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YRMW at MSG

Little bit disappointed. Twice as long as the tweet I posted but way less than I was hoping for. I was hoping for 2 mins, maybe 3.

Oh well. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I'm happy enough, I guess, and Michael looked fine. Very loose and relaxed with his movements.
 
filmandmusic said:
The entire concert was disappointing, why single out YRMW, it was just a mediocre ending to a mediocre night. Oh well at least he did sing a bit here and there for a change.
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This. The MSG performances were average at best. I suppose they'd be considered good in hindsight because of nostalgia, but I'd rather those performances not exist at all, especially YRMW.
 
mj_frenzy said:
It did not have to do with anxiety on his part.

Besides, he was asked if he was nervous about his performance (by reporters on the red carpet), and he answered in the negative.

Michael Jackson took Demerol (and some other substances) just few hours before going to the MSG venue, which made him look so disoriented there.

It is not an exaggeration to say that Michael Jackson (from the early 2000s onwards) looked like a parody of his former self.
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How do you know? People always seem to have a surprising amount of inside knowledge. Where do you even get that...

Edit: not saying you are wrong btw. I agree he was sedated with some powerful drugs. Just curious.
 
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mj_frenzy said:
It did not have to do with anxiety on his part.

Besides, he was asked if he was nervous about his performance (by reporters on the red carpet), and he answered in the negative.

Michael Jackson took Demerol (and some other substances) just few hours before going to the MSG venue, which made him look so disoriented there.

It is not an exaggeration to say that Michael Jackson (from the early 2000s onwards) looked like a parody of his former self.
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I think he also did a botox procedure on his upper lip, why he was hiding his mouth while singing. I'm not sure if he had that already during the rehearsals so maybe it were also sedatives from that procedures..? He was far out, that's for sure
 
Victorious said:
I think he also did a botox procedure on his upper lip, why he was hiding his mouth while singing. I'm not sure if he had that already during the rehearsals so maybe it were also sedatives from that procedures..? He was far out, that's for sure
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I think he was holding his mouth because he didn't remember the lyrics. He did the same thing with jam in Oslo 92.
 
wonderouzmj said:
I think he was holding his mouth because he didn't remember the lyrics. He did the same thing with jam in Oslo 92.
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Really, really wish he would of got himself clean, and just gave us a show of him and a microphone, it's almost like he didn't have the confidence he was so obsessed with production and thinking that's what fans wanted all the time, I never tried to get tickets for tii I kinda of new it wouldn't happen, he needed to give us something different think he underestimated how much us fans would have supported him, he had nothing to prove regarding his talent there won't be another quite like him makes so sad
 
Oldtimer said:
Really, really wish he would of got himself clean, and just gave us a show of him and a microphone, it's almost like he didn't have the confidence he was so obsessed with production and thinking that's what fans wanted all the time, I never tried to get tickets for tii I kinda of new it wouldn't happen, he needed to give us something different think he underestimated how much us fans would have supported him, he had nothing to prove regarding his talent there won't be another quite like him makes so sad
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Yes. Absolutely. I totally agree
 
zinniabooklover said:
Yeah, that outfit was fine! :)
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It just screams Michael to me somehow. The clothes, the long hair, the glasses, etc. It all felt like MJ from the 90s. It’s a shame we didn’t get that MJ for the live shows. What do you think? :)

Btw, NSYNC sounded so out of tune on that clip it almost hurt my ears.
 
Themidwestcowboy said:
It just screams Michael to me somehow. The clothes, the long hair, the glasses, etc. It all felt like MJ from the 90s.
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It's not really a nostalgia thing for me. There are very few of Michael's outfits that I'm lukewarm about but the white MSG outfit is one of them. I love the fact that Michael was always reinventing his look - he doesn't get enough credit for that, imo - but that MSG outfit doesn't quite work for me. And I've always loved him in black so that probably has a lot to do with it. :D
 
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Oldtimer said:
Really, really wish he would of got himself clean, and just gave us a show of him and a microphone, it's almost like he didn't have the confidence he was so obsessed with production and thinking that's what fans wanted all the time, I never tried to get tickets for tii I kinda of new it wouldn't happen, he needed to give us something different think he underestimated how much us fans would have supported him, he had nothing to prove regarding his talent there won't be another quite like him makes so sad
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It’s what the HBO one night special at the beacon theatre was supposed to be (at least closer than anything else)
 
zinniabooklover said:
It's not really a nostalgia thing for me. There are very few of Michael's outfits that I'm lukewarm about but the white MSG outfit is one of them. I love the fact that Michael was always reinventing his look - he doesn't get enough credit for that, imo - but that MSG outfit doesn't quite work for me. And I've always loved him in black so that probably has a lot to do with it. :D
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I loved the black jacket for Beat it and YRMW though!
 
PixieJ said:
How do you know? People always seem to have a surprising amount of inside knowledge. Where do you even get that...

Edit: not saying you are wrong btw. I agree he was sedated with some powerful drugs. Just curious.
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It was also confirmed by David Gest, and also by Jermaine Jackson, that Michael Jackson was on drugs (mainly, Demerol) during these 2 MSG shows.
Victorious said:
I think he also did a botox procedure on his upper lip, why he was hiding his mouth while singing. I'm not sure if he had that already during the rehearsals so maybe it were also sedatives from that procedures..? He was far out, that's for sure
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During that period, Michael Jackson apparently did a botox procedure on his upper lip.

This seems to explain why he also had difficulty in speaking properly, in smiling properly, and in eating properly, as shown for example during the Virgin Megastore Signing event and during his appearance at the NASDAQ stock exchange.
 
mj_frenzy said:
It was also confirmed by David Gest, and also by Jermaine Jackson, that Michael Jackson was on drugs (mainly, Demerol) during these 2 MSG shows.

During that period, Michael Jackson apparently did a botox procedure on his upper lip.

This seems to explain why he also had difficulty in speaking properly, in smiling properly, and in eating properly, as shown for example during the Virgin Megastore Signing event and during his appearance at the NASDAQ stock exchange.
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It was also in Frank Cascio’s book. Despite their involvement in the fake tracks, I read the book and found it credible.
 
Ppl here saying MJ was far from his best are right and there’s no use arguing about it, but his worst is better than anyone’s best and nobody who left MSG those nights felt cheated.
I had to drop off my two cents on this totally un- based lie that is circulating in this forum for too long regarding MJs numb upper lip. Not that I care if he had Botox injected, but it is very unlikely for him to try out experimental procedures. When rhinoplasty just started taking over Hollywood, He had his sister Latoya get it before him, because he wanted to see if its worthwhile. Botox was not yet approved for cosmetics in 2001 and it was already established on the old KOP forum that ANTIDEPRESSANTS can cause upper lip numbness.
 
mjmagicfan said:
Botox was not yet approved for cosmetics in 2001 and it was already established on the old KOP forum that ANTIDEPRESSANTS can cause upper lip numbness.
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lol, this is not about 'numbness', it's definitely botox. And it narrowed the shape of his mouth and changed his pronunciation
 
Victorious said:
lol, this is not about 'numbness', it's definitely botox. And it narrowed the shape of his mouth and changed his pronunciation
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You can laugh out loud but the joke is on you for being pretentious. You have zero proof for this claim and please don’t start posting pictures and circling it lol honestly, isn’t the whole point of Botox is looking better? Why would he choose to narrow his lips and change his pronunciation. can you explain? You can try, but it will still all be speculation. Besides, he had that condition for a good few months and then what? He didn’t like the Botox no more? if you knew anything about Botox is that it’s almost impossible to quit it without distortion of the subcutaneous tissue.
 
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mjmagicfan said:
Why would he choose to narrow his lips and change his pronunciation. can you explain?
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He probably didn't want those as side effects no.. But I do think he didn't want to look older and used fillers to hide some wrinkles on his upper lip, and yes botox will wear out after some months
 
Victorious said:
He probably didn't want those as side effects no.. But I do think he didn't want to look older and used fillers to hide some wrinkles on his upper lip, and yes botox will wear out after some months
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so if it wear out where are his wrinkles in 2004? You know how ridiculous this is?

please decide which is it, “probably” and “I do think” or ״definitely used”?

I don’t know how someone like you is able to move limbs.
 
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