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"Michael", a biopic about Michael Jackson, is officially happening.

innuendo141 said:
It's not allegations at that point form what I remember, the line is "what is this about a family who's children you've befriended?" and he ignores the question. Someone correct me?

The play takes place before the Munich show, so no allegations yet.
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Well. Man.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
So it’s useless and we shouldn’t even care about what you say really. Thanks.
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You don't have to care or believe me. That actually works out well for me if you don't believe it. I've said too much already.
 
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kelley said:
You don't have to care or believe me. That actually works out well for me if you don't believe it. I've said too much already.
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Thanks for sharing but I'd like to know more. It comes across that you are hopeful that he will come forward and I'm curious as to why you think this. Has something occurred to make you think this or are you counting on him doing the decent thing?

Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the above since you appear to have some knowledge of him.
 
kelley said:
You don't have to care or believe me. That actually works out well for me if you don't believe it. I've said too much already.
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Do you understand why saying, "I know everything, but I can't/won't share anything" is pretty pointless and only tends to turn people off? If a now-45-year-old Jordan Chandler is consciously deferring the complete vindication of an innocent man, wouldn't he deserve to be called out or exposed? This could mean the difference between Robeson and Safechuck winning or losing their civil case, so I find it odd that you're being protective of someone whom you believe is obstructing justice.
 
nextbigthing56 said:
What would everyone think of them using Jaafar to finish off an unreleased MJ track, to be released with the biopic?
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That's actually an interesting idea, I think it would work well. But it couldn't just be callled ______ by Michael Jackson, it would have to be featuring Michael or something. But great idea
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I can't wait to see how much of the concerts and short films they try to recreate.

I wonder if they'll show more of the behind the scenes of these moments and how they were made, rather than do a shot for shot remake of the concerts and videos
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Yeah, I'm excited to see what kind of things they include in the biopic, and how deep they'll go into his personal life.
 
dukenukem said:
Do you understand why saying, "I know everything, but I can't/won't share anything" is pretty pointless and only tends to turn people off? If a now-45-year-old Jordan Chandler is consciously deferring the complete vindication of an innocent man, wouldn't he deserve to be called out or exposed? This could mean the difference between Robeson and Safechuck winning or losing their civil case, so I find it odd that you're being protective of someone whom you believe is obstructing justice.
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Square one is the closest we will ever get to a "confession" from Jordan. The fact that he wanted nothing to do with the '05 trial speaks volumes imo. He could have easily joined the prosecution. It's his actions that tell me he knows Mike was innocent. For legal and privacy reasons, he isn't going to speak about this. It is what it is.

I can absolutely beleive this estate having to reshoot scenes because they forgot about the settlement. Incompetence is Branca's talent.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
Square one is the closest we will ever get to a "confession" from Jordan. The fact that he wanted nothing to do with the '05 trial speaks volumes imo. He could have easily joined the prosecution. It's his actions that tell me he knows Mike was innocent. For legal and privacy reasons, he isn't going to speak about this. It is what it is.

I can absolutely beleive this estate having to reshoot scenes because they forgot about the settlement. Incompetence is Branca's talent.
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But to play the devil's advocate, he also could've been part of the defense in 2005...right? And to be fair, the 'Square One' "confession" was relayed to us secondhand. Anybody can say, "I knew Jordan and he said X." And even if we could verify that Jordan did indeed say what was asserted, it could be for a number of reasons; i.e., it was what he wanted others to believe he believed, not necessarily how he personally felt - or he could've been trying to deflect attention away from himself, so people wouldn't think he was "that boy." Until we ever hear from him directly, I don't think we can ever make assumptions about where he stands in this matter. Ditto his motivations for remaining silent.
 
jasmine.uddin said:
Thanks for sharing but I'd like to know more. It comes across that you are hopeful that he will come forward and I'm curious as to why you think this.
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I am hopeful, can't tell you why, but I will say that Taj said he believed he would tell the truth in 2022. I don't know what Taj knows, but I know that before than he only said he hoped, then suddenly he said he believed it would happen.

Maybe things have changed and he no longer feels that way, he has been silent for a while. But he and other working with him have also stated that everyone involved is under heavy NDAs so who knows what might happen.

jasmine.uddin said:
Has something occurred to make you think this or are you counting on him doing the decent thing?

Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the above since you appear to have some knowledge of him.
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Again I can't say anything. But I would hope at the very least he might realize that the longer he remains silent, the larger the web of lies grows. It's not going to go away. And his lies have grown to harm his loved ones like his sister and his ex girlfriend who was still being harassed by Wade and James lawyers almost 10 years after they broke up. His sister has children now, and if he never tells the truth, 50 years from now when people are looking for answers about 1993, his nieces and nephews (or maybe his own children if he has some, I don't know if he does or not) are ones will be hunted down and questioned about what he did and what they heard about it. He could lift that burden off of them if he tells the truth.
 
dukenukem said:
Do you understand why saying, "I know everything, but I can't/won't share anything" is pretty pointless and only tends to turn people off?
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I explained why I can't tell.

dukenukem said:
If a now-45-year-old Jordan Chandler is consciously deferring the complete vindication of an innocent man, wouldn't he deserve to be called out or exposed?
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That's a good question. Of course he deserves it. But this isn't about him. It's about Michael. I want to see Michael vindicated more than I want revenge on Jordan. So even if theres a slight chance he might tell the truth, I don't want to mess that up. Does that make sense?

dukenukem said:
This could mean the difference between Robeson and Safechuck winning or losing their civil case, so I find it odd that you're being protective of someone whom you believe is obstructing justice.
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Well fortunately I and the others who know the info I know have common sense. Anything that would help with the trial has been given to the right people.
 
kelley said:
Well fortunately I and the others who know the info I know have common sense. Anything that would help with the trial has been given to the right people.
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Cool that you're excited and focused and really believe that, but I've been hearing about a complete vindication for MJ in regards to Jordan coming since the 2005 trial. And since then, nothing. Jordan had like 3 chances (during the trial, after his and his father’s death, when WR and JS started their bs) and he decided to hide and deflect. So... now all we got is the Cascios with their bs too, the estate doing anything to not mention the allegations in the musical and movie, and Taj doing a hit and run with people's money. I understand you but I'm not holding my breath.
 
many, included I, have noticed that they are not actually seeing the teaser trailer being attached to Wicked in theaters.

I wonder why. they still haven't made it clear what the promotion will be for this movie
 
Zizzistar said:
many, included I, have noticed that they are not actually seeing the teaser trailer being attached to Wicked in theaters.

I wonder why. they still haven't made it clear what the promotion will be for this movie
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I watched "Now you see me" last week and the trailer wasn't attached however... Went to see "Wicked" on Saturday and the trailer was there in all it's glory!! Small local cinema in the UK 😊
 
it makes me happy to see so much interest in the teaser trailer, the LEGO versione included. I pray that all the chaos the estate is involved with won't end up overshadowing the movie when it comes. September and october have been very heavy months with the attacks on the biopic and the cascios trying to be in the media - it would be naive to assume that we won't see more of this stuff as april approaches. I can only Imagine how exhausting It has to be for the cast
 
Zizzistar said:
it makes me happy to see so much interest in the teaser trailer, the LEGO versione included. I pray that all the chaos the estate is involved with won't end up overshadowing the movie when it comes. September and october have been very heavy months with the attacks on the biopic and the cascios trying to be in the media - it would be naive to assume that we won't see more of this stuff as april approaches. I can only Imagine how exhausting It has to be for the cast
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For me the main question is what will be the final scene of the movie? Will it give a glimpse of what was going on later in Michael's life? Or will it be a predictable climax of his career (according to the writers) - Superbowl 1993 like Live Aid was for Bohemian Rhapsody ?
 
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t1mber said:
For me the main question is what will be the final scene of the movie? Will it give a glimpse of what was going on later in Michael's life? Or will it be a predictable climax of his career (according to the writers) - Superbowl 1993 like Live Aid was for Bohemian Rhapsody ?
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I don't think anything pointing to eras after Bad, because then they really would have to make a second movie...but in this case, they also can't end it with a cliffhanger. On the other hand, exactly this would be the best thing to do if it's certain there will be a second movie. Good question 🧐.
 
dukenukem said:
Do you understand why saying, "I know everything, but I can't/won't share anything" is pretty pointless and only tends to turn people off? If a now-45-year-old Jordan Chandler is consciously deferring the complete vindication of an innocent man, wouldn't he deserve to be called out or exposed? This could mean the difference between Robeson and Safechuck winning or losing their civil case, so I find it odd that you're being protective of someone whom you believe is obstructing justice.
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Not everything can be shared. I am also aware of similar information regarding Jordan's current happenings.

Denise Pfeifer in 1993 tells you why certain things can't be widely shared.
 
t1mber said:
For me the main question is what will be the final scene of the movie? Will it give a glimpse of what was going on later in Michael's life? Or will it be a predictable climax of his career (according to the writers) - Superbowl 1993 like Live Aid was for Bohemian Rhapsody ?
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If there's going to be a 2nd part, there might be some teaser/premonition showing flash-forwards featuring the highlights(and lowlights) of his later years. This might be interspersed with a 'Man in the Mirror' performance from the final show of the Bad Tour, Grammys '88, or the last show of the Dangerous Tour immediately before the allegations hit...cliffhanger-style.
In fact, the final scene might be the backstage of the DWT when MJ first learned of the allegations. The very last lines might be something to the effect of, "Sir, there's something quite alarming that you need to be aware of," to which MJ might reply, "Can't it wait?" only to be met with a very flat, solemn, "No." *Dramatic zoom out as we see Michael's entourage speaking to him, but we can't make out the words...as Michael appears more and more visibly distressed, eventually clutching his chest and then slowly collapsing to the floor* *Soft fade to credits while a song such as 'Music & Me' begins to play.*

Just my .02.
 
dam2040 said:
Not everything can be shared. I am also aware of similar information regarding Jordan's current happenings.

Denise Pfeifer in 1993 tells you why certain things can't be widely shared.
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If it can't be shared, then there's no point in even mentioning it; it becomes completely meaningless. Anyone can claim to have insider information - and even if we could somehow assess credibility, it would still serve zero purpose if we aren't privy to the substance.

I don't know who Denise Pfeifer is...but if I'm to believe what I'm being told, some information must've leaked somewhere at some point in time - unless those who claim to have this exclusive scoop are directly involved with the case(and in that event, what they've said so far would constitute a massive no-no). Unless it's a cut-and-dry breach of someone's privacy(i.e., doxing in the legal sense), there's everything to be gained from full disclosure.

If some rabid fans act like jackasses and harass Jordan, that's not going to reflect poorly on Michael(unless he were directing them to do so from beyond). However it could clear up some misconceptions when it comes to the facts of the case, and bring a sense of much-needed transparency. So please enlighten me here in 2025 instead of referring me to what someone stated more three decades ago.

They want us to stop discussing this here, so either send me a link about why sharing potentially vindicating info would in fact prove to be a liability...or let's just drop this subject altogether.
 
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dukenukem said:
If it can't be shared, then there's no point in even mentioning it; it becomes completely meaningless. Anyone can claim to have insider information - and even if we could somehow assess credibility, it would still serve zero purpose if we aren't privy to the substance.
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Usually when I post about Jordan it's to correct the many myths and out dated info that fans still spread about him, like that he changed his name(not true), has a new identity (not true), moved oversees (never happened), doesn't speak to his mother (hasn't been true for almost 20 years now), ect. Then other people try to combat me and say Im wrong. and then I end up having to mention that I know things about him because otherwise they don't believe me and continue to repeat the false information.

And the reason I like to correct the false information is because a lot of it was spread by Michael's enemies. And that has helped them push a lot of false narratives and distract from information that provides proper context. For example: Ray Chandler and Sneddon and prosecutors are the one who said he fled to europe during the trial. It's not true. He was photographed skiing here in America by the paparazzi during the trial. And I've heard whispers that he called the paps himself, but can't confirm that. They knew he hadn't left the country. They only said that explain why they refused to subpoena him. And also because they want to make it look like he's in danger from the fans.

But because Fans believe and continue to parrot that info, no one ever stopped to question the REAL reason why sneddon never subpoena him to testify. He could have. Why did he and Jordan's uncle go out of their way to lie and say he fled the country?

dukenukem said:
I don't know who Denise Pfeifer is...but if I'm to believe what I'm being told, some information must've leaked somewhere at some point in time - unless those who claim to have this exclusive scoop are directly involved with the case(and in that event, what they've said so far would constitute a massive no-no). Unless it's a cut-and-dry breach of someone's privacy(i.e., doxing in the legal sense), there's everything to be gained from full disclosure.

If some rabid fans act like jackasses and harass Jordan, that's not going to reflect poorly on Michael(unless he were directing them to do so from beyond). However it could clear up some misconceptions when it comes to the facts of the case, and bring a sense of much-needed transparency. So please enlighten me here in 2025 instead of referring me to what someone stated more three decades ago.

They want us to stop discussing this here, so either send me a link about why sharing potentially vindicating info would in fact prove to be a liability...or let's just drop this subject altogether.
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It's a liability because if we had released stuff we have 2 years ago, we would not some of the info we have now. Ever hear the expression "don't jump the gun"? Sometimes it's better to wait, observe, and keep your mouth shut.
 
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