Michael - The Great Album Debate

[Calisto]

MJ Song Book (June 27, 2009) is likely the James Porte recordings supposedly heard by Roger Friedman.

The two ASON compilations (March 18, 2010) are likely the 12 written compositions recorded by "Michael Jackson."

Kapital, I agree in general with your post. It would be a surprise to me if Frank DiLeo's hands turned out clean in all this.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

MJ is the singer on the tracks, you think Michael is singing. I think Jason is singing. We THINK. No one truly knows.

I wish more doubters/believers would just say that and not attack the songs as soon as they hear them.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

MJ Song Book (June 27, 2009) is likely the James Porte recordings supposedly heard by Roger Friedman.

The two ASON compilations (March 18, 2010) are likely the 12 written compositions recorded by "Michael Jackson."

Kapital, I agree in general with your post. It would be a surprise to me if Frank DiLeo's hands turned out clean in all this.

Can I ask what is a MJ Song Book ?

 

[ivy]

Kapital, I agree in general with your post. It would be a surprise to me if Frank DiLeo's hands turned out clean in all this.

yeah let's blame the dead guy. It's totally appropriate and he can't defend himself.

people are forgetting that Dileo was the only manager that was supporting Michael and was at California by his side in 2005 trial. Why? Did he have to do that? No , he was fired decades before. He had no reason to be by Michael's side. Yet people assume that he would suddenly sell Michael and participate in fraud. And what for? What did he achieve from it? Yeah nothing!

and this is what is sick with the doubters some "theories" or assumptions - how they can find so easy to sit across a computer and accuse people of doing something wrong/ illegal - when they have no past behavior or current reason - just because they feel like it and it fits to their fantasy.

It's okay if you don't think the vocals to be Michael, but you must be careful of that thin line where it no longer is an opinion but becomes something else.

 

[azsummergirl]

To me it sounds more like Michael Jackson.

Please respect my opinion.

oh, wait, is that what you're saying? by "it" you mean KYHU? so your answer is "the 2 voices sound more similar to each other in comparison 1 than the 2 voices in comparison 2."? i don't understand what you're saying, is that what you mean? cuz my question is not, "what sounds more like michael jackson".

a lot of u seem to be having trouble believing that the cascio tracks could be jason malachi, because u don't think other, previous malachi songs are as good. u know, i DO agree that the 3 cascio tracks sound closer to an mj song than MOST of his previous songs (except for let me let go, which i actually think would have been more convincing than KYHU). Probably because of all of the cutting/pasting, multiple takes, production, AND the fact that jason was TRYING to sound like mj for $$$$. But here's the thing: it's still lightyears away. He failed because the cascio tracks STILL sound more like JM tracks than MJ tracks, even after all the work they put in. because no one--especially not this hack--can do michael. michael is the truth. and you can't fake that.

 

[Calisto]

Regarding Frank DiLeo,

His recent passing shouldn't grant him automatic immunity. The reality is that he was James Porte's manager (though the webpage that pointed it out was wiped clean just a few hours before the premiere of "Breaking News"), pals with the Cascios and Roger Friedman (possibly feeding the latter cheerleader propaganda about the songs), and someone with direct access to the Michael Jackson Estate.

Further, he seemed to take these tracks very personally (supposedly even having bouts with John McClain behind the scenes over their authenticity), and his name always had the habit of popping up in media stories regarding the vocal controversy.

Frank DiLeo was also reportedly the person who brought the Cascio tracks to the attention of Sony Music and John Branca in the first place, and to this day is the only individual to ever claim that Mike openly talked about recording a new album of material in New Jersey.

So yes, I can't help but question the extent of Frank DiLeo's involvement in the matter.

To those who're offended, I apologize.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Edited (double post)

 

[azsummergirl]

^^ya, and u know who else can't defend himself anymore? michael jackson. so that's real convenient that the first time we ever heard about these 12 songs was after he was gone. i care a hell of a lot more about standing up for michael than i do about standing up for dileo. this is not the frank dileo fan community.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

What I don't get is this:


[youtube]E82qNa0EWbA[/youtube]

Jason Malachi himself, in person, appears on youtube and says:

Hey, what's going on? This is Jason Malachi, just to clear up all the doubt, this is my song -Don't Walk Away- (which is) gonna be realeased on my debut album, April 2008.



So, when a small minority of people considered Jason's Mamacita and Let Me Let Go as Michael Jackson's songs, Jason shows up himself to clear the doubt up and even sings acappella to prove that the voice timbre we hear in the above mentioned songs is indeed his.

Now, that we have a whole MJ fan base divided, he either doesn't give a damn or is afraid that his statement "it is not me on the Cascio songs" could backfire into his face. Either way, he chose to remain silent one year after the release of Michael and I just wonder why he doesn't appear again himself to clear all the doubt up?

Jason, where are you now? Stop hiding.

a question to everyone:

when you listen to the above video - and forget timbre / vibrato etc - do you think he sounds like Michael?

question 2:

listen to Malachi don't walk away album version - you can easily find it on youtube

again just focus on "sounding like Michael" criteria

- are the live versus album sound the same? does one sound more like Michael then the other?

Funny how I ask a question, and instead of an answer, I get an unrelated question shifting the focus on something else.

Fact1: Some people thought Mamacita and Let Me Let Go were sung by Michael Jackson.

Fact2: Jason Malachi appears himself to clear all the doubt up.

Fact3: MJ fan base is divided because of the Cascio tracks and Jason Malachi is very well aware of it (even his manager was contacted about it).

Fact4: Jason Malachi does not appear at all to clear all the doubt up. Instead he disappears from the surface of this planet, contradicting his own behavior. Why?



Two possibilities:

1) He doesn't feel concerned (which is less logical compared to what he did, because he felt concerned for a smaller controversy back in time.)

2) He sung the songs and prefers to keep silent for his own protection.

...

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

^^ya, and u know who else can't defend himself anymore? michael jackson. so that's real convenient that the first time we ever heard about these 12 songs was after he was gone. i care a hell of a lot more about standing up for michael than i do about standing up for dileo. this is not the frank dileo fan community.

Not to mention that some people haven't even heard the voice on all the tracks.

 

[andreita2994]

I was always doubtful about these tracks, it kind of sounded like mj but if it did why was I having doubts. When I heard best of joy, I knew right away it was mj. It's not about How they produced the album, cuz 2000 watts was also produced a lot but i knew it was mj. What made finally decide who was really singing was something that I've recently noticed. Mj has a lot of diff voices, there's the soft voice, angry, rock like , etc.He had could do whatever he wanted with his voice. But JM only sound a like mj 's soft ,that's all he's barely capable to do. and these songs thats all I hear are sung softly, even in monster I don't hear the angry, bad ass Michael that I'm sure that he would have sang this song. That's why I think mj did not sing these songs...

 

[Chamife]

I was always doubtful about these tracks, it kind of sounded like mj but if it did why was I having doubts. When I heard best of joy, I knew right away it was mj. It's not about How they produced the album, cuz 2000 watts was also produced a lot but i knew it was mj. What made finally decide who was really singing was something that I've recently noticed. Mj has a lot of diff voices, there's the soft voice, angry, rock like , etc.He had could do whatever he wanted with his voice. But JM only sound a like mj 's soft ,that's all he's barely capable to do. and these songs thats all I hear are sung softly, even in monster I don't hear the angry, bad ass Michael that I'm sure that he would have sang this song. That's why I think mj did not sing these songs...

I agree with you on the voice. Yes, Michael was a great vocalist, but he also had the capacity to tell the story, to get the emotion across on his audience. Something that I miss on any Cascio song. Let's compare BOJ, sung in 2009, at the 'end of his life'...:wink: (we don't have any 'bad-ass' song which we are sure of Michael sang after 2007 as far as I know) with any Cascio ballad, sung in 2007. There is so much more depth and different nuances in the voice. The Cascio singer sings more shallow. It's what I always say: I believe Michael, but I don't believe the Cascio singer.

 

[Pentum]

I have to admit that the first time I ever heard Jason Malachi (Let Me Go), I almost thought it was Michael.

 

[Chamife]

I have to admit that the first time I ever heard Jason Malachi (Let Me Go), I almost thought it was Michael.

I never heard of Jason Malachi before. It was only after a couple of months after the live streaming of Breaking News.

I was on another forum that evening. I was totally unbiased, not read rumors or anything. Maybe I read them, but ignored them, I can't really remember. I expected to hear Michael and nothing else.

And I felt confused listening to that streaming. The music and the voice was what I concentrated on. Not really listening to the lyrics. That came a long time afterwards. I couldn't recognize Michael, but I knew that his voice could sound a bit different, because of alterations made to it. I thought the music (the part with the trumpets, it reminds me a bit of the music from the Paso Doble dance, a little bit Spanish) was nice. And that's all I could say about it at that time. Didn't know what to think of the vocals.
I also remember 'negative' comments weren't appreciated, and the creation of a thread called: 'Breaking News', celebration thread, what do you think? Positive comments only', or something in that direction. Fans who were (or dared to be) critical/sceptical were being accused of destroying his legacy. This album had to be nr 1, no matter what. Michael deserved that etc, etc. Any discussion on that subject was impossible. I didn't know what to think. The idea of someone else singing didn't occur in my mind, simply because I didn't expect it. I heard the voice was 'strange' though.
I remember posting: "Maybe very simply stated, but if it doesn't sound like Michael, it probably isn't". And I still feel that way.

If Jason Malachi really had Michael's singing capabilities, he wouldn't be still relatively unknown. Every big producer, big recordlabel would be waiting in line for him.

 

[Chamife]

I have a question to all 'believers', if it's not too much too ask..

If you let go of your own beliefs for just one moment and imagine that what the 'doubters' say is the absolute truth....how would you feel about that? How would you feel about what (if it's not Michael we hear) is being done to the artistic legacy of Michael by using someone else's voice and 'selling' it as Michael's?

One at a time please.

 

[ivy]

Regarding Frank DiLeo,

His recent passing shouldn't grant him automatic immunity. The reality is that he was James Porte's manager (though the webpage that pointed it out was wiped clean just a few hours before the premiere of "Breaking News"), pals with the Cascios and Roger Friedman (possibly feeding the latter cheerleader propaganda about the songs), and someone with direct access to the Michael Jackson Estate.

Further, he seemed to take these tracks very personally (supposedly even having bouts with John McClain behind the scenes over their authenticity), and his name always had the habit of popping up in media stories regarding the vocal controversy.

Frank DiLeo was also reportedly the person who brought the Cascio tracks to the attention of Sony Music and John Branca in the first place, and to this day is the only individual to ever claim that Mike openly talked about recording a new album of material in New Jersey.

So yes, I can't help but question the extent of Frank DiLeo's involvement in the matter.

To those who're offended, I apologize.

^^ya, and u know who else can't defend himself anymore? michael jackson. so that's real convenient that the first time we ever heard about these 12 songs was after he was gone. i care a hell of a lot more about standing up for michael than i do about standing up for dileo. this is not the frank dileo fan community.

It's not about being a "Frank Dileo Fan" or "standing up for him". It's about being a decent human. It's a principle that should apply to anyone in any situation.

I'll make it simple- Assume that I ask all of my friends - who have never ever met you or talked with you - to join me , and we write allegations, accusations , negative things , curse you and so on just because I believe / assume something about you and I can't prove it.

It's wrong.

Even if the media stories are true (that Dileo was Porte's manager, that he told about the songs to the Estate and so on), you have nothing that shows that he knew them to be fake, he was involved in the fraud etc, he could have been fooled. He could have trusted other people.

And that's the reason you don't accuse people based on a hunch or assumption because you could be persecuting an innocent person.

Again I think that unfortunately some has lost this and blinded by this issue that they can't even show that basic human decency anymore. Sad.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

oh, wait, is that what you're saying? by "it" you mean KYHU? so your answer is "the 2 voices sound more similar to each other in comparison 1 than the 2 voices in comparison 2."? i don't understand what you're saying, is that what you mean? cuz my question is not, "what sounds more like michael jackson".

a lot of u seem to be having trouble believing that the cascio tracks could be jason malachi, because u don't think other, previous malachi songs are as good. u know, i DO agree that the 3 cascio tracks sound closer to an mj song than MOST of his previous songs (except for let me let go, which i actually think would have been more convincing than KYHU). Probably because of all of the cutting/pasting, multiple takes, production, AND the fact that jason was TRYING to sound like mj for $$$$. But here's the thing: it's still lightyears away. He failed because the cascio tracks STILL sound more like JM tracks than MJ tracks, even after all the work they put in. because no one--especially not this hack--can do michael. michael is the truth. and you can't fake that.

Let me put it more simple for you, to me Keep Your Head Up, Monster, and Breaking News sound like Michael Jackson and that is my opinion so yeah to your answer the songs are by MJ.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

Funny how I ask a question, and instead of an answer, I get an unrelated question shifting the focus on something else.

Fact1: Some people thought Mamacita and Let Me Let Go were sung by Michael Jackson.

Fact2: Jason Malachi appears himself to clear all the doubt up.

Fact3: MJ fan base is divided because of the Cascio tracks and Jason Malachi is very well aware of it (even his manager was contacted about it).

Fact4: Jason Malachi does not appear at all to clear all the doubt up. Instead he disappears from the surface of this planet, contradicting his own behavior. Why?



Two possibilities:

1) He doesn't feel concerned (which is less logical compared to what he did, because he felt concerned for a smaller controversy back in time.)

2) He sung the songs and prefers to keep silent for his own protection.

...

You do you know he was doing a concert or what ever you wanna call it.

Only because he is not on Oprah or on the media talking about the Cascio songs does NOT mean he had anything to do with them it means it's none of his business so why should he go on some show to talk about it and get more hate for no reason.

 

[ivy]

Funny how I ask a question, and instead of an answer, I get an unrelated question shifting the focus on something else.

Fact1: Some people thought Mamacita and Let Me Let Go were sung by Michael Jackson.

Fact2: Jason Malachi appears himself to clear all the doubt up.

Fact3: MJ fan base is divided because of the Cascio tracks and Jason Malachi is very well aware of it (even his manager was contacted about it).

Fact4: Jason Malachi does not appear at all to clear all the doubt up. Instead he disappears from the surface of this planet, contradicting his own behavior. Why?

Fact 4 corrected: His manager had 2 talks with MJ Estate and denied Jason's involvement. His manager talked to TMZ and has denied Jason's involvement. His manager has talked to me on record and has denied Jason's involvement. His manager also gave another statement to another forum- yep you guess denying Jason's involvement.

Two possibilities:

1) He doesn't feel concerned (which is less logical compared to what he did, because he felt concerned for a smaller controversy back in time.)

2) He sung the songs and prefers to keep silent for his own protection.

...

possibility 3 : Although Jason through his representative multiple times denied his involvement some people aren't satisfied and aren't accepting that as it doesn't fit with their assumptions/ theories / fantasies.

Note : A lot of time communications happen through representatives / middle man. For example Estate online team sends us communications and no one goes "why doesn't Branca personally tell it". It's true for almost everyone we contacted - for example even very recently Frank Cascio, Jermaine Jackson, Karen Faye all communicated with me through reps / publishers. You should accept that Jason's manager is his representative and actually did speak for Jason multiple times.

 

[mjmax]

Let me put it more simple for you, to me Keep Your Head Up, Monster, and Breaking News sound like Michael Jackson and that is my opinion so yeah to your answer the songs are by MJ.

I think you misunderstand her question. She asked whether the voices are more similar in comparison 1 or comparison 2.

comparison 1
>>> http://www.box.com/s/3n6t8v0lejsu307r8i4i

comparison 2
>>> http://www.box.com/s/x5ptznfnfhxte6b198b7

Forget who are the singers.. just assume you don't know about Michael Jackson and Jason Malachi. When you hear each comparison, which one shows more similar voices? 1 or 2?

If we want to move the discussion forward, we should first try to find a common basis on which both the believers and doubters can agree. I think this question was a good starting point.

 

[ADKIc3mAnX]

I think you misunderstand her question. She asked whether the voices are more similar in comparison 1 or comparison 2.

comparison 1
>>> http://www.box.com/s/3n6t8v0lejsu307r8i4i

comparison 2
>>> http://www.box.com/s/x5ptznfnfhxte6b198b7

Forget who are the singers.. just assume you don't know about Michael Jackson and Jason Malachi. When you hear each comparison, which one shows more similar voices? 1 or 2?

If we want to move the discussion forward, we should first try to find a common basis on which both the believers and doubters can agree. I think this question was a good starting point.

For me #1 is more similar.

 

[Calisto]

Ivy,

It's not like I just randomly picked Frank DiLeo's name out of a hat and shouted "guilty!"

As someone who is absolutely confident the songs are counterfeit, Frank made himself a person of interest to me when he made the following statement regarding the bogus tracks:

"I spoke to Michael by telephone at the Cascios' home studio several times while he was recording with them, and he was excited and enthused by the music and the experience. While listening to the tracks, especially the ones not heard by the general public, you can hear that he was having a great time!"

The way I see it, Frank chose to make himself a part of the conversation via the above quote, because he knowingly positioned himself as being a witness to the creation of the songs.

And yes, he was James Portes manager. This information comes directly from Porte's own social profile. It was available for everyone to see from July 20, 2006, all the way up to the night of November 7, 2010—when it was then deleted. And, yes, he was also friends with the Cascios, as Frank Cascio's own Twitter account and book show.

So, Frank claimed to have spoken with Michael when the tracks were being recorded—saying that Mike was "enthused by the music"—and Frank did in fact have close ties to the people who created the songs (even managing one of the them). But there's more.

According to the NY Daily News, it was Frank DiLeo who first introduced the songs to the Estate and Sony Music. However, for some reason, even though Frank claimed to have known about the tracks existing for years, he didn't actually bring the songs to the attention of either party until early 2010—at least nine months after Michael Jackson's death and some days after the signing of $200 million deal. Why would he wait so long to open his mouth?

Once the Estate and Sony Music finally became aware of the tracks, it was Frank who then lobbied behind the scenes to make sure a number of the songs made it on the "Michael" album (that includes him possibly telling Roger Friedman to write fluff pieces about the tracks on Showbiz411). And after the album became a PR disaster thanks to the vocal controversy, the Estate reportedly began cutting Frank's power, and John McClain at some point began saying negative things about him internally. (See how this is basically lining up with what Kapital wrote?) And that's when Frank started threatening to write about the vocal controversy in his memoirs.

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Now, after having gone into a bit more detail, I'm not claiming with absolutely certainty that Frank knowingly participated in this fraud, nor am I directly encouraging anyone to start a smear campaign against him. I'm just sharing my own personal hunch about the man (in a private discussion thread) based on everything that I've learned about the situation. To me, it seems the chances of Frank having a hand in the scandal are greater than the chances of him not... If you or anyone else thinks that "sick," than fine.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

You do you know he was doing a concert or what ever you wanna call it.

Only because he is not on Oprah or on the media talking about the Cascio songs does NOT mean he had anything to do with them it means it's none of his business so why should he go on some show to talk about it and get more hate for no reason.

But it was his business to appear on youtube to clear things up before, why not now? What does any concert have to do with my question regarding clearing the doubt up?

Fact 4 corrected: His manager had 2 talks with MJ Estate and denied Jason's involvement. His manager talked to TMZ and has denied Jason's involvement. His manager has talked to me on record and has denied Jason's involvement. His manager also gave another statement to another forum- yep you guess denying Jason's involvement.

You did not correct fact 4, you just added your own fact 5. I am talking about Jason Malachi who himself appeared on youtube, you are talking about his manager. I never denied in any of my facts that his manager did or did not deny.

My fact 4 stands. Jason Malachi himself does not appear at all to clear any doubt up as he did for Mamacita and Let Me Let Go.

possibility 3 : Although Jason through his representative multiple times denied his involvement some people aren't satisfied and aren't accepting that as it doesn't fit with their assumptions/ theories / fantasies.

The fact remains unchanged, Jason did not appear to say anything at all from his own mouth.

Note : A lot of time communications happen through representatives / middle man. For example Estate online team sends us communications and no one goes "why doesn't Branca personally tell it". It's true for almost everyone we contacted - for example even very recently Frank Cascio, Jermaine Jackson, Karen Faye all communicated with me through reps / publishers. You should accept that Jason's manager is his representative and actually did speak for Jason multiple times.

I am not talking about "a lot of times" nor other people. I am talking about Jason's behavior when he appeared himself to clear things up. Now he not only doesn't clear things up, but disappears from the surface of this planet.

By the way, is your opinion based on what you hear on 3 tracks or on 12 tracks? I am asking this, because I don't see how you can make up an opinion on something you did not hear.

 

[ivy]

Ivy,

Calisto,

You know you don't have to quote every single thing, right? I read it all when they were posted. I closely followed this. I know that Porte's profile listed Dileo as his manager and I know that Frank Dileo said that he knew Michael was recording at Cascio house.

What you and your friends forget and don't consider is
- even through Frank's statement his whole communication was through phone.
- his first hand knowledge was limited to Michael's enthusiasm that he mentioned on the phone.

Add to this your theories - Frank might be unaware of actually what went in the house, what Michael actually recorded or not recorded, and he could have vouched for these songs based on his trust in the people involved.

You have no way of knowing one way or another yet you don't even stop to think or consider he might be an innocent / fooled party in this.

it's not like I just randomly picked Frank DiLeo's name out of a hat and shouted "guilty!"

you shouted without proof. Let me give you a reality check. If today someone came to the outside of your house and started shouting guilty (of whatever) you would have called the police to get them arrested / removed, and file defamation lawsuits against them. Why? Because accusing people without proof isn't acceptable, it's also defamation & slander. It's easy to forget all these in Internet world but that's how the real world acts.

According to the NY Daily News, it was Frank DiLeo who first introduced the songs to the Estate and Sony Music. However, for some reason, even though Frank claimed to have known about the tracks existing for years, he didn't actually bring the songs to the attention of either party until early 2010—at least nine months after Michael Jackson's death and some days after the signing of $200 million deal. Why would he wait so long to open his mouth?

Didn't Randy Jackson on his twitter say that McClain didn't start to look for songs for some time? Oh let me quote him

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Okay, after this Sony deal was inked, McClain went to work putting together the first album

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
Calling all over the place looking for music with my brothers voice on it

randyjackson8 Randy Jackson
From what I heard, he didn't care about the quality or how complete the vocals were.


So perhaps Frank only mentioned the songs when McClain asked him if he knew any songs existed. There you have it. Now blame McClain for not trying to collect Michael's songs for months.

Once the Estate and Sony Music finally became aware of the tracks, it was Frank who then lobbied behind the scenes to make sure a number of the songs made it on the "Michael" album (that includes him possibly telling Roger Friedman to write fluff pieces about the tracks on Showbiz411). And after the album became a PR disaster thanks to the vocal controversy, the Estate reportedly began cutting Frank's power, and John McClain at some point began saying negative things about him internally. (See how this is basically lining up with what Kapital wrote?) And that's when Frank started threatening to write about the vocal controversy in his memoirs.

you have sources other than tabloids for this? I guess not.

Now, after having gone into a bit more detail, I'm not claiming with absolutely certainty that Frank knowingly participated in this fraud, nor am I directly encouraging anyone to start a smear campaign against him. I'm just sharing my own personal hunch about the man (in a private discussion thread) based on everything that I've learned about the situation. To me, it seems the chances of Frank having a hand in the scandal are greater than the chances of him not... If you or anyone else thinks that "sick," than fine.

let me remind you.

I think Frank Dileo fooled one member of the Estate/Sony and also FrankDileo helped Porte and Eddie to include the name of Mj on lyrics register on 2009, be4 Estate heard about them, for the old Porte songs registered on 2008. I think the Estate then realized frank fooled them and left him alone and out of what he was doing till those days.. I think he had powers and he was like a help for them in their new Estate of Mj but later they saw he was not good.I blame DiLeo, Friedman and Eddie/Frank. The rest were fooled. I think they will not make more mistakes on future.

Kapital, I agree in general with your post. It would be a surprise to me if Frank DiLeo's hands turned out clean in all this.

so perhaps now you might want to consider "I'm not claiming with absolutely certainty that Frank knowingly participated in this fraud, nor am I directly encouraging anyone to start a smear campaign against him.". That's exactly what you did. Kapital directly accused Frank of knowing and doing and participating in this fraud and you agreed with him and said it would surprise you if he was innocent.

that's an accusation and a smear campaign done based on a hunch - and yes that's unacceptable in my book. (and I explained why multiple times on multiple threats).

 

[ivy]

I am not talking about "a lot of times" nor other people. I am talking about Jason's behavior when he appeared himself to clear things up.

How many times did Malachi appeared himself? Correct me if I'm wrong but when TMZ had one of his songs as Michael Jackson and then realized it wasn't Michael Jackson wasn't it a friend of Malachi that said "he isn't Michael" and not Malachi. Didn't a friend of his gave information to media that he loved Michael, he was deputy sheriff and so on? I'm sure Pentum probably has that articles. furthermore didn't Malachi's wife commented on some forums? To me it doesn't seem like all his statements were direct. Probably most will agree that Malachi's "Hello I'm Malachi ..." statements and videos are rare. Even when posting on forums he didn't reveal his true identity.

So how many times has Malachi spoke "himself" that you expect him to speak "himself" this time? Why do you treat it like the "norm" for Malachi?

edited to add: I found perfect support for my point from Malachi's own mouth.

Although Malachi is a white guy from Maryland, who works in law enforcement, he does sound a lot like Jackson.

"With the TMZ story, it came at a low point in my career, when I started working in law enforcement," Malachi says. "My best friend called me and says, 'Your song "Mamacita" is all over TMZ, they’re saying it’s not you, they're saying it’s Michael Jackson.' Then, my attorney contacted TMZ and, said, 'That's not Michael, that’s Jason Malachi.'"

The next day, a story appeared on TMZ, clearing up the whole thing.

http://www.tbd.com/blogs/tbd-arts/2...at-sounding-like-*****-can-be-wacko-2527.html

So reasoning based on your reasoning

As Malachi himself never denied to TMZ he wasn't signing on Mamacita in 2007, that song has to be Michael because attorneys/ representatives/ managers denying such claims doesn't count.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

How many times did Malachi appeared himself? Correct me if I'm wrong but when TMZ had one of his songs as Michael Jackson and then realized it wasn't Michael Jackson wasn't it a friend of Malachi that said "he isn't Michael" and not Malachi. Didn't a friend of his gave information to media that he loved Michael, he was deputy sheriff and so on? I'm sure Pentum probably has that articles. furthermore didn't Malachi's wife commented on some forums? To me it doesn't seem like all his statements were direct. Probably most will agree that Malachi's "Hello I'm Malachi ..." statements and videos are rare. Even when posting on forums he didn't reveal his true identity.

So how many times has Malachi spoke "himself" that you expect him to speak "himself" this time? Why do you treat it like the "norm" for Malachi?

Back in 2007, there was FIRST minor controversy, so he appeared ONCE on youtube, yet HE appeared.

Today we have the SECOND controversy of much bigger amplitude, yet HE DOESN'T appear ONCE. Furthermore, he seems to be HIDING.


Again, how many songs have you heard to defend your opinion?

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

As Malachi himself never denied to TMZ he wasn't signing on Mamacita in 2007, that song has to be Michael because attorneys/ representatives/ managers denying such claims doesn't count.

Except his manager, name Jason's attorneys and representatives who denied it. Because you make it sound as if Jason's whole team was fiercly denying things, when in reality all we have is an obvious answer to The Estate's question by his manager.

Anyway, it doesn't explain his behavior of hiding compared to his behavior regarding the first controversy.

 

[ivy]

see what I added above.

and let me give you this as well to explain why

He's talking about 2007

But with the increased fame also came increased hate. One commenter on TMZ wrote, “ok....he sounds a lil like michael, but honestly, he doesnt sound EXACTLY like him. hes good, but when mike comes back, he better hold his breath.” Malachi says some especially Jackson fans even found his home numer and began calling him with death threats, telling him to stop stomping on Jackson's turf.

Now seeing how some doubters act - such as putting his head on the body of goats, how some people have no realms of cursing people on twitter, or easily posting accusations, it makes ALL THE SENSE in the world that he wouldn't appear and even hide.

If someone hacked your computer and all online accounts, if people were mocking you, if people were accusing you, if people were cursing you, if people were stalking you, if you were receiving threats including death threats you would have gone into hiding too.

Some doubters aren't asking questions, they aren't investigating, they aren't debating, they have a lynch mob mentality.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

see what I added above.

and let me give you this as well to explain why

He's talking about 2007

But with the increased fame also came increased hate. One commenter on TMZ wrote, “ok....he sounds a lil like michael, but honestly, he doesnt sound EXACTLY like him. hes good, but when mike comes back, he better hold his breath.” Malachi says some especially Jackson fans even found his home numer and began calling him with death threats, telling him to stop stomping on Jackson's turf.

Now seeing how some doubters act - such as putting his head on the body of goats, how some people have no realms of cursing people on twitter, or easily posting accusations, it makes ALL THE SENSE in the world that he wouldn't appear and even hide.

Some doubters aren't asking questions, they aren't investigating, they aren't debating, they have a lynch mob mentality.

All this does not prevent him to appear on youtube and makes a clear statement. I am sorry, his lack of defense raises more suspicion than it contributes to clear things up.

 

[ivy]

All this does not prevent him to appear on youtube and makes a clear statement. I am sorry, his lack of defense raises more suspicion than it contributes to clear things up.

Question 1: Assume that he himself made a statement on youtube. What will it change?
Question 2: Do you realize that his silence and people thinking his silence meaning something and still going on saying songs 100% Malachi is helping him right? This is the first time that MJ fans are this much focused on Malachi, why would he want that to go away?