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Let's end the confusion about MJ's unreleased tracks here

ChanceToDance said:
Man this snippet takes me back, I remember listening to it a lot right before the world went to shit because of Covid. Can't believe it's been more than 4 years already.

But anyway- Honestly I'm glad that the song didn't end up leaking in 2020, I'm not really a fan of the song but it was still nice to have it as a surprise for T40. Made the fact that 50% of the disc was re-releases hurt less.
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It would be great to have it now.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Man this snippet takes me back, I remember listening to it a lot right before the world went to shit because of Covid. Can't believe it's been more than 4 years already.

But anyway- Honestly I'm glad that the song didn't end up leaking in 2020, I'm not really a fan of the song but it was still nice to have it as a surprise for T40. Made the fact that 50% of the disc was re-releases hurt less.
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When the seller first sent it to me I nearly had a heart attack. I was in possession of genuine MJ unreleased material - even if it was only 8 seconds or whatever. I had to put it straight on YouTube after verifying with a few people.

My first proper insight into the MJ unreleased underworld. So many morons coming after me, saying it was fake, lyrics made no sense.. then Thriller 40 dropped and.. crickets. Lol
 
BlackAnon said:
Production sounds cool but I agree with Ronson when he said there was nothing he could do with it. The song has no real lyrics...it was a waste of production.
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I agree. I wonder why the Estate chose to give him this specific song, it’s always seemed like a weird choice to me.
 
I wonder if the estate at some point thought they didn't have much else to use. Only reason I can think they'd even consider that song when there's so much better stuff there (at the time)
 
There was no rhyme or reason for the tracklisting of the Michael album, it was as jumbled and confused as can be. Maybe that or they figured they'd be making an album a year and might as well start preparing now. They reworked Love Never Felt So Good that same year, and it did eventually get put on a record, Xscape.

WALWTG also did, just untouched. The song is underrated to me though. Compositionally, it's actually stronger than many of MJs tunes, with the intense vocal ideas and the really long and extravagant bridge. It just needed to be fleshed out lyrically.
 
MJbr2 said:
Don't forget about DYKWYCA and STTR.
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I am not forgetting them, I'm ignoring them. I'm not counting the stuff they reworked, two times over. Otherwise, She Was Lovin' Me 2010 also exists. And possibly a Blue Gangsta version by Freeze.

The version of LNFSG that was produced for Michael, explicitly, ended up on Xscape. Not just the song in general.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
And possibly a Blue Gangsta version by Freeze.
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The "original" Blue Gangsta is a mix of Dr. Freezes and Michaels vocals. There are fourteen different mixes including the two versions you know and the reworked one. What's unique about those: The stems are fully digitally available. My favorite is "Blue Gangsta Rough Mix #2".
 
MJbr2 said:
Out of curiosity, is there still a way to get Mark's reworked version? I believe its price dropped dramatically after T40 lol
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No idea. The place I was trying to get it from shut down. I know for definite another collector was in for it because I was speaking to them. Not sure if they got it
 
firmware-god said:
The "original" Blue Gangsta is a mix of Dr. Freezes and Michaels vocals. There are fourteen different mixes including the two versions you know and the reworked one. What's unique about those: The stems are fully digitally available. My favorite is "Blue Gangsta Rough Mix #2".
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What do you mean?
 
NeoGardiV8 said:
What do you mean?
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Invincible sessions were the first sessions that were mixed and worked on in Pro Tools.

That's the reason you don't find Invincible stuff anywhere. Same for HIStory concerts.
Michael Prince is hoarding all that. I've seen pictures. He has tons and tons of hard drives containing the original sessions.

You should see the labeling on Rodney Jerkins stems. I'll give you an example: For "You Rock My World" there is a stem called "rodney drums 4" or "darkchild intro".

Reels were only used for long term storage at this point.
DATs were still used as show cases.

It's very rare to come along those session files. Yet they are not for release any time soon.

What's most interesting to me is the way Michaels music and the way he worked has changed with digital media.
"Whatever Happens" has some interesting easter eggs. You can hear them, if you listen closely.
 
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firmware-god said:
The "original" Blue Gangsta is a mix of Dr. Freezes and Michaels vocals. There are fourteen different mixes including the two versions you know and the reworked one. What's unique about those: The stems are fully digitally available. My favorite is "Blue Gangsta Rough Mix #2".
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All versions of Blue Gangsta are a mix of Dr. Freeze and MJ vocals, so I’m not sure what you mean.
 
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