Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Michael Jackson's son launch YouTube show: This is awesome & great to see Bigi (Blanket) putting himself out there.

I was watching some of it this morning on my way to work and I kept repeating Bigi's part. LOL. His voice is SO DEEP!!!!!! I couldn't believe that was our sweet, shy, little Blanket, all grown up.

I got so tickled when he said that they should cut off the camera, because the PIZZA had arrived and he really wanted to eat that pizza. Bigi = Well Spoken, Smart and Handsome!!!!
 
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Anyone have concern the news showing interest in his kids is mostly to try and get after Bigi who seems the most like MJ in terms of demeanor? I fear they want to set him up for bad press like they do all the high profiled kids. I kind of wish he wasn't a part of this. People are evil and I want him to be off limits.
 
While the media keep paying, Clemente will keep talking.

It's a reciprocal relationship. The more outrageous Clemente's unsubstantiated claims the more he gets paid by the media and the media have the illusion of authenticity for their stories by claiming they came from somebody who worked for the FBI.

Both are covered by the fact MJ is dead and can do nothing.

In reality Clemente knows very little about the MJ allegations. He appears to lean heavily on tabloid tales from long ago and also seems to make stories up as he goes.

Similarly Dimond, despite spending years professing to be an expert on MJ and the allegations, seems to know very little of any substance. Both people are wheeled out to add a negative spin to a story whenever needed. They're not paid for facts.

BOTH could have spent time learning about their subject and actually talk some sense, but as facts are irrelevant to the media, and in MJ's case facts directly contradict the agenda, neither person has bothered to educate themselves.

Dimond even suggested recently that a 12 year old boy would be unable to realise the difference between a two story train station as big as a house and a small open-air train shelter with a bench. It takes a special kind of stupid to even consider tweeting that.

My theory is, he's just the same ilk as Perez Hilton. He knows he has a captive audience with the MJfam. Let's be honest people not invested in LN being true or false have moved on and don't care anymore about the allegations (unless of course more come forward) so this Clementine guy is just feeding a hungry MJfam who wants to/needs to defend MJ.
 
Anyone have concern the news showing interest in his kids is mostly to try and get after Bigi who seems the most like MJ in terms of demeanor? I fear they want to set him up for bad press like they do all the high profiled kids. I kind of wish he wasn't a part of this. People are evil and I want him to be off limits.

No concerns here. I think the young lad can handle himself. I listened to some of the YouTube they put out and he seems well educated and smart.
 
MJPoetryFan;4258150 said:
I'm not going to listen to him but I'm sure some of you will want to so I will share it here.

[video=youtube;_2EtG2WFFQ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=_2EtG2WFFQ8[/video]

There's a bit of text with it here:

Dan Reed (&#8216;Leaving Neverland&#8217;) on dealing with Michael Jackson&#8217;s defenders: &#8216;To be honest, I&#8217;ve ignored the radical stuff&#8217; [EXCLUSIVE VIDEO INTERVIEW]

&#8220;We knew that Jackson&#8217;s estate and his fans would be upset,&#8221; reveals director Dan Reed about the reactions to his recent HBO documentary, &#8220;Finding Neverland.&#8221; The reactions, especially from Michael Jackson&#8216;s defenders, were louder than he had anticipated, didn&#8217;t catch him off-guard. Reed tells us in our recent webchat (watch the exclusive video above) that what did come as a surprise to him was how exposed he was to the negative reactions. &#8220;As the director of a documentary, I try and stay in the background while the subjects speak for the film, because they&#8217;re usually what people are interested in. But in this case we didn&#8217;t want to over-expose James and Wade so I found myself answering all the questions.&#8221; In the case of Jackson&#8217;s most passionate defenders, who aren&#8217;t interested in what the film has to say, he&#8217;s mostly just ignored them though.

&#8220;Leaving Neverland&#8221; is a two-part documentary that tells the story of both Wade Robson and James Safechuck, who both allege that they were sexually abused by pop legend Jackson for several years beginning at the respective ages of seven and ten. Robson and Safechuck not only give graphic details about the abuse that Jackson perpetrated but how he ingratiated himself into the lives of their families and brought all of them into his inner circle. Before his death in 2009, Jackson had been publicly accused of child molestation twice. The first case was settled out of court in 1993 and the second case went to trial in 2005 that ended with Jackson being found not guilty of the charges.

The film was originally going to examine the subject in much broader way but soon after filming started, Reed took it in another direction. &#8220;I realized that people don&#8217;t really get what child sexual abuse looks like and they don&#8217;t understand the way the seduction seems to happen. So, to me, this became an opportunity to allow people to take a really deep dive into the psychology of child sexual abuse and the way it happens.&#8221; The interviews with Wade and James&#8217;s families also helped show how they all were lured in by the glamour and security that being in Jackson&#8217;s orbit provided.

While the whole documentary contains shocking details of what occurred, Reed found several areas that stood out as particularly appalling. &#8220;When I sat down to interview Wade, I remember doing this double or triple-take when I realized that what he was telling me was that as a seven-year-old, he had been seduced and fallen in love with Jackson. Jackson wasn&#8217;t violent or brutal or forcing himself on him. That was more shocking than the sexual descriptions.&#8221; Reed also said that James&#8217;s descriptions of being cast aside as he got older in favor of other younger boys was also very distressing.

I wonder if they've put this programme in for an Emmy? There is some other text on the same page:
Be sure to make your Emmy predictions today so that Hollywood insiders can see how their TV shows and performers are faring in our odds. You can keep changing your predictions as often as you like until just before nominations are announced on July 16. And join in the fun debate over the 2019 Emmy taking place right now with Hollywood insiders in our television forums. Read more Gold Derby entertainment news.

https://www.goldderby.com/article/2...umentary-michael-jackson-hbo-video-interview/

(Emmy 'News and 'Documentary' submissions close on 3rd June, and the nominations are usually announced in the last week of July, for award in September. I'll be keeping everything crossed that LN gets a big fat zero at any awards). Last year NASA won for a programme about Cassini, so the standard seems high.
 
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Anyone have concern the news showing interest in his kids is mostly to try and get after Bigi who seems the most like MJ in terms of demeanor? I fear they want to set him up for bad press like they do all the high profiled kids. I kind of wish he wasn't a part of this. People are evil and I want him to be off limits.

I believe that's why he's the most quiet one when it comes to some stuff. i don't know but i feel bigi is the unique one. time will tell. :D
 
There will be. It is happening now and will get even better. These evil people have to remember they have to answer for what they are doing to an innocent man. MJ will get pass this and rise higher as it always do. If u feel down, just remember this bible verse and God do not lie on his word:

[h=2]Isaiah 54:17[/h][h=1]Isaiah 54:17 KJV[/h]No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
KJV: King James Version

I really hope your right. i actually pray for Michael the other day.
 
I don't see more big names coming out with support yet. Once the estate finishes the investigation and when Taj's doc gets released then we'll see people coming out. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later.
So we had the Queen of Pop speak out the other day. Now it's the Princess of Pop. Who's next?!
 
At this point, Reed is fighting an up hill battle, AND HE KNOWS IT. I mean, his "mockumentary" came out in January. It's now the middle of May and he's STILL out here trying, in vain, to defend it.

Reed says the reaction from MJ Defender's were louder then he anticipated. LOL. I bet they were louder then he anticipated, because they ALL (included Oprah) thought folks would just watch the "mockumentary" and automatically believe it. No questions asked. WRONG!

Then he has the nerve to say they didn't want to overexpose the 2 liars. So he found himself answering all the questions. First of all, the 2 liars had their stories told all over the world. But NOW Reed is worried about overexposure!! If there weren't so many discrepancies, inconsistencies and outright lies, he wouldn't have to be answering so many questions.

Reed out here trying to put out all the fires, while the 2 Liars remain in hiding.
 
Dan Reed thinks he outsmarts people by making generalized demeaning statements about others and dismisses key pieces of information so the audiene will fallow. He tries directing and manipulating the viewers every chance he gets.

Problem is, people are not as gullible as they were when he first started directing work and he has not evolved with everyone else.. We don't fall for drone shots!
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tmz</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HarveyLevinTMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HarveyLevinTMZ</a> couldn’t you at least mention that Britney Spears worked with, and had an affair with, Wade Robson, Michael Jackson’s primary accuser in “Leaving Neverland”?!<br><br>Seems like a pretty significant choice of music, no?! <a href="https://t.co/Gq5NTXpVxE">https://t.co/Gq5NTXpVxE</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1129159908434165760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is depressing to think she slept with that jackass.</p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1129206013586841600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is how Oprah's Twitter looks like from a random account!&#128071;&#127996;<br>No wonder she's blocking us!<br><br>She is 'Snaken up' 'BAD'! &#128013;&#128514;<br>Well done <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> &#128079;&#127996;<br>Create backup accounts!<br>Don't let her get away so easily!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OprahPimpfrey?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OprahPimpfrey</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFamUnite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFamUnite</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/s0WFOneAKe">pic.twitter.com/s0WFOneAKe</a></p>&mdash; Nan Raghav (@NanRaghav) <a href="https://twitter.com/NanRaghav/status/1129118185859440640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">he snapped <a href="https://t.co/SG2axWCMa3">pic.twitter.com/SG2axWCMa3</a></p>&mdash; &#119990;&#120008;&#119997;&#120001;&#119890;&#120014; (@ughashmind) <a href="https://twitter.com/ughashmind/status/1129093282150199297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Whoever made this, god bless you Bruh! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mjinnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mjinnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tiredofinjustice?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tiredofinjustice</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/throwingmeinaclasswithabadname?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#throwingmeinaclasswithabadname</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/****oprah?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#****oprah</a> <a href="https://t.co/avvoZ6iXV6">pic.twitter.com/avvoZ6iXV6</a></p>&mdash; k (@katysshoes88) <a href="https://twitter.com/katysshoes88/status/1129120234911277056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmplifyMJ?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AmplifyMJ</a> <a href="https://t.co/kCBdGOuOkg">https://t.co/kCBdGOuOkg</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1129247693593645056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78;4258234 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey <a href="https://twitter.com/TMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Tmz</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/HarveyLevinTMZ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HarveyLevinTMZ</a> couldn’t you at least mention that Britney Spears worked with, and had an affair with, Wade Robson, Michael Jackson’s primary accuser in “Leaving Neverland”?!<br><br>Seems like a pretty significant choice of music, no?! <a href="https://t.co/Gq5NTXpVxE">https://t.co/Gq5NTXpVxE</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1129159908434165760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It is depressing to think she slept with that jackass.</p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1129206013586841600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is how Oprah's Twitter looks like from a random account!&#128071;&#127996;<br>No wonder she's blocking us!<br><br>She is 'Snaken up' 'BAD'! &#128013;&#128514;<br>Well done <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a> &#128079;&#127996;<br>Create backup accounts!<br>Don't let her get away so easily!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OprahPimpfrey?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#OprahPimpfrey</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJInnocent?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJInnocent</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFamUnite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFamUnite</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJTruthSquad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJTruthSquad</a> <a href="https://t.co/s0WFOneAKe">pic.twitter.com/s0WFOneAKe</a></p>&mdash; Nan Raghav (@NanRaghav) <a href="https://twitter.com/NanRaghav/status/1129118185859440640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Mai 2019</a></blockquote>
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Hahaha Lmbo Oprah twitter page is slayed. I'm screaming I'm laughing so hard.:rofl::rofl: I don't have twitter so this makes it more fun.
 
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