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Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

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Seven said:
Katherine loves all her kids and is trying to keep them all together. We have seen her trying to keep the peace and the family cohesion before.

Why would she not believe it if one of her kids said that PPB knew she was haing a rest and would not call them? I believe that is why she felt 'lied' to.
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I believe K loves all of her children and wants every one of them equally well off, even if it means throwing/sacrifice the deceased one under the bus. Apparently, in her mind, she thinks that there is nothing she can do for Michael, she at least can try to help other siblings.
I don't forget what she has said about Michael in her interviews, nor will I forget what she is ready do and say in certain court cases.


prismsagainst5live said:
Im in the uk so maybe im wrong but not much seems to have been made of the hostage statement. I mean what is the feeling in the media..is it general feeling that the siblings are off their shady rockers?
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prismsagainst5live said:
Im in the uk so maybe im wrong but not much seems to have been made of the hostage statement.
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It was kind of part hostage statement/part infomercial for the spa. Mrs j telling everyone it was a great place to visit (even if phone reception seemed a bit hit and miss), her relative wearing the tshirt and in this incredibly tight, tense family huddle, a random spa employee standing next to jermaine looking incredibly uncomfortable. It was the most bizarre piece of tv i've seen in a long time. Then the random comment about seeing a rainbow. I'm convinced this is the 'code' that tj talked about in his court statement re his phone call with grandma. She probably mentioned to him seeing a rainbow as well and he must have thought the sheer randomness of it meant it was code for help,i've been kidnapped.
 
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ivy said:
We don't allow Pap photos of the children and kids going out to buy books are irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Mod Note
The Paps pictures of Paris have been removed from this thread.
 
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I think if the judge grants the joint guardianship with TJ (unless it has happened) there should be certain conditions. Katherine's adult children have no business in how she takes care of Michael's children and to make it clear they have no say in the children's lives, security or anything. If they interfere again then Katherine will lose guardianship permanently. Make it legally clear to Randy, Jermaine, Rebbie and Janet to STAY OUT and mind their own business.

Michael wanted to leave everything to his children and charity. He also wanted his mother taken care of as long as she is alive. I don't know about anyone else but that sounds what Michael would want to do. Everyone else needs to get over it and take care of themselves.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Someone just said on Twitter that Entertainment Tonight showed a preview of an interview with Debbie Rowe and they will air the full interview tomorrow.
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I can't find a news about that...is anything to be find in youtube ?
Only found that comment in another forum:

Okay, so on ET Mark Steines said that they're gonna have an exclusive with Debbie on tomorrow's show about this whole thing that's currently going on with the family. They apparently went to her house and she showed some never-before-seen pix of Prince and Paris when they were babies. They showed a teaser of some of them and there was one that I haven't seen before. But I don't know if I should be glad or skeptical of all this. Did anybody else see this on ET?
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Paris78 said:
I can't find a news about that...is anything to be find in youtube ?
Only found that comment in another forum:

Okay, so on ET Mark Steines said that they're gonna have an exclusive with Debbie on tomorrow's show about this whole thing that's currently going on with the family. They apparently went to her house and she showed some never-before-seen pix of Prince and Paris when they were babies. They showed a teaser of some of them and there was one that I haven't seen before. But I don't know if I should be glad or skeptical of all this. Did anybody else see this on ET?
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Okay, LOL, now is when it get's confusing:

I was reading on yet another MJ board, that what Entertainment Tonight is actually going to show is an interview with Debbie Rowe from 2004.

If that turns out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, it would be just like these TABLOID shows to "bait" the viewer into thinking one thing, when something totally different get's aired.

Once it airs, we will know the real deal. I, personally, don't trust any of those fools, especially when they are trying to increase their viewership.
 
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I dont know how anyone bothers with american tv. it seems to consist of 10% previews that may or may not be new 20% content and70% commercial breaks that occur every 5 minutes.

Watching oprah shows its 3 mins of content then a cut to whats 'coming up in the programe' a commercial break then when the shows starts again its a recap of what just hapoened before tge break then another 2 mins of actual content then a plug for another show, its like wtf is this??!!
 
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Yeah, but what would have been the purpose of her going to the Spa so that she could "rest?"

If she was down with it, all she had to do is sign that dang letter.

She also could have signed the letter, gone to the Spa and kept in touch with the children at the same time. If she did know, what was the purpose of her not contacting the children.

If she knew, in my opinion, she would have signed that letter, letting everybody know that she agrees with the other members of the family who signed that letter. No need to hide out in Arizona.
 
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Mod warning : you need to watch your choice of words. you can write your opinions but do not use insults towards anyone.
 
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Diana Ross Will Sign Off On Michael Jackson's Kids New Custody Agreement
Created 07/31/2012 - 1:49pm


By Jen Heger - Radar Assistant Managing Editor

Diana Ross will sign off on a new proposed custody agreement in which Michael Jackson's three children, Prince, Paris, and Blanket will have two guardians, their grandmother Katherine Jackson and TJ Jackson, son of Tito, RadarOnline.com is exclusively reporting.
"Diana has no qualms whatsoever about the new custody agreement, she only wants what is best for the children. Diana knows that the children are old enough to decide who they want to live with and she defers to what they want. While Diana hasn't been a big part of their lives because she lives on the East Coast, she is very fond of them," a source close to the situation tells RadarOnline.com exclusively.

Michael Jackson's will stipulated that if his mother was unable to care for the children, Diana Ross was his next choice.
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, last week, Judge Mitchell Beckloff, stripped the Jackson family matriarch of her guardianship of the three children because no one could reach her for over a week. The judge said he made the ruling not because of any wrongdoing on Katherine's behalf, but because she had been prevented from fulfilling her guardianship duties by an "intentional act from third parties." Judge Beckloff told all parties while in court last week, that Diana Ross, and Debbie Rowe, mother of the two oldest children, needed to be provided notice of what was transpiring.

The children have been embroiled in a vicious family struggle for more than a week now as Randy, Jermaine and Janet Jackson battle over the late King of Pop's will, which they claim is fake. Michael's nephew TJ has been a constant presence in the children's lives and their attorney stated in court that they had no objections to him being appointed temporary guardian.
On Friday, it was announced that Katherine and TJ Jackson, would be petitioning to become co-guardians of the kids. The paperwork is expected to be submitted this week and the judge will have to sign off the proposed agreement.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/michael-jackson-kids-custody-diana-ross-sign
 
I wonder will we hear tomorrow Gladys' clarification/apology?
She got some heat too after her "kicking Paris' teeth out" remark.

Star Jones Clarifies Words For Paris Jackson, Michael Jackson's Daughter
Posted: 07/31/2012 3:33 pm Updated: 07/31/2012 3:56 pm

Star Jones feels that her concerns about Paris Jackson speaking out via Twitter have not been accurately represented in the media.

"Somebody PLEASE take @parisjackson phone! She's a CHILD So STOP it," Jones tweeted last week. "I have 8 aunts...and if I was "tweeting" our family info that's being used for TABLOID fodder ONLY! They'd check me with a quickness," she continued.

However, on Monday, Jones took to the social-networking site to clarify her feelings on the matter.

“Let me be clear: any child who is being emotionally and/or physically abused needs to shout it to the rooftops to people who can help,” tweeted Star, after getting backlash for her original remarks. “I DO NOT however believe that #twitter or any other social media is that forum for a vulnerable child. It is EXPLOITIVE and DANGEROUS...Exposing oneself to the scrutiny, criticism and evaluation of anonymous adults on social media does not help; in fact it can hurt tremendously.”

Jones clearly doesn’t like the response when she exposes herself to the scrutiny, criticism and evaluation of anonymous adults on Twitter, and now is arguing (via Twitter) that it’s not the right medium for a 14-year-old girl either.

“Social Media is not a place of safety, security or most importantly LEGAL RECOURSE for a vulnerable child; no matter how famous,” tweeted Star. “Don't care if you like me or don't like me...I have advocated for children and the law for over 25 years. That's my agenda; WHAT'S YOURS?”

In a private message to me, Star made it clear that her only concern was the safety and privacy of Paris. May I suggest, Star, that you take the advice you give and step away from Twitter for a while?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/star-jones-paris-jackson_n_1724952.html
 
(Posted today on her Facebook)

In January of 1997, Michael Jackson asked me to leave my job as Personnel Director at MJJ Productions and help him take care of a son that would be born a month later. That son was Prince. Little did I know that I would spend the next 12 years of my life helping his raise Prince, Paris and Blanket from the moment we brought them home from the hospital.

Everyone knows that Michael went to great lengths to protect his children from the public eye. While the use of veils and masks was unconventional, it only highlights how important this issue was to him. He understood, probably better than anyone, that growing up as a public figure, especially in the entertainment business, can be a recipe for disaster. We can all probably name several child or young stars who struggled and in some cases failed to move into normal adult lives because of the pressures they faced as children.

The recent drama surrounding Michael’s mother Katherine, the ongoing custody issues and the now public dispute between Paris and Janet is exactly what Michael wanted to protect his children from. These matters have been further complicated by Gladys Knight’s and others recent and well intentioned comments about Paris. I have great respect and admiration for Mrs. Knight. And while I agree with the spirit of her comments, attacking Paris in public is not the answer.

Michael taught his children to respect their elders; Paris and her brothers understand that well. Any parent also knows that children that age will test boundaries and assert themselves in a way that deserves discipline and sometimes an appropriate level of punishment. What Mrs. Knight fails to realize is that Paris is still getting to know her extended family. When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles. They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them. They are now learning to live and exist outside the ‘Michael Jackson bubble.’ There will be growing pains, and the kids, like other kids their age, will make mistakes. They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests. The difference between Paris and all other kids her age is the rest of the world will be watching.

Please, be fair to Paris. Give her the chance to make and learn from her mistakes without demonizing her. She is a spirited, very expressive and dramatic young girl. The traits that made her the apple of her father’s eye are the same traits that she must learn to control as she matures into adulthood. Let’s be careful not to dim her spirit. It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids.

Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals. I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt. No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform.

Grace Rwaramba
 
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Grace knows these kids obviously but she is asking us not to critize Paris but she is the one saying Paris tweeted stupid things and did a mistake.

Did I get that right?
 
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What does she want? I think she knows that Michael would not go speaking to his kids for 10 days.
 
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Sucking upto the jacksons? some love the kids and want whats best for them and many dont. grace sold her soul along time ago
 
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Star Jones is entitled to her opinion.

My issue with Gladys Knight is that she reacted to what TMZ alleges to have happened. As far as I recall both the Jackson camp and Paris Jackson rejected the notion that there was any verbal alteracation.

And if Ms Knight wants to believe what TMZ said, then she needed to check Janet Jackson for alleging calling Paris a "bitch"!
 
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"family loves them and wants what's best for them????"

ookaaaaaay :smilerolleyes:


Hard to believe I used to think Grace is one of good people around Michael
 
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virginia_woolf said:
"family loves them and wants what's best for them????"

ookaaaaaay :smilerolleyes:


Hard to believe I used to think Grace is one of good people around Michael
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exactly. what planet is she on. or is she after a job?
 
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Hmm...first thought: someone else unhappy with Michael's will
second thought: Estate might need to add another name to their exclusion list.
 
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" When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles."

And the reason for this was?????---I believe Paris was backed into a corner when she was not allowed to reach her Grandmother and she reached for help the only way she could. Now on the other hand, I don't think she should be a casual, everyday user of Twitter, it does leave her vulnerable to bullying and stalking. I think as with all parents it is something TJ will have to monitor.
 
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Despite whatever may have transgressed between her and Michael, I always thought that she would fiercely protect those children that she's known since birth. Boy was I wrong, not only did she criticize Paris for being disrespectful based on a false TMZ report about an altercation with Janet, but she calls her tweets "stupid" and sides with the very people that are attacking the poor girl. :(
In many way those kids probably looked up to her as a mother figure and here she goes throwing Paris under a bus (ala Katherine with Michael), that has to hurt, maybe even more so than the family members that the kids weren't close too during Michael's lifetime.
Seems those kids are doomed to be backstabbed by everyone that's ever breathed on them much like their father was, at least they can lean on each other.
 
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" When Michael was around, the children had very little contact with their aunts and uncles."
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Exactly Grace and you can have no say over the children's life anymore. You sure loved and continue to love them but you were just a nanny!
Michael knew so better than anyone!!!
 
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I agree with her saying that Gladys comments were inappropriate and that people should not criticize Paris. I think she is right also about questioning if a child should have all these followers on twitter. I agree with her about the children not being accustomed to this extended Jackson group and have to learn to get to know them, since Michael kept them away. (Even Kathrine said she only met the kids a few times. She gave a number but I cannot remember.)

Her mistake is that she believes in the lie TMZ started stating that Paris and Janet exchanged those nasty words and Janet slapped Paris' face. The problem is that the news articles and TV programs simply copied what TMZ wrote and splashed it all over the news. No one bothered to check the information. As a result Grace like many people believe that Paris swore at Janet, Janet called Paris a bitch, and Janet slapped Paris. That is why Grace is saying that Paris will make mistakes, and mentions Paris' personality.

Because she believes the statement coming from Katherine, she assumes the family wants what is best for the children, another mistake. She needs to educate herself about the dynamics of the situation and the facts before writing.
 
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Exactly why is discipine and punishment warranted? Grace has disavowed everything the adults have done to frighten a 14, 15 and 10 year old. I am still waiting for Katherine to publicly state positives for Prince and Paris and say how much she loves the three children.
 
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I wish TJ would ask Grace to be a member of the household again; because I believe Grace is someone Michael Jackson's children trust.
 
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This doesn't sit right. Seems like she's not being honest with herself, and wants to make people happy. I could be wrong.
 
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X17 EXCLUSIVE - Katherine Jackson's Attorney Says There Is "No Animosity" Between Cousins Prince And TJ Following Guardianship Drama

Posted on Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:45 AM PDT
TJ pic courtesy of Facebook
Katherine Jackson's attorney, Perry Sanders Jr., tells X17online exclusively, "We're trying to hammer out the details this week to protect Mrs. Jackson and the children."
Sanders adds that he won't be returning to court until the scheduled court date of August 22, but in the meantime, "We're dotting all our i's and crossing our t's."
When Katherine Jackson requested that he meet with she and nephew TJ at her house, the attorney tells us, "I didn't know what to expect."
TJ Jackson, Tito Jackson's 34-year-old son, was granted temporary guardianship over Michael's three children ... Paris, Prince and Blanket. Since Michael's death in 2009, his 82-year-old mother has been in charge of the kids.
Sanders recalls the moment Prince Jackson, 15, walked into the room where TJ and Mrs. Jackson were discussing their guardianship plans. Sanders, who witnessed the two cousins interacting, tells X17online:
"There's a close bond there and a definite sense of unity. Contrary to what people think, there was absolutely zero animosity between those two. I felt nothing but love in the room."
Sanders, who says he met with Prince, Paris and TJ last Friday, adds, "Anybody saying something to the contrary obviously isn't in the know."

Read more at http://www.x17online.com/celebritie...ianship_cousin_073112.php#aiiAxE0RYYZdAQ5V.99
 
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CherubimII said:
From twitter:

Paris Jackso? ?@ParisJackson
aight i gotta go offline until im out of twitter jail lol keep on keepin on guys
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Now that is horrible.
What they are not realizing is that if there was someone good in that family that Paris could have turned to for help, she would never have gone on twitter to ask a bunch of strangers. It is sad when strangers/fans are more concerned about you than a family.

Just saw what twitter jail means from Ivy
 
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