive if you look at a different point of view.
    Nothing what he said is offensive...
    All he said was "It's embarrassing when you sit down while a performance and don't sing live"...
    What the heck has this to do with people who generally sit in a wheelchair? nothing...
    And also people who sit in wheelchairs should be treaten as normal people...
    So if you always be careful what you say about them they will always feel like "different from the normal people"..
    If you want them to feel normal (what they are) then treat them like you treat people without a wheelchair.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    But that is what made that performance memorable in a way, to perform the song in a wheelchair.
    He didn't perform in a wheelchair, it was an ordinary chair

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzball View Post
    Well, History's initial set list had some interesting aspects



    Maybe the last few songs (WYBT - 2 Bad) are ''additional material'' like on the This Is It set list that Jonathan posted.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    I mean, he did choose to include “In the Closet” on the HIStory tour set list... right after “Scream” and “They Don’t Care About Us.” He also did “Don’t Stop ‘til You Get Enough” and “Off the Wall” (as part of a medley) for the first time since 1981. Anything’s possible.

    Edit: OTW was performed in ‘87. *insert embarrassed grin here*
    True, but those songs were all Michael songs and with the exception of ITC, he had previously performed all of those songs live. Given how predictable Michael was with his set lists, I very much doubt that he was going to perform State of Shock, a Jacksons song that he had never performed previously live.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    I wonder why Rock With You was dropped from the Dangerous tour setlist. He did rehearse it, and it would have came right after the Jackson 5 Medley. I''m guessing that there wasn't enough time to put it into the shows.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    If he couldn't perform the song properly because of an injury then the soul train award performance of RTT should have been cancelled. Or it should have at least been sung live. Lip syncing with no microphone while sitting down the entire time is embarrassing.

    But maybe Michael did want to cancel the performance, but it was too late for him to do that?
    Lip sync is almost always sung on television, especially in those years. This is a technical feature of staging such shows.

    This is not a solo concert on tour.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    I wonder if Michael had performed RTT at the Dangerous Tour, would he have lip synced it or sung it live? The safe bet is that he probably would have lip synced it, as that was the norm for him for all of his post 80s song.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    It has been suggested that Michael Jackson dropped ‘Remember The Time’ from the Dangerous Tour for fear of twisting his ankle while performing the song on stage (and thus avoiding possible cancellations of the remaining tour’s dates).

    The dance routines of that song are very risky for the ankles.
    really?


    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    But that is what made that performance memorable in a way, to perform the song in a wheelchair.

    He also got a bigger media exposure because of that, which was good for him and for the sales of the ‘Dangerous’ album.
    amen frenzy. i thought it was awesome performance.



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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    Nothing what he said is offensive...
    All he said was "It's embarrassing when you sit down while a performance and don't sing live"...
    What the heck has this to do with people who generally sit in a wheelchair? nothing...
    And also people who sit in wheelchairs should be treaten as normal people...
    So if you always be careful what you say about them they will always feel like "different from the normal people"..
    If you want them to feel normal (what they are) then treat them like you treat people without a wheelchair.
    it's not michael fault he broke his foot. in my opinion i love his performance at the soul train awards. also that's of rude to say, imagine if someone in a wheelchair couldn't perform standing up but was a great singer. be very careful what you say to people because you don't know them personally. i'm not in a wheelchair but pretty sure that would offend someone who is in the fan community.

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    It has been suggested that Michael Jackson dropped ‘Remember The Time’ from the Dangerous Tour for fear of twisting his ankle while performing the song on stage (and thus avoiding possible cancellations of the remaining tour’s dates).

    The dance routines of that song are very risky for the ankles.
    Remember The Time was not performed on the tour because Michael wasn't fully satisfied with the production, according to Kevin Dorsey.

    Kevin Dorsey has confirmed that Michael would drop both RTT and sometimes even CLHGA in the set list in certain cities on the tour. This is why we have footage of the dancers rehearsing Remember The Time in Bucharest.

    He has also stated this (about Remember The Time): ''And I always felt that he was trying to work something out and make something work in that, but there was something about Remember The Time that just never settled in with Mike...and he tried to make it work.''

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    Default Re: Why didn't Michael include ABC as part of J5 Medley on his tours?

    michael did can't let her get away? i'm not dangerous era fan so i probably miss it.



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